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	<title>Comments on: Stimulus 3.0? &#8211; by Jacob Laksin</title>
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		<title>By: Melinda</title>
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		<dc:creator>Melinda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Dec 2009 00:26:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>don&#039;t forget: lift chin as tho you&#039;re self-confident</description>
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		<title>By: USMCSniper</title>
		<link>http://frontpagemag.com/2009/12/09/stimulus-3-0-by-jacob-laksin/comment-page-1/#comment-8707</link>
		<dc:creator>USMCSniper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Dec 2009 15:15:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You really are too stupid to even suspect you are stupid.  Huhhh???  You say....&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&quot;Maybe we will see some daylight in Ms. Clinton&#039;s 2nd term&quot;   Good Grief, you are really a silly ridiculous fellow!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You really are too stupid to even suspect you are stupid.  Huhhh???  You say&#8230;.</p>
<p>&#8220;Maybe we will see some daylight in Ms. Clinton&#39;s 2nd term&#8221;   Good Grief, you are really a silly ridiculous fellow!</p>
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		<title>By: bushlikesdick12</title>
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		<dc:creator>bushlikesdick12</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Dec 2009 12:00:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Laksin would come up with the opposite scenerio if he could.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Well I guess he could if we use Carter as an example. I quess my his logic Reagan would be responsible for the economic crises that started under Carter&#039;s watch. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Reagan&#039;s approval rating wasn&#039;t much different than Obama&#039;s at this time of his adminstration either. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;So if we measure the effectiveness of a President by the condition of the country he left it for the next president then I would give Carter a 2 out of 10 and Bush Jr. a (-12) out of 10. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I&#039;m sorry but it is going to take a very long time to fix this mess Bush left us -- much longer than Obama&#039;s term limit of 8 years. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Maybe we will see some daylight in Ms. Clinton&#039;s 2nd term.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Laksin would come up with the opposite scenerio if he could.</p>
<p>Well I guess he could if we use Carter as an example. I quess my his logic Reagan would be responsible for the economic crises that started under Carter&#39;s watch. </p>
<p>Reagan&#39;s approval rating wasn&#39;t much different than Obama&#39;s at this time of his adminstration either. </p>
<p>So if we measure the effectiveness of a President by the condition of the country he left it for the next president then I would give Carter a 2 out of 10 and Bush Jr. a (-12) out of 10. </p>
<p>I&#39;m sorry but it is going to take a very long time to fix this mess Bush left us &#8212; much longer than Obama&#39;s term limit of 8 years. </p>
<p>Maybe we will see some daylight in Ms. Clinton&#39;s 2nd term.</p>
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		<title>By: bushlikesdick12</title>
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		<dc:creator>bushlikesdick12</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Dec 2009 11:52:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BS77 has no corner of the market here when it comes to BS</description>
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		<title>By: TellinYaNowBozos</title>
		<link>http://frontpagemag.com/2009/12/09/stimulus-3-0-by-jacob-laksin/comment-page-1/#comment-8613</link>
		<dc:creator>TellinYaNowBozos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Dec 2009 02:18:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think I know what the BS in BS77 stands for.  I mean c&#039;mon on already.  Hasn&#039;t anyone noticed that the scale of debt has increased steadily for 20 years, during the same decades that we settled on a confirmed strategy of deregulation, &#039;free trade&#039; and sending jobs overseas?  And the millions of homes that were foreclosed upon largely predated Obama - it was entirely predictable given the destruction of the middle class fostered by the prophets of excessive deregulation.  The mortgage industry pushed through laws that allowed mortgage brokers to distance themselves from any responsibility to the mortgage itself.  The result?  Mortgages handed out to those who couldn&#039;t pay.  The Bush administration loved it - the bloated housing &#039;boom&#039; in fact camoflaged the fact that the economy was in a shambles.  And there&#039;s more to come.  In respect to the &#039;lame stream media&#039;, we have to go back to the economists who are mostly linked to mainstream capitalist thinktanks, and who therefore have a stake in pretending the house of cards is still standing.  Get ready for the real crash, losers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think I know what the BS in BS77 stands for.  I mean c&#39;mon on already.  