Comments on: The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly of Glenn Beck’s Idiots – by David Forsmark http://frontpagemag.com/2009/10/12/the-good-the-bad-and-the-ugly-of-glenn-beck%e2%80%99s-idiots-by-david-forsmark/ Sat, 26 May 2012 14:55:10 +0000 hourly 1 By: sff http://frontpagemag.com/2009/10/12/the-good-the-bad-and-the-ugly-of-glenn-beck%e2%80%99s-idiots-by-david-forsmark/comment-page-1/#comment-214279 sff Wed, 16 Mar 2011 01:03:49 +0000 http://frontpagemag.com/?p=28557#comment-214279 "arguing with idiots" is a reference to a skit in his radio show (which although arguably confrontational) is designed to be more comical and entertaining then serious. I haven't read his book but I'm surprised that the reviewer dislikes the jacket the most because although I doubt I'd have too much fun with a glenn beck book I thought the cover was funny and in good taste (the reviews more so than the picture). "arguing with idiots" is a reference to a skit in his radio show (which although arguably confrontational) is designed to be more comical and entertaining then serious. I haven't read his book but I'm surprised that the reviewer dislikes the jacket the most because although I doubt I'd have too much fun with a glenn beck book I thought the cover was funny and in good taste (the reviews more so than the picture).

]]> By: johnrmccommas http://frontpagemag.com/2009/10/12/the-good-the-bad-and-the-ugly-of-glenn-beck%e2%80%99s-idiots-by-david-forsmark/comment-page-2/#comment-10004 johnrmccommas Sun, 20 Dec 2009 14:10:43 +0000 http://frontpagemag.com/?p=28557#comment-10004 I bought the book and I am going to read it! Doesn't that make you mad??!!!<br><br>-- That is of course AFTER I finish Sarah's book. I bought the book and I am going to read it! Doesn't that make you mad??!!!

– That is of course AFTER I finish Sarah's book.

]]> By: Walt http://frontpagemag.com/2009/10/12/the-good-the-bad-and-the-ugly-of-glenn-beck%e2%80%99s-idiots-by-david-forsmark/comment-page-2/#comment-9330 Walt Tue, 15 Dec 2009 20:44:41 +0000 http://frontpagemag.com/?p=28557#comment-9330 Your quibbling about the title of the book is rather silly. Do you think the "Dummies" and "Idiots" series really caused those "how to" books to fail? In a marketplace flooded with titles, one really has to stand out in order to avoid winding up in the remainder section at a bookstore. You really do need to "man up" if such a book title makes you so queasy. Your quibbling about the title of the book is rather silly. Do you think the “Dummies” and “Idiots” series really caused those “how to” books to fail? In a marketplace flooded with titles, one really has to stand out in order to avoid winding up in the remainder section at a bookstore. You really do need to “man up” if such a book title makes you so queasy.

]]> By: EvilConservitive 1 http://frontpagemag.com/2009/10/12/the-good-the-bad-and-the-ugly-of-glenn-beck%e2%80%99s-idiots-by-david-forsmark/comment-page-2/#comment-8615 EvilConservitive 1 Thu, 10 Dec 2009 02:41:57 +0000 http://frontpagemag.com/?p=28557#comment-8615 God Bless Glenn Beck for telling the truth about the sad state of our once-noble goverment. (Well, as noble as a goverment can be anyway.) I am young and a recent convert to Beck's thinking, however I am old enough to know that I am a bitter middle class American clinging to my guns and religon, and that I need to learn how to defend my rights and the rights of my friends and family from the vast leftist conspiracy to steal our freedom. Once more, GOD BLESS YOU GLENN BECK! God Bless Glenn Beck for telling the truth about the sad state of our once-noble goverment. (Well, as noble as a goverment can be anyway.) I am young and a recent convert to Beck's thinking, however I am old enough to know that I am a bitter middle class American clinging to my guns and religon, and that I need to learn how to defend my rights and the rights of my friends and family from the vast leftist conspiracy to steal our freedom. Once more, GOD BLESS YOU GLENN BECK!

