Comments on: The Left’s Selective Outrage – by Bruce Thornton http://frontpagemag.com/2009/10/05/the-left%e2%80%99s-selective-outrage-%e2%80%93-by-bruce-thornton/ Fri, 12 Mar 2010 16:10:35 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: bubba4 http://frontpagemag.com/2009/10/05/the-left%e2%80%99s-selective-outrage-%e2%80%93-by-bruce-thornton/comment-page-1/#comment-1230 bubba4 Thu, 08 Oct 2009 23:54:04 +0000 http://frontpagemag.com/?p=24625#comment-1230 You can't keep track of what you are arguing and you don't take responsibility for points you tried to make previously.<br><br>I'll let you go back and read how and why the Supreme Court case is even in our conversation...because now you are arguing the point they are going to argue before the supreme court like I wrote the Chicago law and am fighting for it. You don't even remember under what context you brought it up to begin with.<br><br>And I'll say this again because you are too stupid it seems to absorb it. When someone commits murder THEY ARE RESPONSIBLE...OK? If someone on TV has been stoking the fire and encouraging it....the murder is still responsible for his murder...OK? We were past that many posts ago. No matter what I say, you turn the argument into "who's responsible". No one is arguing against personal responsibility, it's just you don't want to consider any other factors...you don't want to admit that people like Beck and Limbaugh have any effect on anyone. Fine.<br><br>The world may be black and white but that's because your old and apparently a little senile. Have fun wallowing in your fear of the future...and telling everyone they're commies. I'm about out of patience with you. You can't keep track of what you are arguing and you don't take responsibility for points you tried to make previously.

I'll let you go back and read how and why the Supreme Court case is even in our conversation…because now you are arguing the point they are going to argue before the supreme court like I wrote the Chicago law and am fighting for it. You don't even remember under what context you brought it up to begin with.

And I'll say this again because you are too stupid it seems to absorb it. When someone commits murder THEY ARE RESPONSIBLE…OK? If someone on TV has been stoking the fire and encouraging it….the murder is still responsible for his murder…OK? We were past that many posts ago. No matter what I say, you turn the argument into “who's responsible”. No one is arguing against personal responsibility, it's just you don't want to consider any other factors…you don't want to admit that people like Beck and Limbaugh have any effect on anyone. Fine.

The world may be black and white but that's because your old and apparently a little senile. Have fun wallowing in your fear of the future…and telling everyone they're commies. I'm about out of patience with you.

]]> By: celtnik http://frontpagemag.com/2009/10/05/the-left%e2%80%99s-selective-outrage-%e2%80%93-by-bruce-thornton/comment-page-1/#comment-1196 celtnik Thu, 08 Oct 2009 18:08:50 +0000 http://frontpagemag.com/?p=24625#comment-1196 Government is the only entity capable of creating stimulus in a recession, really, that is the most economically illiterate statement I have ever heard. The last two recessions we had were reversed due to tax cuts. Do you understand the concept of money? Money is a tool of exchange and is only useful if there are goods and services being produced to back it; the government printing money and giving it to people who have produced nothing doesn’t stimulate anything, all it does is create inflation. As I said before, Government produces nothing, and the economy isn’t moving; nobody is buying or investing in anything, especially jobs, and retail sales are falling. <br>“Riiiiight...except the government didn't "takeover" the companies. I don't think you really understand the economy of cars and the extensive web of contractors and vendors that support our bloated and abnormal industry”<br><br>Why don’t you explain it to me? I don’t understand the economy of cars? I understand that we are paying to keep a company afloat that is producing cars that nobody wants, unless “government” i.e. the taxpayers are going to subsidize part of it. What did I just tell you moron, there was a false demand created by a government subsidy an now all the excess cars are just sitting on lots with nobody wanting to buy them. GM is broke, they are only running on the money of the taxpayer, we are subsidizing their manufacturing and the inflated wages and benefits of union employees. Furthermore, the unconstitutionality of the gun law registration requirements is something Obama and the democrats support, they have for years. How are you chipping away at my assertions when the Supreme Court is taking up the case? Obama repeatedly stated that he approved of the D.C. gun ban when it was in force; AG Eric Holder signed an amicus brief in the Heller case that supported the dc handgun band and has publicly asserted that he doesn’t think the 2nd amendment protects your right to own a handgun<br>“You like running back to the idea of individual responsibility. Everything has to be black and white with you doesn't it....you just can't let things stray into the complexity of reality.”<br>Of course I believe in personal responsibility, that is what the civil society is based on. How can any idiot argue against personal responsibility? You don’t know the first thing about reality, most things are black and white pal, this nuanced, complexity of reality argument is just a stalking horse for lazy thinking dolts like you who want more government intervention in the lives of productive citizens who can take care of themselves. You really resent that don’t you? Government is the only entity capable of creating stimulus in a recession, really, that is the most economically illiterate statement I have ever heard. The last two recessions we had were reversed due to tax cuts. Do you understand the concept of money? Money is a tool of exchange and is only useful if there are goods and services being produced to back it; the government printing money and giving it to people who have produced nothing doesn’t stimulate anything, all it does is create inflation. As I said before, Government produces nothing, and the economy isn’t moving; nobody is buying or investing in anything, especially jobs, and retail sales are falling.
“Riiiiight…except the government didn't “takeover” the companies. I don't think you really understand the economy of cars and the extensive web of contractors and vendors that support our bloated and abnormal industry”

