Comments on: The ACLU’s Terror Lobby – by Andrew Walden http://frontpagemag.com/2009/11/24/the-aclu%e2%80%99s-terror-lobby-%e2%80%93-by-andrew-walden/ Fri, 19 Mar 2010 07:03:39 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: kentuckydan http://frontpagemag.com/2009/11/24/the-aclu%e2%80%99s-terror-lobby-%e2%80%93-by-andrew-walden/comment-page-1/#comment-6792 kentuckydan Thu, 26 Nov 2009 02:28:24 +0000 http://frontpagemag.com/?p=38589#comment-6792 I am eternally greatful we have an organization whose goal is to ensure civil liberties for all, its just that its' the NRA not the ACLU the difference being the NRA thinks the Bill of Rights enumerates INDIVIDUAL Rights the ACLU believes in Collective Rights, <br>they think the 2cd ammendment is a collective right and I don;'t recall any ACLU action against Hate Speech or Campaign Reform limitations which IMO are fundamental 1st amendemtn issues, forget about the 1st amendment rights to freedom of religion I am eternally greatful we have an organization whose goal is to ensure civil liberties for all, its just that its' the NRA not the ACLU the difference being the NRA thinks the Bill of Rights enumerates INDIVIDUAL Rights the ACLU believes in Collective Rights,
they think the 2cd ammendment is a collective right and I don;'t recall any ACLU action against Hate Speech or Campaign Reform limitations which IMO are fundamental 1st amendemtn issues, forget about the 1st amendment rights to freedom of religion

]]> By: kentuckydan http://frontpagemag.com/2009/11/24/the-aclu%e2%80%99s-terror-lobby-%e2%80%93-by-andrew-walden/comment-page-1/#comment-6790 kentuckydan Thu, 26 Nov 2009 01:35:18 +0000 http://frontpagemag.com/?p=38589#comment-6790 I find it interesting that you consider an attack on the military elsewhere to be an Act of War, but an attack on civilians here by the same forces NOT an Act of War?<br><br>What do you do if civilians and the military are inermingled when the attack comes?<br><br>I saw give the detainees in GITMO Geneva rights, that means illegal combatants taken under arms uniformed can be summarily executed by the military OR if we want to forget about their illegal combatant status and give thme Protected Person status as POWs they can be kept in camps until a Peace Treaty is signed ;-O I find it interesting that you consider an attack on the military elsewhere to be an Act of War, but an attack on civilians here by the same forces NOT an Act of War?

What do you do if civilians and the military are inermingled when the attack comes?

I saw give the detainees in GITMO Geneva rights, that means illegal combatants taken under arms uniformed can be summarily executed by the military OR if we want to forget about their illegal combatant status and give thme Protected Person status as POWs they can be kept in camps until a Peace Treaty is signed ;-O

]]> By: USMCSniper http://frontpagemag.com/2009/11/24/the-aclu%e2%80%99s-terror-lobby-%e2%80%93-by-andrew-walden/comment-page-1/#comment-6763 USMCSniper Wed, 25 Nov 2009 21:11:02 +0000 http://frontpagemag.com/?p=38589#comment-6763 The denial by the Leftists in the ACLU and their supporters that Islamic death cells threaten the U.S. clears up one mystery. To outside observers, the refusal to balance the putative claims of unfettered freedom against the desirability of, say, remaining alive can seem the most perverse aspect of civil-libertarian ideology. But civil-rights absolutism makes more sense once you understand that the civil libertarians have apparently convinced themselves that terrorism is just a Republican bugaboo. <br><br>Such fantasies make for great fundraising pitches. The ACLU has been raking in the dough — and not just from payroll deductions — since 9/11. But the Left's blindness to the reality of foreign enemies should utterly disqualify it from government influence. That is not the case. Civil libertarians and privacy advocates exercise veto power over government research in the crucial fields of data mining and computer technology. The Department of Homeland Security recently cancelled a program to screen airline passengers for terrorist connections because privacy advocates objected. The next time a public official feels inclined to listen to a rights lobbyist, he should administer a simple sanity test: Do you believe that terrorism exists?" The denial by the Leftists in the ACLU and their supporters that Islamic death cells threaten the U.S. clears up one mystery. To outside observers, the refusal to balance the putative claims of unfettered freedom against the desirability of, say, remaining alive can seem the most perverse aspect of civil-libertarian ideology. But civil-rights absolutism makes more sense once you understand that the civil libertarians have apparently convinced themselves that terrorism is just a Republican bugaboo.

Such fantasies make for great fundraising pitches. The ACLU has been raking in the dough — and not just from payroll deductions — since 9/11. But the Left's blindness to the reality of foreign enemies should utterly disqualify it from government influence. That is not the case. Civil libertarians and privacy advocates exercise veto power over government research in the crucial fields of data mining and computer technology. The Department of Homeland Security recently cancelled a program to screen airline passengers for terrorist connections because privacy advocates objected. The next time a public official feels inclined to listen to a rights lobbyist, he should administer a simple sanity test: Do you believe that terrorism exists?”

]]> By: USMCSniper http://frontpagemag.com/2009/11/24/the-aclu%e2%80%99s-terror-lobby-%e2%80%93-by-andrew-walden/comment-page-1/#comment-6761 USMCSniper Wed, 25 Nov 2009 21:06:06 +0000 http://frontpagemag.com/?p=38589#comment-6761 Always remember, just because we are paranoid does not mean that the left is not really out to get us. Paranoid is good. It keeps you aware of dangers! Always remember, just because we are paranoid does not mean that the left is not really out to get us. Paranoid is good. It keeps you aware of dangers!

