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	<title>Comments on: Have We Stopped Trying to Make Good People? &#8211; by Dennis Prager</title>
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		<title>By: phentermine</title>
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		<dc:creator>phentermine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Dec 2011 12:00:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good people will always put other people&#039;s interest on top of theirs. They will care for other people from all angles. In short, they are not selfish at all. Where can we find such a person nowadays? </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good people will always put other people&#039;s interest on top of theirs. They will care for other people from all angles. In short, they are not selfish at all. Where can we find such a person nowadays?</p>
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		<title>By: Richard</title>
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		<dc:creator>Richard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Dec 2009 20:09:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good people are people who behave in such a way as to enhance the soul of others and do not damage the soul of others.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Now what is important is that the final arbitrator of whether a person&#039;s soul is enhanced or damaged is the person whose soul is being affected. The recipient is the judge not the giver.  Why this is important is history has shown much cruelty by people who believe they know what is right and then impose it often very cruelly and with much force on others. (Inquisition, Stalin, Iran, Mao ....)&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;This changes the debate to what do we as individuals have to do to enhance peoples&#039; souls and not damage them. It&#039;s about giving and not just taking. It&#039;s about respect and not putting down. It&#039;s about freedom and not control.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good people are people who behave in such a way as to enhance the soul of others and do not damage the soul of others.</p>
<p>Now what is important is that the final arbitrator of whether a person&#39;s soul is enhanced or damaged is the person whose soul is being affected. The recipient is the judge not the giver.  Why this is important is history has shown much cruelty by people who believe they know what is right and then impose it often very cruelly and with much force on others. (Inquisition, Stalin, Iran, Mao &#8230;.)</p>
<p>This changes the debate to what do we as individuals have to do to enhance peoples&#39; souls and not damage them. It&#39;s about giving and not just taking. It&#39;s about respect and not putting down. It&#39;s about freedom and not control.</p>
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		<title>By: brimp</title>
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		<dc:creator>brimp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Dec 2009 07:42:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There are differences between Protestants, Catholics, and Jews.  100 years ago the majority (Protestant) used their power to diminish Catholics and Jews.  With the rise of the secular religions of socialism and humanism, the differences between the Protestants, Catholics, and Jews have been deemphasized with the creation of the super tribe of Judeo-Christians.  The collectivists have made a pact with Islam to fight their rival Judeo-Christian tribe.  The main difference between these super tribes are that the collectivists believe that they can punish non-believers here on earth for their heresy while the Judeo-Christians, in general, will let the Creator assign punishments after you die.</description>
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		<title>By: goddad</title>
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		<dc:creator>goddad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Dec 2009 07:02:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You are right, in that Jewish culture isn&#039;t mainstream. But you are being cynical if you don&#039;t believe the large influence, Jewish values have had on American society. That is not to say that other religions haven&#039;t. Yes we are secular by culture. That is what makes us the freest country in the world. &lt;br&gt;The term &quot;judeo-christian&quot; has been around for a long time, but just recently revised due to the erosion of our society, which can&#039;t be denied. &lt;br&gt;There has been so much disrespect for the laws and principles that are the foundation of our country, which was pretty good for about 200 years. A lot of those laws were based on the founding fathers of this country who had &quot;judeo-christian&quot; values as the foundation. &lt;br&gt;You have to consider that Washington, Jefferson, etc. did not have tv&#039;s, cars, or even toilets back then. Life changes and so things need to change. But some principles have to stay the same for our own sake and survival.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You are right, in that Jewish culture isn&#39;t mainstream. But you are being cynical if you don&#39;t believe the large influence, Jewish values have had on American society. That is not to say that other religions haven&#39;t. Yes we are secular by culture. That is what makes us the freest country in the world. <br />The term &#8220;judeo-christian&#8221; has been around for a long time, but just recently revised due to the erosion of our society, which can&#39;t be denied. <br />There has been so much disrespect for the laws and principles that are the foundation of our country, which was pretty good for about 200 years. A lot of those laws were based on the founding fathers of this country who had &#8220;judeo-christian&#8221; values as the foundation. <br />You have to consider that Washington, Jefferson, etc. did not have tv&#39;s, cars, or even toilets back then. Life changes and so things need to change. But some principles have to stay the same for our own sake and survival.</p>