Why don’t you explain it to me? I don’t understand the economy of cars? I understand that we are paying to keep a company afloat that is producing cars that nobody wants, unless “government” i.e. the taxpayers are going to subsidize part of it. What did I just tell you moron, there was a false demand created by a government subsidy an now all the excess cars are just sitting on lots with nobody wanting to buy them. GM is broke, they are only running on the money of the taxpayer, we are subsidizing their manufacturing and the inflated wages and benefits of union employees. Furthermore, the unconstitutionality of the gun law registration requirements is something Obama and the democrats support, they have for years. How are you chipping away at my assertions when the Supreme Court is taking up the case? Obama repeatedly stated that he approved of the D.C. gun ban when it was in force; AG Eric Holder signed an amicus brief in the Heller case that supported the dc handgun band and has publicly asserted that he doesn’t think the 2nd amendment protects your right to own a handgun
“You like running back to the idea of individual responsibility. Everything has to be black and white with you doesn't it….you just can't let things stray into the complexity of reality.”
Of course I believe in personal responsibility, that is what the civil society is based on. How can any idiot argue against personal responsibility? You don’t know the first thing about reality, most things are black and white pal, this nuanced, complexity of reality argument is just a stalking horse for lazy thinking dolts like you who want more government intervention in the lives of productive citizens who can take care of themselves. You really resent that don’t you?