]]> By: Mark in Hosuton http://frontpagemag.com/2009/11/24/the-aclu%e2%80%99s-terror-lobby-%e2%80%93-by-andrew-walden/comment-page-1/#comment-6734 Mark in Hosuton Wed, 25 Nov 2009 18:59:21 +0000 http://frontpagemag.com/?p=38589#comment-6734 It is JANET Reno, not "Janice" Reno... FYI It is JANET Reno, not “Janice” Reno… FYI

]]> By: TheAdjuster http://frontpagemag.com/2009/11/24/the-aclu%e2%80%99s-terror-lobby-%e2%80%93-by-andrew-walden/comment-page-1/#comment-6721 TheAdjuster Wed, 25 Nov 2009 17:36:30 +0000 http://frontpagemag.com/?p=38589#comment-6721 Our friends???<br><br>You're the Democrat here. Our friends???

You're the Democrat here.

]]> By: TheAdjuster http://frontpagemag.com/2009/11/24/the-aclu%e2%80%99s-terror-lobby-%e2%80%93-by-andrew-walden/comment-page-1/#comment-6717 TheAdjuster Wed, 25 Nov 2009 17:28:50 +0000 http://frontpagemag.com/?p=38589#comment-6717 WRONG.<br>Here is Carter's Executive Order authorizing warantless wiretapping:<br><a href="http://www.fas.org/irp/offdocs/eo12139.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.fas.org/irp/offdocs/eo12139.htm</a> <br>Reagan's:<br><a href="http://www.fas.org/irp/offdocs/eo12333.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.fas.org/irp/offdocs/eo12333.htm</a><br>Clinton's:<br><a href="http://www.fas.org/irp/offdocs/eo/eo-12949.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.fas.org/irp/offdocs/eo/eo-12949.htm</a> WRONG.
Here is Carter's Executive Order authorizing warantless wiretapping:
http://www.fas.org/irp/offdocs/eo12139.htm
Reagan's:
http://www.fas.org/irp/offdocs/eo12333.htm
Clinton's:
http://www.fas.org/irp/offdocs/eo/eo-12949.htm

]]> By: Carterthewriter http://frontpagemag.com/2009/11/24/the-aclu%e2%80%99s-terror-lobby-%e2%80%93-by-andrew-walden/comment-page-1/#comment-6673 Carterthewriter Wed, 25 Nov 2009 14:10:51 +0000 http://frontpagemag.com/?p=38589#comment-6673 So, what's your point; it's okay to conspire using taxpayer's money because you're a politician. Presently the Dems have the power so it is their turn to take some heat, but that's not okay, sir. So, what's your point; it's okay to conspire using taxpayer's money because you're a politician. Presently the Dems have the power so it is their turn to take some heat, but that's not okay, sir.

]]> By: davidhorowitz http://frontpagemag.com/2009/11/24/the-aclu%e2%80%99s-terror-lobby-%e2%80%93-by-andrew-walden/comment-page-1/#comment-6672 davidhorowitz Wed, 25 Nov 2009 13:37:12 +0000 http://frontpagemag.com/?p=38589#comment-6672 Conspiracy on the Left? Sure, but you obviously haven't heard about the 'paranoid' style of politics, which the Right has perfected. The best example currently is Glenn Beck, who sees a new conspiracy everyday. But we could talk about Rush, who argued that the Oklohama City bombing (committed by a home-grown Right-winger) was a conspiracy by Saddam Hussein. Had there been any evidence to make the case, Bush/Cheney would have grasped it, which of course they didn't (instead, they tortured people to try to 'discover' a link between Iraq and 9/11, which makes them 'Troothers'). Or we could talk about David Horowitz, who has argued, against the 9/11 Commission, for the existence of Able Danger leading up to 9/11. So let's not be too quick to blame the Left for conspiracies, the Right is full of them... Conspiracy on the Left? Sure, but you obviously haven't heard about the 'paranoid' style of politics, which the Right has perfected. The best example currently is Glenn Beck, who sees a new conspiracy everyday. But we could talk about Rush, who argued that the Oklohama City bombing (committed by a home-grown Right-winger) was a conspiracy by Saddam Hussein. Had there been any evidence to make the case, Bush/Cheney would have grasped it, which of course they didn't (instead, they tortured people to try to 'discover' a link between Iraq and 9/11, which makes them 'Troothers'). Or we could talk about David Horowitz, who has argued, against the 9/11 Commission, for the existence of Able Danger leading up to 9/11. So let's not be too quick to blame the Left for conspiracies, the Right is full of them…

]]> By: davidhorowitz http://frontpagemag.com/2009/11/24/the-aclu%e2%80%99s-terror-lobby-%e2%80%93-by-andrew-walden/comment-page-1/#comment-6668 davidhorowitz Wed, 25 Nov 2009 13:31:57 +0000 http://frontpagemag.com/?p=38589#comment-6668 Even though they supported your friends the KKK the right to speak in public? Even though they supported your friends the KKK the right to speak in public?

]]> By: davidhorowitz http://frontpagemag.com/2009/11/24/the-aclu%e2%80%99s-terror-lobby-%e2%80%93-by-andrew-walden/comment-page-1/#comment-6666 davidhorowitz Wed, 25 Nov 2009 13:30:13 +0000 http://frontpagemag.com/?p=38589#comment-6666 No, the NSA scandal was a specific policy implemented by Bush. Honest Right-wingers who believe in the Constitution were appalled. No, the NSA scandal was a specific policy implemented by Bush. Honest Right-wingers who believe in the Constitution were appalled.

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