]]> By: trodaball http://frontpagemag.com/2009/10/12/the-good-the-bad-and-the-ugly-of-glenn-beck%e2%80%99s-idiots-by-david-forsmark/comment-page-2/#comment-8305 trodaball Tue, 08 Dec 2009 07:36:18 +0000 http://frontpagemag.com/?p=28557#comment-8305 When the book first appeared I too was bothered by the cover. It looked more parady or comic-based. I wanted it to be read by a wide-cross section of people who are curious at all the Beck popularity, as well as those interested in how a large portion of America thinks. i.e. I wanted it to be taken seriously by as many as possible. I love the book and still hate the cover. When the book first appeared I too was bothered by the cover. It looked more parady or comic-based. I wanted it to be read by a wide-cross section of people who are curious at all the Beck popularity, as well as those interested in how a large portion of America thinks. i.e. I wanted it to be taken seriously by as many as possible. I love the book and still hate the cover.

]]> By: joven123 http://frontpagemag.com/2009/10/12/the-good-the-bad-and-the-ugly-of-glenn-beck%e2%80%99s-idiots-by-david-forsmark/comment-page-2/#comment-3947 joven123 Fri, 06 Nov 2009 17:55:59 +0000 http://frontpagemag.com/?p=28557#comment-3947 Arguing with idiots should be required reading in highschools. (Like that is ever going to happen!). I was a fence sitter until I read this book. I am still not convinced that we need some oversight on businesses (Enron anyone?) but beck has convinced me that we have taken our oversight way past any sane limit. What drives me insane is the people who most need to read this book will not. How can you call yourself anything but an idiot if you refuse to ever even consider the other side of any argument? Arguing with idiots should be required reading in highschools. (Like that is ever going to happen!). I was a fence sitter until I read this book. I am still not convinced that we need some oversight on businesses (Enron anyone?) but beck has convinced me that we have taken our oversight way past any sane limit. What drives me insane is the people who most need to read this book will not. How can you call yourself anything but an idiot if you refuse to ever even consider the other side of any argument?

]]> By: Otis http://frontpagemag.com/2009/10/12/the-good-the-bad-and-the-ugly-of-glenn-beck%e2%80%99s-idiots-by-david-forsmark/comment-page-2/#comment-2582 Otis Sat, 24 Oct 2009 00:42:44 +0000 http://frontpagemag.com/?p=28557#comment-2582 The book was fantastic- matter of fact, it attracted a different audience than mentioned. My friends and I waited for that until it came out, screaming 'yeah!!!' when we got it.<br>I love the fact that it's fun and in depth, for what better way to entertain a 15 year old teenager?<br>We get so tired of every one reacting with regurgatated one-liners and emotions, and we knew in our guts (even if our parents thought not) that something wasn't right. This book helped us with facts, and provided us with the means to react calmly and civily, and many of the times we got yelled at any ways.<br>Was worth it though. The book was fantastic- matter of fact, it attracted a different audience than mentioned. My friends and I waited for that until it came out, screaming 'yeah!!!' when we got it.
I love the fact that it's fun and in depth, for what better way to entertain a 15 year old teenager?
We get so tired of every one reacting with regurgatated one-liners and emotions, and we knew in our guts (even if our parents thought not) that something wasn't right. This book helped us with facts, and provided us with the means to react calmly and civily, and many of the times we got yelled at any ways.
Was worth it though.

]]> By: Terri http://frontpagemag.com/2009/10/12/the-good-the-bad-and-the-ugly-of-glenn-beck%e2%80%99s-idiots-by-david-forsmark/comment-page-2/#comment-2150 Terri Mon, 19 Oct 2009 23:18:22 +0000 http://frontpagemag.com/?p=28557#comment-2150 I <3 this book!! The layout is perfect to move around in it when using it for reference. Plus I love that Glenn included exactly where he got his information from so we don't have to quote him - haha. Glenn is the master of the fusion of entertainment and enlightment! I <3 this book!! The layout is perfect to move around in it when using it for reference. Plus I love that Glenn included exactly where he got his information from so we don't have to quote him – haha. Glenn is the master of the fusion of entertainment and enlightment!