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		<title>By: trickyblain</title>
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		<dc:creator>trickyblain</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Dec 2009 06:21:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>All I am saying is that Jewish culture is not a major part of the  &lt;br&gt;American mainstream - as prager suggests. The very term &quot;judeo- &lt;br&gt;christian&quot; is nonsensical to me -- very recently contrived after  &lt;br&gt;millenia of percecution and conflict.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;This is not to disrespect Judaism nor christianity - I live in a half- &lt;br&gt;Jewish household.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All I am saying is that Jewish culture is not a major part of the  <br />American mainstream &#8211; as prager suggests. The very term &#8220;judeo- <br />christian&#8221; is nonsensical to me &#8212; very recently contrived after  <br />millenia of percecution and conflict.</p>
<p>This is not to disrespect Judaism nor christianity &#8211; I live in a half- <br />Jewish household.</p>
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		<title>By: goddad</title>
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		<dc:creator>goddad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Dec 2009 06:08:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A Jewish holiday in that you light candles at sunset, say a couple of prayers and celebrate at night. Yes, it is observed, but you don&#039;t necessarily need to miss work for it.</description>
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		<title>By: trickyblain</title>
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		<dc:creator>trickyblain</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Dec 2009 05:56:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is a Jewish holiday- festival of lights and miraculous candles and  &lt;br&gt;temples. I guess Passover isn&#039;t religious either.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is a Jewish holiday- festival of lights and miraculous candles and  <br />temples. I guess Passover isn&#39;t religious either.</p>
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		<title>By: goddad</title>
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		<dc:creator>goddad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Dec 2009 05:47:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Trickybain,&lt;br&gt;Guess what. Chanukah is not a religious holiday. There is no need to take off unless you want to fool your boss. You are all talk and all crap.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Trickybain,<br />Guess what. Chanukah is not a religious holiday. There is no need to take off unless you want to fool your boss. You are all talk and all crap.</p>
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		<title>By: goddad</title>
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		<dc:creator>goddad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Dec 2009 05:26:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You are trying to compare a bible of ancient history with present day understanding. Yes, the bible has many bad things in it. But the main thing you have to believe is that the major values that were accented things that all of mankind needed to be able to value each other with. Each religious group has its own interpretation. But I suggest before you base your opinion on conjecture based on public opinion, you might want to do some actual research and find some facts of your own. &lt;br&gt;Just a thought</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You are trying to compare a bible of ancient history with present day understanding. Yes, the bible has many bad things in it. But the main thing you have to believe is that the major values that were accented things that all of mankind needed to be able to value each other with. Each religious group has its own interpretation. But I suggest before you base your opinion on conjecture based on public opinion, you might want to do some actual research and find some facts of your own. <br />Just a thought</p>
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		<title>By: goddad</title>
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		<dc:creator>goddad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Dec 2009 05:13:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Brimp,&lt;br&gt;I know this is difficult to understand. But, maybe when you grow up some day you will be able to make a judgement that has some values involved.&lt;br&gt;Good luck on that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Brimp,<br />I know this is difficult to understand. But, maybe when you grow up some day you will be able to make a judgement that has some values involved.<br />Good luck on that.</p>
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		<title>By: goddad</title>
