Maybe you give to much credence to the bullshit you read on FPM and elsewhere.

Gee…I don't know Priz…maybe because that what's some of our allies have done (like Britian) and it's worked just fine.

“Just this morning the government (HHS), announced they can't get enough H1N1 vaccine to the people in time for many to avoid catching the flu.”

Well…you should, if you want the vaccine, see if you can get it. Then if you can't because of shortages, you can complain that the government can't do anything right. If you do get, you can tell the nurse when she is done injecting you or squirting you in the nose, “thanks you commie bitch”.

I could see some of these doom and gloom arguments if we were the first industrialized nation to dare to try something so “crazy”…but we're not…we're the last one who hasn't done shit about this common problem of modern society.

“Ask yourself why this administration is fighting so hard for this control when the people don't want it. Why? Do you think it's because they care so much about you? Your health? If they did, they'd just allow you to deduct your medical costs from your taxes, right? “

Well whether “people” “want it” is a matter of conjecture. People show “polls” that go whatever way they paid to have it go. The administration has to do something about health care. The costs aren't going to stop going up. You think the insurance companies are going to make LESS money in the future…they can't…they have to grow and make money for their shareholders.

Look you can be afraid of reform and support those that want to water down anhy public option so it will naturally fail. That's your option….but this crazy idea that Obama is trying to control your life is nonsense. There are lots of people who make a lot of money off America's sickness and they will fit (with money) to keep things the way they are…which is fucked up. The only way they can get you to accept it and to fight reform is to scare you about it.

“So I ask you again bubba, why do the President and his followers want this so much. Why? I know why, do you?”

I think this is a horrible mischaracterization of what's going on to start. If you think Obama is a marxist sleeper agent who wants to destroy America then why bother talking about policy?

Like many pro-socialist medicine commentaries, this phraseology is a pile of guilt tripping hypocritical hooey! I'm against the Obama, Baucus and socialist medicine 'reforms' becuase they're horrible ideas and have been proven inept in real world experiments in Canada, England, Germany and Poland, et al, but I'm certainly NOT against reform. So please don't say that I (and others like me in the majority of this nation) are with your little generalizations.

This is a highly dubious assumption. This is not what many, perhaps majorities in places like Germany, England and Canada say.

Just this morning the government (HHS), announced they can't get enough H1N1 vaccine to the people in time for many to avoid catching the flu.

That's just one aspect they had to deal with, and can't do it.

Now, back to government healthcare. Cost effectiveness means rationing. In other words, if you're sick, and say, seventy five, or a baby, it could be interpreted as in either or both cases, the risk of failure is too high to be cost effective, and care in those cases could be denied.

There are not enough doctors now, and if government healthcare passes, those who can afford to retire are likely to do so. Consider those ramifications.

Finally, the last place you want, to have control and power over your life, is the government. If this passes, you will no longer be free. It's as simple as that.

Ask yourself why this administration is fighting so hard for this control when the people don't want it. Why? Do you think it's because they care so much about you? Your health? If they did, they'd just allow you to deduct your medical costs from your taxes, right?

As it stands now, you can get a tax break on medical costs over 7 1/2 % of your income. But, guess what? They plan to raise that to medical costs over 10 % of your income, which means you have to absorb 10% or 2 1/2 % more of your medical cost instead of 7 1/2 %, before that tax break kicks in.

But, I know bubba, they really care don't they. Ummm no! They want control. Power. They want to make you believe they know better than you, what's good for you, even though you can talk to your doctor and find that out from him or her whom surely you trust more than some faceless bureaucrat.

When you already know that medicare is broke, medicaid is broke, and social security is broke, why in the world would you trust the government when they say they'll cut costs when any fool knows from experience and example, it's not sustainable or possible. But more than that you will not be free to decide your own fate.

All the new taxes, mandates, and fines included in the healthcare bills, will begin next year even though the healthcare plan is not to go into effect until after 2013. Wow, how about that? It would begin after the 2012 election!! I'll be damned, what a shock.

bubba, I have a copy of the bureaucratic chart which came out with the House bill. Do you really think waste will be cut? If it can be cut, why aren't they doing it now? I count 58 depts. and or agencies, and the Executive branch and Congress.

Maybe it's seniors who are the “waste”. Maybe sickly newborns are the “waste”. Maybe certain kinds if cancer treatments are the “waste”. You know, people who are “expendable” because they cost too much. And we're all reduced to numbers. That's real compassion huh?

So I ask you again bubba, why do the President and his followers want this so much. Why? I know why, do you?

So you're an advicate of single payer health care? That would elliminate a lot of waste.

Interestingly, the dentist lowers his charges a bit for us. Not because we can't pay it, but because he doesn't have to deal with an insurance co, and it saves him on forms and paperwork.

If we have expensive work done he'll accept monthly payments on the bill, if we prefer or find it necessary.

I point this out because the argument made that we subsidize people who don't have insurance, is bogus. You'd think no one out there ever paid a bill. Well, we pay for the insurance don't we? Why can't we pay the doctor? Or dentist? Years ago, and I'm old enough to remember, as a kid my parents were billed directly, and IMO, if it were still thus, most of us would pay for it and the charges would be competetive. You could have a lot of office visits for what you pay for insurance.

What most of us need is high deductible insurance in the event of a catastrophic disease or condition.

But, it seems we've been in this system for so long, we've forgotten how to look out for ourselves. We are now forced to have medical insurance because the very existence of insurance has driven up costs all the way around, epecially the cost of the insurance itself.

It has also driven up costs for doctors, in that they now have to employ people to do nothing but deal with insurance bookwork and the company which supplies it. Medical malpractice insurance has given patients the idea that they can sue for anything and everything, as though it's free money. That cost is passed on to us.

As for the government, what this administration wants is power, and is happy to get it on the backs of seniors and anyone who's sick. My children and grandchild will pay for this in spades, and they will not get their money's worth.

It's all a shell game for the powerful who can't get enough power, they'll always want more, like an addict, enough is never enough!

Ha! Fat chance. I was asked to sign a statement recently that I had read and understood the patient's Privacy Statement posted in the doctor's office waiting room. Looking around, I could not locate any such statement.