]]> By: KIMINARKANSAS1 http://frontpagemag.com/2009/10/12/the-good-the-bad-and-the-ugly-of-glenn-beck%e2%80%99s-idiots-by-david-forsmark/comment-page-2/#comment-2088 KIMINARKANSAS1 Mon, 19 Oct 2009 07:57:30 +0000 http://frontpagemag.com/?p=28557#comment-2088 GLEN YOU ARE THE BEST ...WE ARE WITH YOU 100% , NO 110%........ GOD BLESS YOU AND YOUR FAMILY KIM IN HOT SPRINGS , ARKANSAS GLEN YOU ARE THE BEST …WE ARE WITH YOU 100% , NO 110%…….. GOD BLESS YOU AND YOUR FAMILY KIM IN HOT SPRINGS , ARKANSAS

]]> By: facebook-758119692 http://frontpagemag.com/2009/10/12/the-good-the-bad-and-the-ugly-of-glenn-beck%e2%80%99s-idiots-by-david-forsmark/comment-page-2/#comment-1949 facebook-758119692 Fri, 16 Oct 2009 16:56:29 +0000 http://frontpagemag.com/?p=28557#comment-1949 Just ran across this interesting and brief review. I hope you will at least check out the review. Just ran across this interesting and brief review. I hope you will at least check out the review.

]]> By: Fern Fitzgerald http://frontpagemag.com/2009/10/12/the-good-the-bad-and-the-ugly-of-glenn-beck%e2%80%99s-idiots-by-david-forsmark/comment-page-1/#comment-1913 Fern Fitzgerald Fri, 16 Oct 2009 13:15:06 +0000 http://frontpagemag.com/?p=28557#comment-1913 At last a book where I can back up my comments to others with facts! At last a book where I can back up my comments to others with facts!

]]> By: frankadefeo http://frontpagemag.com/2009/10/12/the-good-the-bad-and-the-ugly-of-glenn-beck%e2%80%99s-idiots-by-david-forsmark/comment-page-1/#comment-1839 frankadefeo Thu, 15 Oct 2009 20:02:13 +0000 http://frontpagemag.com/?p=28557#comment-1839 very interesting very interesting

]]> By: facebook-1080232452 http://frontpagemag.com/2009/10/12/the-good-the-bad-and-the-ugly-of-glenn-beck%e2%80%99s-idiots-by-david-forsmark/comment-page-1/#comment-1837 facebook-1080232452 Thu, 15 Oct 2009 19:33:24 +0000 http://frontpagemag.com/?p=28557#comment-1837 "Arguing with Idiots".... definitely worth dropping a twenty! It's a great book with creative layouts... funny, but fanatically factual and proves how progressive thinkers are not exactly the altruistic, superior intellectuals, they try to portray themselves to be. “Arguing with Idiots”…. definitely worth dropping a twenty! It's a great book with creative layouts… funny, but fanatically factual and proves how progressive thinkers are not exactly the altruistic, superior intellectuals, they try to portray themselves to be.

]]> By: Dr Duncan Druhl http://frontpagemag.com/2009/10/12/the-good-the-bad-and-the-ugly-of-glenn-beck%e2%80%99s-idiots-by-david-forsmark/comment-page-1/#comment-1833 Dr Duncan Druhl Thu, 15 Oct 2009 18:58:41 +0000 http://frontpagemag.com/?p=28557#comment-1833 Spot on. In responding to media hysteria, as the frothing-at-the-mouth commentators have been doing recently, one has to similarly respond to THE DOGMA with facts. Only data will get the attention, however short it may be, of those who daily worship THE DOGMA.<br><br>It really isn't all that different from the task in front of people prior to the Enlightenment, you know. Brushing away the superstition and illusions surrounding THE DOGMA takes facts, and for that we can be thankful to Beck's research.<br><br>Similarly, "Liberal Fascism" is equally useful in a parallel battle as it, too, is well researched and speaks to the same audience. Spot on. In responding to media hysteria, as the frothing-at-the-mouth commentators have been doing recently, one has to similarly respond to THE DOGMA with facts. Only data will get the attention, however short it may be, of those who daily worship THE DOGMA.