]]> By: bubba4 http://frontpagemag.com/2009/10/05/the-left%e2%80%99s-selective-outrage-%e2%80%93-by-bruce-thornton/comment-page-1/#comment-1195 bubba4 Thu, 08 Oct 2009 17:01:51 +0000 http://frontpagemag.com/?p=24625#comment-1195 "I understand the process of stimulus better than you do"<br><br>Government is the only entity capable of creating stimulus in a weak economy. Economy is about dynamics, and injections of money (even if it's borrowed) keep the economy moving so we don't go off the deep end and can adjust things so we have a future.<br><br>Since a majority of pollution (from cars) is caused by a small minority of older vehicles (ones that are working you see...not on your front lawn on bricks) so it had a two fold purpose...remove the older cars while the creating a boost is sales to reduce inventory. Your problem is you haven't given these things much thought and you rely on FPM (and I can guess who else) to instruct how you think/feel about things.<br><br>"That's okay, we're all stakeholders in GM now, but not really, you see the first piece of property Obama seized was two car companies along with a bank."<br><br>Riiiiight...except the government didn't "takeover" the companies. I don't think you really understand the economy of cars and the extensive web of contractors and vendors that support our bloated and abnormal industry. You can disagree that we should have saved the car companies...but you aren't doing that...you're trying to mischaracterize the program(s) for the purpose of false outrage or something. <br><br>Look at you dumbass...they have managed to teach you that government regulation caused the economic crisis...holy smokes...welcome to bizarro world...where no one can learn their lessons because they just choose to believe something else.<br><br>You brought up the McDonald case as Obama seizing guns or at least something scary coming in the future. You can't follow these thoughts from one post to the next can you. It's all a weird blur. I can chip away at your stupid assertions and you will just plow forward.<br><br>"oh you're still trying to blame Fox news for the Murder of Dr. Tiller, which means you still believe the whacked out notion that people are just helpless fools unable to make choices for themselves and that behavior is the consequence of environmental factors outside their control."<br><br>I wasn't trying to blame them...as we established it would be difficult to prove in any legal sense..remember...that was in the last post. But Tiller was an example towards the other point about how hate and fear in the "media" suchs as Fox, FPM, Newsmax and others. You like running back to the idea of individual responsibility. Everything has to be black and white with you doesn't it....you just can't let things stray into the complexity of reality. “I understand the process of stimulus better than you do”

Government is the only entity capable of creating stimulus in a weak economy. Economy is about dynamics, and injections of money (even if it's borrowed) keep the economy moving so we don't go off the deep end and can adjust things so we have a future.

Since a majority of pollution (from cars) is caused by a small minority of older vehicles (ones that are working you see…not on your front lawn on bricks) so it had a two fold purpose…remove the older cars while the creating a boost is sales to reduce inventory. Your problem is you haven't given these things much thought and you rely on FPM (and I can guess who else) to instruct how you think/feel about things.

“That's okay, we're all stakeholders in GM now, but not really, you see the first piece of property Obama seized was two car companies along with a bank.”

Riiiiight…except the government didn't “takeover” the companies. I don't think you really understand the economy of cars and the extensive web of contractors and vendors that support our bloated and abnormal industry. You can disagree that we should have saved the car companies…but you aren't doing that…you're trying to mischaracterize the program(s) for the purpose of false outrage or something.

Look at you dumbass…they have managed to teach you that government regulation caused the economic crisis…holy smokes…welcome to bizarro world…where no one can learn their lessons because they just choose to believe something else.

You brought up the McDonald case as Obama seizing guns or at least something scary coming in the future. You can't follow these thoughts from one post to the next can you. It's all a weird blur. I can chip away at your stupid assertions and you will just plow forward.

“oh you're still trying to blame Fox news for the Murder of Dr. Tiller, which means you still believe the whacked out notion that people are just helpless fools unable to make choices for themselves and that behavior is the consequence of environmental factors outside their control.”

I wasn't trying to blame them…as we established it would be difficult to prove in any legal sense..remember…that was in the last post. But Tiller was an example towards the other point about how hate and fear in the “media” suchs as Fox, FPM, Newsmax and others. You like running back to the idea of individual responsibility. Everything has to be black and white with you doesn't it….you just can't let things stray into the complexity of reality.