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		<dc:creator>goddad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Dec 2009 05:08:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In most of your examples, they don&#039;t fall under questions of evil. Would you feel better if tea party protesters were called evil. Or, how about the climate scientists opposing global warming as a done deal. Are they evil? Are people who want to protect unborn children evil. &lt;br&gt;Maybe, you would have the government control all aspects of your life. Determining when to use energy, what kind of food you can eat. who gets to use health care, and how much to pay for it, what kind of car you can drive. Don&#039;t forget the flat screen tvs that you can&#039;t have. &lt;br&gt;I don&#039;t mind having Muslims living next to me. But I might have a problem if they cut my neighbors head off. Yea.  I believe that my values might draw the line at that and call it evil. &lt;br&gt;Do you think that maybe you might make a value judgement about that?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In most of your examples, they don&#39;t fall under questions of evil. Would you feel better if tea party protesters were called evil. Or, how about the climate scientists opposing global warming as a done deal. Are they evil? Are people who want to protect unborn children evil. <br />Maybe, you would have the government control all aspects of your life. Determining when to use energy, what kind of food you can eat. who gets to use health care, and how much to pay for it, what kind of car you can drive. Don&#39;t forget the flat screen tvs that you can&#39;t have. <br />I don&#39;t mind having Muslims living next to me. But I might have a problem if they cut my neighbors head off. Yea.  I believe that my values might draw the line at that and call it evil. <br />Do you think that maybe you might make a value judgement about that?</p>
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		<title>By: Tish</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tish</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Dec 2009 04:45:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A large part of the problem is that only half of us even want to make good people.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A large part of the problem is that only half of us even want to make good people.</p>
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		<title>By: trickyblain</title>
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		<dc:creator>trickyblain</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Dec 2009 00:37:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Excellent response!</description>
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		<title>By: LindaRivera</title>
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		<dc:creator>LindaRivera</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Dec 2009 23:39:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Judeo-Christian America and indeed, Western civilization, is based on the Bible and G-D&#039;s unchanging Laws.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Hostility to Christianity has existed in the American public school system for many years. Islam is the big favorite of elites, and is being aggressively promoted  to school children, sometimes without parental knowledge and against the will of U.S. parents. Indoctrination of America&#039;s children into the military, totalitarian &#039;religion&#039; of Islam must stop!&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt; FOX NEWS RADIO&lt;br&gt; &lt;br&gt;Second Graders Sing About Allah?&lt;br&gt;14 December 2009&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;A battle over religion is brewing in central Indiana after a public school wanted second graders to sing a song declaring, “Allah is God.” The phrase was removed just before the performance after a national conservative group launched a protest.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The principal of Lantern Road Elementary School in Fishers, IN, said they were trying to teach inclusiveness through their holiday production. It included references to Christmas, Hanukkah, Ramadan, Las Posadas and Kwanzaa. However, no other deity, other than Allah, was referenced in the show.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;“It went off…without a hitch,” Danielle Thompson told the Indianapolis Star. “Several families thought it was a nice program.”&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;But others did not – especially David Hogan. His daughter came home with a copy of the lyrics just days before the production. Hogan, a Christian, told the American Family Association, a conservative advocacy group, that he was deeply concerned to learn that his daughter had been singing, “Allah is God.”&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Here’s what the children were assigned to sing:&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;“Allah is God, we recall at dawn,&lt;br&gt;Praying ‘til night during Ramadan&lt;br&gt;At this joyful time we pray happiness for you,&lt;br&gt;Allah be with you all your life through.”&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;But when it came time to perform the “Christian” part of Christmas, children were assigned to say:&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;“I didn’t know there was a little boy at the manger. What child is this?&lt;br&gt;I’m not sure if there was a little boy or not.&lt;br&gt;Then why did you paint one on your nativity window?&lt;br&gt;I just thought if there was a little boy, I’d like to know exactly what he (sic) say.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Micah Clark, executive director of the Indiana AFA, launched an Internet protest once he heard about the allegations. “What surprised me here is that we’ve had a secular scrubbing of Christmas for so long and the school apparently didn’t see the problem with kids singing to Allah,” he told FOX News Radio. “You won’t even mention Jesus and you’re going to force my child to sing about Allah?&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.foxnewsradio.com/2009/12/14/public-schoo-kids-singing-to-allah/#ixzz0Zig35H9B&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.foxnewsradio.com/2009/12/14/public-s...&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Judeo-Christian America and indeed, Western civilization, is based on the Bible and G-D&#39;s unchanging Laws.</p>