Hasn&#39;t anyone noticed that the scale of debt has increased steadily for 20 years, during the same decades that we settled on a confirmed strategy of deregulation, &#39;free trade&#39; and sending jobs overseas?  And the millions of homes that were foreclosed upon largely predated Obama &#8211; it was entirely predictable given the destruction of the middle class fostered by the prophets of excessive deregulation.  The mortgage industry pushed through laws that allowed mortgage brokers to distance themselves from any responsibility to the mortgage itself.  The result?  Mortgages handed out to those who couldn&#39;t pay.  The Bush administration loved it &#8211; the bloated housing &#39;boom&#39; in fact camoflaged the fact that the economy was in a shambles.  And there&#39;s more to come.  In respect to the &#39;lame stream media&#39;, we have to go back to the economists who are mostly linked to mainstream capitalist thinktanks, and who therefore have a stake in pretending the house of cards is still standing.  Get ready for the real crash, losers.</p>
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		<title>By: JINGOIST</title>
		<link>http://frontpagemag.com/2009/12/09/stimulus-3-0-by-jacob-laksin/comment-page-1/#comment-8607</link>
		<dc:creator>JINGOIST</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Dec 2009 00:35:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The headline here is Obama Hints At Spending Unused TARP Money To Boost Jobs. It seems that there are HUNDREDS OF BILLIONS left over for Obie to spend on his political friends. Say, for instance that Hillary Rotten Clinton owed 6 million dollars to a pollster...Let&#039;s have the taxpayer pick that up.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.domain-b.com/economy/worldeconomy/20091208_barack_obama.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.domain-b.com/economy/worldeconomy/20...&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Like all things Obama, don&#039;t listen to the lies, use common sense and experience and you&#039;re far more likely to arrive at the truth of the matter. First off, when the Obama Administration took over the TARP program they started strong-arming banks/mortgage lenders and converted preferred stocks to common stocks (voting stocks) in a blatant bid to control those banks. IOW they changed the rules after the LOANS were made. Some institutions were &quot;forced&quot; to take bailout funds by the Feds. (links are available).&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;To a large extent the same crooked tactics were used by the Administration where the auto companies were concerned. Eat your heart out Hugo Chavez! You only WISH you had this much chutzpah!&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;So what was the endgame for Obama? What is he after? To start with, you have to know who he is. Barack Obama is a fascist. He&#039;s using taxpayer funds to leverage control of corporate entities such as GM, Chrysler, the banks that took bailout LOANS, etc. without much regard for contract law or propriety. He&#039;s seizing control of capitalist entities while leaving them largely intact.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;So he has this &quot;slush fund&quot; of 700 billion dollars, and he has a two prong approach:&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;1. Make as many loans as possible, as quickly as possible and EXERT control ASAP. Use &quot;stress tests&quot; on the banks against their will if necessary. DO NOT allow the borrowers to pay that money back quickly, use any excuse necessary. What&#039;s the purpose of all of this? The purpose is to make it as painful as possible for future potential T.A.R.P. borrowers, thereby leaving you in control of a HUGE unspent pile of money (TARP funds).&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;2. Use the unspent TARP funds to buy the election of Democrats in 2010 and 2012. Call it job creation if you want or Dem seats &quot;created and or saved.&quot; The devil&#039;s in the details here.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The whole thing&#039;s rather clever I&#039;d say. Too bad that I&#039;m not talking about Venezuela.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The headline here is Obama Hints At Spending Unused TARP Money To Boost Jobs. It seems that there are HUNDREDS OF BILLIONS left over for Obie to spend on his political friends. Say, for instance that Hillary Rotten Clinton owed 6 million dollars to a pollster&#8230;Let&#39;s have the taxpayer pick that up.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.domain-b.com/economy/worldeconomy/20091208_barack_obama.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.domain-b.com/economy/worldeconomy/20&#8230;</a></p>
<p>Like all things Obama, don&#39;t listen to the lies, use common sense and experience and you&#39;re far more likely to arrive at the truth of the matter. First off, when the Obama Administration took over the TARP program they started strong-arming banks/mortgage lenders and converted preferred stocks to common stocks (voting stocks) in a blatant bid to control those banks. IOW they changed the rules after the LOANS were made. Some institutions were &#8220;forced&#8221; to take bailout funds by the Feds. (links are available).</p>