]]> By: celtnik http://frontpagemag.com/2009/10/05/the-left%e2%80%99s-selective-outrage-%e2%80%93-by-bruce-thornton/comment-page-1/#comment-1185 celtnik Thu, 08 Oct 2009 16:01:32 +0000 http://frontpagemag.com/?p=24625#comment-1185 I understand the process of stimulus better than you do, government doesn't create stimulus, or jobs or demand or supply. Government doesn't have anything until it takes it from us, now they created a false demand for cars because they were handing out someone else’s money, then when the fund went bust all those automobiles made to meet the false demand are now just sitting around with no one willing to purchase them. Oh, the taxpayers are out another 2 billion or so, while destroying perfectly good cars in the process. That's okay, we're all stakeholders in GM now, but not really, you see the first piece of property Obama seized was two car companies along with a bank. Don't forget the VAT tax being considered to pay for the government takeover of health care either, which is essentially a takeover of you. The way you stimulate the economy is you let the people who actually produce things keep more of their money; of course this argument is probably lost on someone like you who doesn't understand basic economics. The reason we went off a cliff is because of too many government mandates telling lenders who they could lend to, usually people who couldn't pay the borrowed money back. And unemployment just hit a 26 year high and it's still going. The McDonald case challenges the banning of the registration of handguns, and requiring the handguns be registered prior to purchase, which essentially makes handguns illegal, which is unconstitutional. The case is also trying to overrule the unconstitutional theory of selective incorporation. Let's see, what else, oh you're still trying to blame Fox news for the Murder of Dr. Tiller, which means you still believe the whacked out notion that people are just helpless fools unable to make choices for themselves and that behavior is the consequence of environmental factors outside their control. And czars are unconstitutional, they don't represent departments, department heads are confirmed by the senate; Van Jones, John Holdren and the rest of the appointed Politburo haven't. I understand the process of stimulus better than you do, government doesn't create stimulus, or jobs or demand or supply. Government doesn't have anything until it takes it from us, now they created a false demand for cars because they were handing out someone else’s money, then when the fund went bust all those automobiles made to meet the false demand are now just sitting around with no one willing to purchase them. Oh, the taxpayers are out another 2 billion or so, while destroying perfectly good cars in the process. That's okay, we're all stakeholders in GM now, but not really, you see the first piece of property Obama seized was two car companies along with a bank. Don't forget the VAT tax being considered to pay for the government takeover of health care either, which is essentially a takeover of you. The way you stimulate the economy is you let the people who actually produce things keep more of their money; of course this argument is probably lost on someone like you who doesn't understand basic economics. The reason we went off a cliff is because of too many government mandates telling lenders who they could lend to, usually people who couldn't pay the borrowed money back. And unemployment just hit a 26 year high and it's still going. The McDonald case challenges the banning of the registration of handguns, and requiring the handguns be registered prior to purchase, which essentially makes handguns illegal, which is unconstitutional. The case is also trying to overrule the unconstitutional theory of selective incorporation. Let's see, what else, oh you're still trying to blame Fox news for the Murder of Dr. Tiller, which means you still believe the whacked out notion that people are just helpless fools unable to make choices for themselves and that behavior is the consequence of environmental factors outside their control. And czars are unconstitutional, they don't represent departments, department heads are confirmed by the senate; Van Jones, John Holdren and the rest of the appointed Politburo haven't.