<p>Hostility to Christianity has existed in the American public school system for many years. Islam is the big favorite of elites, and is being aggressively promoted  to school children, sometimes without parental knowledge and against the will of U.S. parents. Indoctrination of America&#39;s children into the military, totalitarian &#39;religion&#39; of Islam must stop!</p>
<p> FOX NEWS RADIO</p>
<p>Second Graders Sing About Allah?<br />14 December 2009</p>
<p>A battle over religion is brewing in central Indiana after a public school wanted second graders to sing a song declaring, “Allah is God.” The phrase was removed just before the performance after a national conservative group launched a protest.</p>
<p>The principal of Lantern Road Elementary School in Fishers, IN, said they were trying to teach inclusiveness through their holiday production. It included references to Christmas, Hanukkah, Ramadan, Las Posadas and Kwanzaa. However, no other deity, other than Allah, was referenced in the show.</p>
<p>“It went off…without a hitch,” Danielle Thompson told the Indianapolis Star. “Several families thought it was a nice program.”</p>
<p>But others did not – especially David Hogan. His daughter came home with a copy of the lyrics just days before the production. Hogan, a Christian, told the American Family Association, a conservative advocacy group, that he was deeply concerned to learn that his daughter had been singing, “Allah is God.”</p>
<p>Here’s what the children were assigned to sing:</p>
<p>“Allah is God, we recall at dawn,<br />Praying ‘til night during Ramadan<br />At this joyful time we pray happiness for you,<br />Allah be with you all your life through.”</p>
<p>But when it came time to perform the “Christian” part of Christmas, children were assigned to say:</p>
<p>“I didn’t know there was a little boy at the manger. What child is this?<br />I’m not sure if there was a little boy or not.<br />Then why did you paint one on your nativity window?<br />I just thought if there was a little boy, I’d like to know exactly what he (sic) say.</p>
<p>Micah Clark, executive director of the Indiana AFA, launched an Internet protest once he heard about the allegations. “What surprised me here is that we’ve had a secular scrubbing of Christmas for so long and the school apparently didn’t see the problem with kids singing to Allah,” he told FOX News Radio. “You won’t even mention Jesus and you’re going to force my child to sing about Allah?<br /><a href="http://www.foxnewsradio.com/2009/12/14/public-schoo-kids-singing-to-allah/#ixzz0Zig35H9B" rel="nofollow">http://www.foxnewsradio.com/2009/12/14/public-s&#8230;</a></p>
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		<title>By: trickyblain</title>
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		<dc:creator>trickyblain</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Dec 2009 23:06:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Prager is, as always, a simpleton trying to dress himself up as a sort of profound intellectual. And he&#039;s terrible at it. The Enlightenment spawned the notion that humankind is inherently good? Right. Thomas Hobbes was an optimist about life being &quot;nasty, brutish, and short&quot; in the natural state. John Locke thought (rightfully) that the best political system is derived when it is based on individual self-interest, and that individual self-interest serves the common good through widespread wealth. These folks were not much for the goodness of human nature.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;How is the US an amalgamation of Jewish and Christian cultures, let alone the only nation that is so? I didn&#039;t get time off for Chanukah last week.  What US cities have Jewish names? Who was our last Jewish president? It&#039;s no more an amalgamation of Jewish and Christian than it is an amalgamation of Christian and Buddhist. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Poverty does not cause crime. But the vast majority of criminals happen to live in poor communities. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Prager&#039;s blustering stupidity is best illustrated by his insinuation that &quot;conservatives&quot; are more likely to fight bullies and sit next to overweight children in school cafeterias. That somehow, parents&#039; political beliefs instill righteous behavior in their children. If that&#039;s the case, why was George W Bush an insufferable asshole to others when in school? Why was Al Gore considered a good guy?  On the flip side, why were John Kerry and Bill Clinton seen as jerks?&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Prager talks about individuals and responsibility, then turns it around and goes all groupthink (conservatives = good, pure, moral  Liberals = hedonistic radicals). It&#039;s a common logical fallacy that permeates all of his work.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Good people come from good, caring backgrounds that are grounded in reality. The come from liberal parents, conservative parents, Jewish parents, Christian parents and agnostic parents. One group does not have a monopoly &quot;good people.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Prager is, as always, a simpleton trying to dress himself up as a sort of profound intellectual. And he&#39;s terrible at it. The Enlightenment spawned the notion that humankind is inherently good? Right. Thomas Hobbes was an optimist about life being &#8220;nasty, brutish, and short&#8221; in the natural state. John Locke thought (rightfully) that the best political system is derived when it is based on individual self-interest, and that individual self-interest serves the common good through widespread wealth. These folks were not much for the goodness of human nature.</p>