<p>To a large extent the same crooked tactics were used by the Administration where the auto companies were concerned. Eat your heart out Hugo Chavez! You only WISH you had this much chutzpah!</p>
<p>So what was the endgame for Obama? What is he after? To start with, you have to know who he is. Barack Obama is a fascist. He&#39;s using taxpayer funds to leverage control of corporate entities such as GM, Chrysler, the banks that took bailout LOANS, etc. without much regard for contract law or propriety. He&#39;s seizing control of capitalist entities while leaving them largely intact.</p>
<p>So he has this &#8220;slush fund&#8221; of 700 billion dollars, and he has a two prong approach:</p>
<p>1. Make as many loans as possible, as quickly as possible and EXERT control ASAP. Use &#8220;stress tests&#8221; on the banks against their will if necessary. DO NOT allow the borrowers to pay that money back quickly, use any excuse necessary. What&#39;s the purpose of all of this? The purpose is to make it as painful as possible for future potential T.A.R.P. borrowers, thereby leaving you in control of a HUGE unspent pile of money (TARP funds).</p>
<p>2. Use the unspent TARP funds to buy the election of Democrats in 2010 and 2012. Call it job creation if you want or Dem seats &#8220;created and or saved.&#8221; The devil&#39;s in the details here.</p>
<p>The whole thing&#39;s rather clever I&#39;d say. Too bad that I&#39;m not talking about Venezuela.</p>
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		<title>By: bls12</title>
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		<dc:creator>bls12</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Dec 2009 00:09:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Apparently left-over money burns a hole in his pocket.</description>
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		<title>By: USMCSniper</title>
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		<dc:creator>USMCSniper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Dec 2009 16:10:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The only way government can induce sustainable economic expansion is to reduce the taxes and regulations that inhibit productive activity. That will increase the incentives for productive activity, and in effect are the opposite of government spending.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;What is necessary is a change in the returns to work and investment — for example, a reduction in the tax rate faced by workers and investors. If the government gives you a $500 or $5000 tax credit or rebate, there is no incentive to change your behavior. But if the government reduces your (for example) income tax rate from 10% to 5% or 33% to 28%, you are keeping more of what you earn – which means it’s more worth your trouble to earn it.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Economist Alex Tabarrok has the clever idea of reducing everybody’s tax rate substantially – for all income above whatever they earned last year. This would have a strong stimulus impact – by encouraging people to work more hours, tax second jobs, or (re-)enter the labor force. This would increase production and induce economic expansion without any use of taxpayer funds, and without replacing one type of production with another.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;That’s the sort of creative ideas we need right now, rather than a repeat of the stimulus spending approach that has failed every time its been tried.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The only way government can induce sustainable economic expansion is to reduce the taxes and regulations that inhibit productive activity. That will increase the incentives for productive activity, and in effect are the opposite of government spending.</p>
<p>What is necessary is a change in the returns to work and investment — for example, a reduction in the tax rate faced by workers and investors. If the government gives you a $500 or $5000 tax credit or rebate, there is no incentive to change your behavior. But if the government reduces your (for example) income tax rate from 10% to 5% or 33% to 28%, you are keeping more of what you earn – which means it’s more worth your trouble to earn it.</p>
<p>Economist Alex Tabarrok has the clever idea of reducing everybody’s tax rate substantially – for all income above whatever they earned last year. This would have a strong stimulus impact – by encouraging people to work more hours, tax second jobs, or (re-)enter the labor force. This would increase production and induce economic expansion without any use of taxpayer funds, and without replacing one type of production with another.</p>
<p>That’s the sort of creative ideas we need right now, rather than a repeat of the stimulus spending approach that has failed every time its been tried.</p>
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		<title>By: BS77</title>