]]> By: bubba4 http://frontpagemag.com/2009/10/05/the-left%e2%80%99s-selective-outrage-%e2%80%93-by-bruce-thornton/comment-page-1/#comment-1153 bubba4 Thu, 08 Oct 2009 05:02:55 +0000 http://frontpagemag.com/?p=24625#comment-1153 "One person, does not a patter make, referring the Dr. Tiller's murderer."<br><br>No it doesn't. Good thing that wasn't the point I was making. The murder of this man is an example of Oreily, Beck and others not directly telling people to kill murder someone, but giving a small block of crazies all the ideas they need. If you believe in what they say...it is inevitable.<br><br>"What about John Malvo, Muslim extremist or the guy that killed the guard at the Holocaust museum, an avowed socialist, as was Lee Harvey Oswald. Don't forget the Unibomber was a rabid Al Gore fan. Can you prove "rhetoric" causes behavior?"<br><br>No, I don't think even when it's obvious it could be "proven" in a legal sense...but lets take Tiller for instance. His murderer wouldn't have known of his existence, much less have been told that Tiller was a monster who would murder any baby for $5000 and asking questions like "when will we put to stop to this?" There is ample video I'm sure if you google it.<br><br>No health care legislation has been passed. Your taxes have not gone up. No property has been seized. No guns have been taken away. So everything you listed as possibly driving someone over the edge (besides Beck telling them the sky is falling and communists are polluting our precious bodily fluids)...all your examples are bullshit.<br><br>All you have are vague fears about the future. If you don't understand what Cash for Clunkers was designed to do...I can't help you. Do you even understand the concept of stimulus. I swear most of you forgot that we almost went off a cliff a year ago.<br><br>"Oh, the Supreme Court will soon be taking up a case regarding whether or not the 2nd amendment will also apply to the states. As if it isn't already specifically listed in the Constitution as a right pertaining to all citizens, but since some leftist legislature is rightly scared of an armed citizenry it somehow now needs to be ruled on."<br><br>Sigh. This is a challenge FOR the 2nd Amendment against a 27 year old law taxing handguns in the city of Chicago. For crying out loud...you don't even know what your own examples mean. You're too busy blaming your irrational fears on "lefty".<br><br> "Climate of Fear", can you idiots post one comment with out those tired, old Hackneyed lefty talking points."<br><br>Um...ok...um...let's see...how about "Environment of Dread"...or "Atmosphere of Paranoia"...or maybe "Bizarro World of Violent Irrationality" it's not a talking point dumbass...it was a description. <br><br>"Bush only had 26 czars"..."Obama's got a lot more. That's not the point"<br><br>You're right...the point was you were saying they were unconstituitional or some such nonsense...I said it was an ordinary part of modern government....and all the recent Presidents had them. I await your non-sequitor response. “One person, does not a patter make, referring the Dr. Tiller's murderer.”

No it doesn't. Good thing that wasn't the point I was making. The murder of this man is an example of Oreily, Beck and others not directly telling people to kill murder someone, but giving a small block of crazies all the ideas they need. If you believe in what they say…it is inevitable.

“What about John Malvo, Muslim extremist or the guy that killed the guard at the Holocaust museum, an avowed socialist, as was Lee Harvey Oswald. Don't forget the Unibomber was a rabid Al Gore fan. Can you prove “rhetoric” causes behavior?”

No, I don't think even when it's obvious it could be “proven” in a legal sense…but lets take Tiller for instance. His murderer wouldn't have known of his existence, much less have been told that Tiller was a monster who would murder any baby for $5000 and asking questions like “when will we put to stop to this?” There is ample video I'm sure if you google it.

No health care legislation has been passed. Your taxes have not gone up. No property has been seized. No guns have been taken away. So everything you listed as possibly driving someone over the edge (besides Beck telling them the sky is falling and communists are polluting our precious bodily fluids)…all your examples are bullshit.

All you have are vague fears about the future. If you don't understand what Cash for Clunkers was designed to do…I can't help you. Do you even understand the concept of stimulus. I swear most of you forgot that we almost went off a cliff a year ago.

“Oh, the Supreme Court will soon be taking up a case regarding whether or not the 2nd amendment will also apply to the states. As if it isn't already specifically listed in the Constitution as a right pertaining to all citizens, but since some leftist legislature is rightly scared of an armed citizenry it somehow now needs to be ruled on.”

Sigh. This is a challenge FOR the 2nd Amendment against a 27 year old law taxing handguns in the city of Chicago. For crying out loud…you don't even know what your own examples mean. You're too busy blaming your irrational fears on “lefty”.

“Climate of Fear”, can you idiots post one comment with out those tired, old Hackneyed lefty talking points.”

Um…ok…um…let's see…how about “Environment of Dread”…or “Atmosphere of Paranoia”…or maybe “Bizarro World of Violent Irrationality” it's not a talking point dumbass…it was a description.

“Bush only had 26 czars”…”Obama's got a lot more. That's not the point”

You're right…the point was you were saying they were unconstituitional or some such nonsense…I said it was an ordinary part of modern government….and all the recent Presidents had them. I await your non-sequitor response.