<p>How is the US an amalgamation of Jewish and Christian cultures, let alone the only nation that is so? I didn&#39;t get time off for Chanukah last week.  What US cities have Jewish names? Who was our last Jewish president? It&#39;s no more an amalgamation of Jewish and Christian than it is an amalgamation of Christian and Buddhist. </p>
<p>Poverty does not cause crime. But the vast majority of criminals happen to live in poor communities. </p>
<p>Prager&#39;s blustering stupidity is best illustrated by his insinuation that &#8220;conservatives&#8221; are more likely to fight bullies and sit next to overweight children in school cafeterias. That somehow, parents&#39; political beliefs instill righteous behavior in their children. If that&#39;s the case, why was George W Bush an insufferable asshole to others when in school? Why was Al Gore considered a good guy?  On the flip side, why were John Kerry and Bill Clinton seen as jerks?</p>
<p>Prager talks about individuals and responsibility, then turns it around and goes all groupthink (conservatives = good, pure, moral  Liberals = hedonistic radicals). It&#39;s a common logical fallacy that permeates all of his work.</p>
<p>Good people come from good, caring backgrounds that are grounded in reality. The come from liberal parents, conservative parents, Jewish parents, Christian parents and agnostic parents. One group does not have a monopoly &#8220;good people.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: 080</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Dec 2009 22:11:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I recommend the movie entitled &quot;Groundhog Day&quot;.  It is not a new film and seems to have passed unremarked.  It addresses the plroblem of turnjing up one&#039;s nose at American culture.  The good people are there.  One ignores them at a price.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I recommend the movie entitled &#8220;Groundhog Day&#8221;.  It is not a new film and seems to have passed unremarked.  It addresses the plroblem of turnjing up one&#39;s nose at American culture.  The good people are there.  One ignores them at a price.</p>
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		<title>By: bmw50</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Dec 2009 18:30:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ahh, how do we determine what is moral, what is good, what is virtuous? God&#039;s word; the Ten Commandments and Jesus&#039; expansion of them.&lt;br&gt;Man cannot and should not attempt to set the rules for mankind; they must be higher and better than man. Rules must be perfect even though man is not and the only source for perfect rules is our Creator. Read what Benjamin Franklin, John Adams, Jefferson and Washington say about the link between freedom and virtue and the importance of religion in establishing virtue. &lt;a href=&quot;http://brushfires-of-freedom.com&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;brushfires-of-freedom.com&lt;/a&gt; is a good site to read their comments.&lt;br&gt;Dennis did a great job making a critical point of the problem we are facing in this country.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ahh, how do we determine what is moral, what is good, what is virtuous? God&#39;s word; the Ten Commandments and Jesus&#39; expansion of them.<br />Man cannot and should not attempt to set the rules for mankind; they must be higher and better than man. Rules must be perfect even though man is not and the only source for perfect rules is our Creator. Read what Benjamin Franklin, John Adams, Jefferson and Washington say about the link between freedom and virtue and the importance of religion in establishing virtue. <a href="http://brushfires-of-freedom.com" rel="nofollow">brushfires-of-freedom.com</a> is a good site to read their comments.<br />Dennis did a great job making a critical point of the problem we are facing in this country.</p>
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		<title>By: Ken S</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ken S</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Dec 2009 18:02:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Excellent article, which points to society&#039;s need to rouse from its comatose state in the tangled web of relativism, and realize that there are absolutes.  Morality is impossible otherwise.  These absoloutes are indeed the Judeo-Christian bedrock upon which our nation was founded.  The founders knew and expressed that we could not long survive without them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Excellent article, which points to society&#39;s need to rouse from its comatose state in the tangled web of relativism, and realize that there are absolutes.  Morality is impossible otherwise.  These absoloutes are indeed the Judeo-Christian bedrock upon which our nation was founded.  The founders knew and expressed that we could not long survive without them.</p>