It really isn't all that different from the task in front of people prior to the Enlightenment, you know. Brushing away the superstition and illusions surrounding THE DOGMA takes facts, and for that we can be thankful to Beck's research.

Similarly, “Liberal Fascism” is equally useful in a parallel battle as it, too, is well researched and speaks to the same audience.

]]> By: ddturnerjr http://frontpagemag.com/2009/10/12/the-good-the-bad-and-the-ugly-of-glenn-beck%e2%80%99s-idiots-by-david-forsmark/comment-page-1/#comment-1831 ddturnerjr Thu, 15 Oct 2009 18:38:46 +0000 http://frontpagemag.com/?p=28557#comment-1831 Although the marketing tactics were all but graceful, I will respecfully disagree with your critique of Beck's marketing strategy. I believe Beck is "right on daddy'o", in that he is succeeding at what he makes clear his goal: to arm the American people with the truth, even if doing so indirectly.<br><br>Don't get me wrong, any fringe liberal converted by this book would be an excellent bonus, I just don't think that Beck invisioned it to happen that way. I believe this book was intended to be in the hands of the people that already feel in their gut that something just isn't right with what is going on today, and want to set clear in their mind what they already know to be true.<br><br>These factually based arguments provided by Arguing With Idiots will allow the readers to influence the ideas and opinions of millions of Americans, even if they are only fractionally successful. In this way, Beck has directly and indirectly had a HUGE and positive effect on the course of our history and every single American<br><br>I think that his marketing strategy was a strategic, in your face, highly specific, and to one single market: To the American people that are committed to uphold our God-given rights that have made us the greatest nation on Earth, Freedom & Liberty. And everyone else, "Find the truth, they will. Hmmm? Yes?" Although the marketing tactics were all but graceful, I will respecfully disagree with your critique of Beck's marketing strategy. I believe Beck is “right on daddy'o”, in that he is succeeding at what he makes clear his goal: to arm the American people with the truth, even if doing so indirectly.

Don't get me wrong, any fringe liberal converted by this book would be an excellent bonus, I just don't think that Beck invisioned it to happen that way. I believe this book was intended to be in the hands of the people that already feel in their gut that something just isn't right with what is going on today, and want to set clear in their mind what they already know to be true.

These factually based arguments provided by Arguing With Idiots will allow the readers to influence the ideas and opinions of millions of Americans, even if they are only fractionally successful. In this way, Beck has directly and indirectly had a HUGE and positive effect on the course of our history and every single American

I think that his marketing strategy was a strategic, in your face, highly specific, and to one single market: To the American people that are committed to uphold our God-given rights that have made us the greatest nation on Earth, Freedom & Liberty. And everyone else, “Find the truth, they will. Hmmm? Yes?”

]]> By: Congress Works For Us http://frontpagemag.com/2009/10/12/the-good-the-bad-and-the-ugly-of-glenn-beck%e2%80%99s-idiots-by-david-forsmark/comment-page-1/#comment-1825 Congress Works For Us Thu, 15 Oct 2009 17:19:34 +0000 http://frontpagemag.com/?p=28557#comment-1825 I understand why you are saying what you are saying, but I think you've missed the point of the book.<br><br>The book is not meant to convince Liberals of the error of their ways. Liberals simply wont be convinced by Glenn Beck. Even the commentator that stated he was convinced after listening to a week of Beck and Limbaugh, was convinced only because a FRIEND convinced him to listen to their shows.<br><br>The book is meant for people like me, who are surrounded by doubters, and who need real facts to back up our arguments.<br><br>The one thing I think the review missed is the footnotes. Everything Beck says in the book is backed up by quotes from sources that Liberals are likely to accept (such as the NYT), and there are pages and pages of these.<br><br>So when I tell my mother-in-law why she's wrong, and she says "Oh, where did you hear that, Fox News?" I can reply, "No, actually it was in the New York Times." Priceless! I understand why you are saying what you are saying, but I think you've missed the point of the book.

The book is not meant to convince Liberals of the error of their ways. Liberals simply wont be convinced by Glenn Beck. Even the commentator that stated he was convinced after listening to a week of Beck and Limbaugh, was convinced only because a FRIEND convinced him to listen to their shows.