]]> By: bubba4 http://frontpagemag.com/2009/10/05/the-left%e2%80%99s-selective-outrage-%e2%80%93-by-bruce-thornton/comment-page-1/#comment-1148 bubba4 Thu, 08 Oct 2009 04:36:49 +0000 http://frontpagemag.com/?p=24625#comment-1148 Now your using it on me. You're like an out of control garden hose. Now your using it on me. You're like an out of control garden hose.

]]> By: celtnik http://frontpagemag.com/2009/10/05/the-left%e2%80%99s-selective-outrage-%e2%80%93-by-bruce-thornton/comment-page-1/#comment-1110 celtnik Wed, 07 Oct 2009 15:45:51 +0000 http://frontpagemag.com/?p=24625#comment-1110 I know what tricky said, and I told him he was full of it; I don't care what he buys into, he's a moron. Did you read my post? Idiots like you go around apologizing for the worst political system in history, which is nothing more that organized crime with an army, and has been responsible for more than 100 million deaths. Who is dense and stupid, useful idiot. I know what tricky said, and I told him he was full of it; I don't care what he buys into, he's a moron. Did you read my post? Idiots like you go around apologizing for the worst political system in history, which is nothing more that organized crime with an army, and has been responsible for more than 100 million deaths. Who is dense and stupid, useful idiot.

]]> By: celtnik http://frontpagemag.com/2009/10/05/the-left%e2%80%99s-selective-outrage-%e2%80%93-by-bruce-thornton/comment-page-1/#comment-1108 celtnik Wed, 07 Oct 2009 15:41:44 +0000 http://frontpagemag.com/?p=24625#comment-1108 One person, does not a patter make, referring the Dr. Tiller's murderer. What about John Malvo, Muslim extremist or the guy that killed the guard at the Holocaust museum, an avowed socialist, as was Lee Harvey Oswald. Don't forget the Unibomber was a rabid Al Gore fan. Can you prove "rhetoric" causes behavior? <br><br>Furthermore, there are more taxes coming, The Joint committee on taxation just found out that under the Obamacare bill drug companies, medical device manufacturers and insurers would pay $121 billion over 10 years as a result of taxes in the Senate Finance Committee version. They won't pass those costs onto the consumer though will they, no. That's just for starters, we're going to have to feed the unions at GM some more since demand has dropped for autos after the cash for clunkers rip off. Who subsidized that by the way? Those are just a few examples, but it goes on. Oh, the Supreme Court will soon be taking up a case regarding whether or not the 2nd amendment will also apply to the states. As if it isn't already specifically listed in the Constitution as a right pertaining to all citizens, but since some leftist legislature is rightly scared of an armed citizenry it somehow now needs to be ruled on. "Climate of Fear", can you idiots post one comment with out those tired, old Hackneyed lefty talking points. Bush only had 26 czars, to get the Number 47 you have to count the number of people who held the same position. Nice try. Obama's got a lot more. That's not the point, which one of these departments are specifically listed in the Constitution i.e. Green jobs czar or some other such ridiculous nonsense. One person, does not a patter make, referring the Dr. Tiller's murderer. What about John Malvo, Muslim extremist or the guy that killed the guard at the Holocaust museum, an avowed socialist, as was Lee Harvey Oswald. Don't forget the Unibomber was a rabid Al Gore fan. Can you prove “rhetoric” causes behavior?

Furthermore, there are more taxes coming, The Joint committee on taxation just found out that under the Obamacare bill drug companies, medical device manufacturers and insurers would pay $121 billion over 10 years as a result of taxes in the Senate Finance Committee version. They won't pass those costs onto the consumer though will they, no. That's just for starters, we're going to have to feed the unions at GM some more since demand has dropped for autos after the cash for clunkers rip off. Who subsidized that by the way? Those are just a few examples, but it goes on. Oh, the Supreme Court will soon be taking up a case regarding whether or not the 2nd amendment will also apply to the states. As if it isn't already specifically listed in the Constitution as a right pertaining to all citizens, but since some leftist legislature is rightly scared of an armed citizenry it somehow now needs to be ruled on. “Climate of Fear”, can you idiots post one comment with out those tired, old Hackneyed lefty talking points. Bush only had 26 czars, to get the Number 47 you have to count the number of people who held the same position. Nice try. Obama's got a lot more. That's not the point, which one of these departments are specifically listed in the Constitution i.e. Green jobs czar or some other such ridiculous nonsense.