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		<dc:creator>BS77</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Dec 2009 15:41:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We are over ten trillion in debt, we owe China a trillion, some sixteen million Americans are out of work, millions of homes are foreclosed, banks are failing, we have a directionless, money burning bunch of liberals guessing what to do...people who have never run a corporation or a large business.....some of whom have never worked a REAL job in their lives....throwing a billion here, a billion there without a clue, continuing to enable countless third world illegal and legal immigrants to enter the US....This is a DISASTER, but the lame stream media doesn&#039;t issue a whisper of warning.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We are over ten trillion in debt, we owe China a trillion, some sixteen million Americans are out of work, millions of homes are foreclosed, banks are failing, we have a directionless, money burning bunch of liberals guessing what to do&#8230;people who have never run a corporation or a large business&#8230;..some of whom have never worked a REAL job in their lives&#8230;.throwing a billion here, a billion there without a clue, continuing to enable countless third world illegal and legal immigrants to enter the US&#8230;.This is a DISASTER, but the lame stream media doesn&#39;t issue a whisper of warning.</p>
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		<title>By: thinker1</title>
		<link>http://frontpagemag.com/2009/12/09/stimulus-3-0-by-jacob-laksin/comment-page-1/#comment-8508</link>
		<dc:creator>thinker1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Dec 2009 12:50:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>1.This is United States of America and its WH, not an economic debate/guessing team. Maybe it&#039;s time to listen to real experts?&lt;br&gt;2.  Our GDP is bastardized now. Some stocks up?............. MEANINGLESS!!!! Americans do not get pay, only Chinese, Mexicans, etc.&lt;br&gt;3. Harry Reid, grow up, stop using infantile arguments! We are not idiots - YOU ARE!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>1.This is United States of America and its WH, not an economic debate/guessing team. Maybe it&#39;s time to listen to real experts?<br />2.  Our GDP is bastardized now. Some stocks up?&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;. MEANINGLESS!!!! Americans do not get pay, only Chinese, Mexicans, etc.<br />3. Harry Reid, grow up, stop using infantile arguments! We are not idiots &#8211; YOU ARE!</p>
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		<title>By: CowboyUp</title>
		<link>http://frontpagemag.com/2009/12/09/stimulus-3-0-by-jacob-laksin/comment-page-1/#comment-8501</link>
		<dc:creator>CowboyUp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Dec 2009 11:51:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why bother calling dp political payoffs, shoring up government jobs, and paying people not to work an economic &#039;stimulus,&#039; when it isn&#039;t.    It&#039;s like bleeding a sick person and calling it medicine.   People are starting to notice hussein&#039;s a scratched record that has no clue.   Everything is someone else&#039;s fault, and he acts like the job was forced on him or something.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why bother calling dp political payoffs, shoring up government jobs, and paying people not to work an economic &#39;stimulus,&#39; when it isn&#39;t.    It&#39;s like bleeding a sick person and calling it medicine.   People are starting to notice hussein&#39;s a scratched record that has no clue.   Everything is someone else&#39;s fault, and he acts like the job was forced on him or something.</p>
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		<title>By: keithrage</title>
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		<dc:creator>keithrage</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Dec 2009 11:16:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great photo of the puppet at work, I would like to see the actual script on his prompter.(look serious, deepen voice) &quot;All our problems are caused by republicans&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great photo of the puppet at work, I would like to see the actual script on his prompter.(look serious, deepen voice) &#8220;All our problems are caused by republicans&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Robert Bernier</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robert Bernier</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Dec 2009 09:07:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow!  Read this one.  It is really good.  And this gentleman says it just like it is.  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt; This venerable and much honored WW II vet is well known in Hawaii&lt;br&gt;for his seventy-plus years of service to patriotic organizations and causes all over the country. A humble man without a political bone in his body, he has never spoken out before about a government official, until now. He dictated this letter  to a friend, signed it and mailed it to the president.  Consult :  &lt;a href=&quot;http://xrl.us/bgeewc&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://xrl.us/bgeewc&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow!  Read this one.  It is really good.  And this gentleman says it just like it is.  </p>
<p> This venerable and much honored WW II vet is well known in Hawaii<br />for his seventy-plus years of service to patriotic organizations and causes all over the country. A humble man without a political bone in his body, he has never spoken out before about a government official, until now. He dictated this letter  to a friend, signed it and mailed it to the president.  Consult :  <a href="http://xrl.us/bgeewc" rel="nofollow">http://xrl.us/bgeewc</a></p>
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