The book is meant for people like me, who are surrounded by doubters, and who need real facts to back up our arguments.

The one thing I think the review missed is the footnotes. Everything Beck says in the book is backed up by quotes from sources that Liberals are likely to accept (such as the NYT), and there are pages and pages of these.

So when I tell my mother-in-law why she's wrong, and she says “Oh, where did you hear that, Fox News?” I can reply, “No, actually it was in the New York Times.” Priceless!

]]> By: joshbooker http://frontpagemag.com/2009/10/12/the-good-the-bad-and-the-ugly-of-glenn-beck%e2%80%99s-idiots-by-david-forsmark/comment-page-1/#comment-1817 joshbooker Thu, 15 Oct 2009 15:36:39 +0000 http://frontpagemag.com/?p=28557#comment-1817 Great Review! Glenn has said on the radio that he wanted to call the book something like 'America's March to Socialism' but publisher over a year ago said no one is thinking of socialism that wont sell. Glenn said Oh they will be! <br><br>As for the cover, I think Glenn's 'March' title would tie in the outfit and besides...you know what they say about how not to judge a book!<br><br>Still great review Mr. Forsmark Great Review! Glenn has said on the radio that he wanted to call the book something like 'America's March to Socialism' but publisher over a year ago said no one is thinking of socialism that wont sell. Glenn said Oh they will be!

As for the cover, I think Glenn's 'March' title would tie in the outfit and besides…you know what they say about how not to judge a book!

Still great review Mr. Forsmark

]]> By: ashjones http://frontpagemag.com/2009/10/12/the-good-the-bad-and-the-ugly-of-glenn-beck%e2%80%99s-idiots-by-david-forsmark/comment-page-1/#comment-1806 ashjones Thu, 15 Oct 2009 13:41:14 +0000 http://frontpagemag.com/?p=28557#comment-1806 Atta Boy Glen. keep up the good work! Show BO the ropes, he's not a real true American - we feel that in our gut. Atta Boy Glen. keep up the good work! Show BO the ropes, he's not a real true American – we feel that in our gut.

]]> By: richnorris http://frontpagemag.com/2009/10/12/the-good-the-bad-and-the-ugly-of-glenn-beck%e2%80%99s-idiots-by-david-forsmark/comment-page-1/#comment-1805 richnorris Thu, 15 Oct 2009 13:38:08 +0000 http://frontpagemag.com/?p=28557#comment-1805 I have been a designer for 40 years. I've worked for fortune 500 companies throughout my career, I always designed outside of the BOX. I tip my hat to all of the creative folks that put this master piece together. The content is right on the money. If they had this book back when I was in school I would have stayed awake. Oh yea, the numbers are with the RIGHT, let the LEFT play catch-up like they always do. Great job Glenn. Thanks for being silly. Most of the media live in straight jackets. PS. Loose the suits. That's the only thing that doesn't work on your show. Keep On, Keeping On! God Bless America. I have been a designer for 40 years. I've worked for fortune 500 companies throughout my career, I always designed outside of the BOX. I tip my hat to all of the creative folks that put this master piece together. The content is right on the money. If they had this book back when I was in school I would have stayed awake. Oh yea, the numbers are with the RIGHT, let the LEFT play catch-up like they always do. Great job Glenn. Thanks for being silly. Most of the media live in straight jackets. PS. Loose the suits. That's the only thing that doesn't work on your show. Keep On, Keeping On! God Bless America.

]]> By: Rweger http://frontpagemag.com/2009/10/12/the-good-the-bad-and-the-ugly-of-glenn-beck%e2%80%99s-idiots-by-david-forsmark/comment-page-1/#comment-1792 Rweger Thu, 15 Oct 2009 09:38:06 +0000 http://frontpagemag.com/?p=28557#comment-1792 “It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it.” - Aristotle<br><br>People who are open minded, curious for truth and without an agenda, will enjoy Mr. Beck's book and since they are still in the majority #1 status is assured. “It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it.” – Aristotle

People who are open minded, curious for truth and without an agenda, will enjoy Mr. Beck's book and since they are still in the majority #1 status is assured.

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