]]> By: bubba4 http://frontpagemag.com/2009/10/05/the-left%e2%80%99s-selective-outrage-%e2%80%93-by-bruce-thornton/comment-page-1/#comment-1074 bubba4 Wed, 07 Oct 2009 06:14:40 +0000 http://frontpagemag.com/?p=24625#comment-1074 I think he posted the item about the increase of Presidental death threats as one example of a changing environment. You seem to make it all about that...so enjoy yourself. <br><br>You get a little more ugly everyday... I think he posted the item about the increase of Presidental death threats as one example of a changing environment. You seem to make it all about that…so enjoy yourself.

You get a little more ugly everyday…

]]> By: bubba4 http://frontpagemag.com/2009/10/05/the-left%e2%80%99s-selective-outrage-%e2%80%93-by-bruce-thornton/comment-page-1/#comment-1071 bubba4 Wed, 07 Oct 2009 06:07:21 +0000 http://frontpagemag.com/?p=24625#comment-1071 Your being dense and stupid about this and I think it's on purpose. Tricky clear said that he doesn't buy into the very new assertions by FPM and other that all bad things in history are "left" while "right" is angelic. While it's only one example of FPM's constant mangling of the political lexicon, it is an important one. This latest post is just to turn around an accuse him of the opposite....boy taking the time to talk to you looks like fun...:( Your being dense and stupid about this and I think it's on purpose. Tricky clear said that he doesn't buy into the very new assertions by FPM and other that all bad things in history are “left” while “right” is angelic. While it's only one example of FPM's constant mangling of the political lexicon, it is an important one. This latest post is just to turn around an accuse him of the opposite….boy taking the time to talk to you looks like fun…:(

]]> By: bubba4 http://frontpagemag.com/2009/10/05/the-left%e2%80%99s-selective-outrage-%e2%80%93-by-bruce-thornton/comment-page-1/#comment-1070 bubba4 Wed, 07 Oct 2009 05:58:13 +0000 http://frontpagemag.com/?p=24625#comment-1070 You just provided a perfect example of what the author noted in this piece,:<br>"First, though, consider the reductive psychological analysis typical of liberals, who see all behavior as the consequence of environmental factors outside the individual, rather than being the result of choice."<br><br>Um...the point is not to pre-blame someone, it's to warn that you should stop lying to people and trying to scare them or one of them might make the CHOICE to do something stupid.<br><br>"So righty who flips out and commits acts of violence, which hasn't happened yet, will be blamed on FPM and Fox news."<br><br>Well...look what happened to that abortion doctor..Tiller I think was his name. You don't think you can rightly draw a correlation there? Believing in individual responsibility has nothing to do with it. Of course the murderer or bomber is responsible...but if you don't understand why the extreme rhetoric isn't a good thing then I can't help you. If you think I am pre-blaming then you are pre-excusing or being purposefully naive.<br><br>"Neither one of these entities has the power of tax and regulate our business out of existence, nor seize our property or our firearms, or appoint czars to unconstitutional positions without being confirmed by the Senate."<br><br>What? What new taxes? What property has been seized? What firearms have been confiscated...the gun laws are completely loose. In Arizona, they passed a law that let's people walk around like cowboys if they want. "Czars" is just a nickname for agency heads. Bush had 47 of them....there is nothing strange or unusual about these positions.<br><br>"Don't you think these factors would collude to force any decent American over the edge? Probably not in your world I guess."<br><br>Well these lies or exaggerations are a part of it. Climate of fear... You just provided a perfect example of what the author noted in this piece,:
“First, though, consider the reductive psychological analysis typical of liberals, who see all behavior as the consequence of environmental factors outside the individual, rather than being the result of choice.”

Um…the point is not to pre-blame someone, it's to warn that you should stop lying to people and trying to scare them or one of them might make the CHOICE to do something stupid.

“So righty who flips out and commits acts of violence, which hasn't happened yet, will be blamed on FPM and Fox news.”

Well…look what happened to that abortion doctor..Tiller I think was his name. You don't think you can rightly draw a correlation there? Believing in individual responsibility has nothing to do with it. Of course the murderer or bomber is responsible…but if you don't understand why the extreme rhetoric isn't a good thing then I can't help you. If you think I am pre-blaming then you are pre-excusing or being purposefully naive.

“Neither one of these entities has the power of tax and regulate our business out of existence, nor seize our property or our firearms, or appoint czars to unconstitutional positions without being confirmed by the Senate.”

What? What new taxes? What property has been seized? What firearms have been confiscated…the gun laws are completely loose. In Arizona, they passed a law that let's people walk around like cowboys if they want. “Czars” is just a nickname for agency heads. Bush had 47 of them….there is nothing strange or unusual about these positions.

“Don't you think these factors would collude to force any decent American over the edge? Probably not in your world I guess.”

Well these lies or exaggerations are a part of it. Climate of fear…

]]> By: coyote3 http://frontpagemag.com/2009/10/05/the-left%e2%80%99s-selective-outrage-%e2%80%93-by-bruce-thornton/comment-page-1/#comment-1063 coyote3 Wed, 07 Oct 2009 04:44:38 +0000 http://frontpagemag.com/?p=24625#comment-1063 My, my, all this violence. I have seen it here, and still see it sometimes, but it is not directed toward some Negro. It is for the same reasons that it has been going on around here, snce they called it "frontera roja", e.g. a pool hall/cantina/honky tonk fight, women, insults, and, of course, contraband (mojados, drugas, mujeres) you name it. <br><br>If you have some insight regarding an organized, or unorganized threat to the President of the United State, you need to be talking to the USA, not blabbering. Of course that would require you to show that some law is being violated. Fact is, the president, any president, ought to take office with guy following him around hollering "DEAD MAN WALKING" over and over again. Fact is, if someone "really" wants to kill the president, and doesn't care about getting caught, the president is dead., The only issue then becomes do we spend the taxpayer money on a pine box, or do we do a "bandito funeral" with a shelter half and hole? The president, any president, as a man, is nothing special. That doesn't make killin him okay. It is murder like any other, we will get another one. I recall the day after JFK was killed, we were off from school. A guy named Bubba and I went deer hunting and I got a nice little Tejas deer, not my first, but it was good. Someone on the street in town, said "you know, the president was killed yesterday." Bubba said, "yeah, I know, and I know we didn't kill em'" My, my, all this violence. I have seen it here, and still see it sometimes, but it is not directed toward some Negro. It is for the same reasons that it has been going on around here, snce they called it “frontera roja”, e.g. a pool hall/cantina/honky tonk fight, women, insults, and, of course, contraband (mojados, drugas, mujeres) you name it.

If you have some insight regarding an organized, or unorganized threat to the President of the United State, you need to be talking to the USA, not blabbering. Of course that would require you to show that some law is being violated. Fact is, the president, any president, ought to take office with guy following him around hollering “DEAD MAN WALKING” over and over again. Fact is, if someone “really” wants to kill the president, and doesn't care about getting caught, the president is dead., The only issue then becomes do we spend the taxpayer money on a pine box, or do we do a “bandito funeral” with a shelter half and hole? The president, any president, as a man, is nothing special. That doesn't make killin him okay. It is murder like any other, we will get another one. I recall the day after JFK was killed, we were off from school. A guy named Bubba and I went deer hunting and I got a nice little Tejas deer, not my first, but it was good. Someone on the street in town, said “you know, the president was killed yesterday.” Bubba said, “yeah, I know, and I know we didn't kill em'”

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