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		<title>By: roadlawyer</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Dec 2009 17:45:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Instead of contentiously debating what is &quot;good&quot; and what is &quot;evil&quot;, why don&#039;t we simply utilize what Christ told us was our duty here on earth - Love God with everything we are and love one another.  That seems simple enough once you realize that &quot;loving&quot; one another doesn&#039;t equate to giving everyone everything they could possibly want.  God gives us what we need according to his wants and once we realize that to live in His will is, in fact, &quot;good&quot;, we won&#039;t need to search for silly definitions from the Right or the Left.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Instead of contentiously debating what is &#8220;good&#8221; and what is &#8220;evil&#8221;, why don&#39;t we simply utilize what Christ told us was our duty here on earth &#8211; Love God with everything we are and love one another.  That seems simple enough once you realize that &#8220;loving&#8221; one another doesn&#39;t equate to giving everyone everything they could possibly want.  God gives us what we need according to his wants and once we realize that to live in His will is, in fact, &#8220;good&#8221;, we won&#39;t need to search for silly definitions from the Right or the Left.</p>
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		<title>By: USMCSniper</title>
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		<dc:creator>USMCSniper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Dec 2009 17:36:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Philosphy is not subordinated to the handmaiden of theology anymore than astronomy is subordinated to the handmaoden of astrology.  Do not look to any religion for mora;l values as all have a long record of evil atrocities against mankind.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Ethics as a branch of philosophy, is a code of values to rationally guide man’s choices and actions, is an objective, metaphysical necessity for a man’s survival. A proper ethics gives practical guidance to help people think and direct their lives. Ethics aids a man in defining and attaining his values, goals, and happiness. A man needs ethics because he requires values to survive. The telos of ethics is a person’s own survival and happiness. The realm of ethics includes those matters that are potentially under a man’s control. A man’s uncoerced volition is necessary to have an objective theory of morality. He can discover values only through a volitional process of reason.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Rational moral principles guide us toward values and are essential for achieving moral integrity, character, and happiness. Living by rational principles tends to make principled thought and actions habitual. When we habitually act on sound moral principles we develop virtues and incorporate our moral orientation into our character. All virtues are connected to the objective requirements of man’s survival and flourishing. Moral principles are needed because the standard of survival and flourishing is too abstract. To act in a concrete situation, a man needs to have some basic view of what he is acting for and how he should act. Because actions are subsumed under principles, it is imperative to adopt and automatize good principles. Acting on principles cultivates corresponding virtues which, in turn, leads to value attainment, flourishing, and happiness.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;A person uses his free will to determine his focus and how logical to be. Though the employment of his free will, a man forms and selects the principles that underlie his actions. Focusing one’s mind, staying in focus, thinking, and critically assessing one’s principles includes introspection to identify and assess the principles that one has automatized.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;A man who thinks in principles makes himself aware of the best means of attaining his ends in the full context of his life. Moral principles are true in a delimited context. Recognizing the moral context of a situation precedes one’s chosen actions in that situation. A man should not evade relevant knowledge nor drop context when he acts. Moral principles are absolute within the context in which they are defined and applied. Of course, some cases will fall outside the context in which they are defined and applicable. It is therefore essential for a person to validate his principles and to understand the contexts that give rise to these principles.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Thinking is needed in order to understand the facts of a situation and to apply appropriate principles to the circumstances. For example, honesty, as a principle, states that it is immoral to misrepresent the truth in a context in which a person’s goal is to obtain values from others. It follows that in a different context in which a person is attempting to use deceit or force in order to gain values from an individual, it is appropriate for the wronged individual to select self-defense as his appropriate principle instead of honesty. The context is different from one calling for honesty on his part. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Honesty is an essential principle because the proper end of a man’s actions is his own objective flourishing. The moral appropriateness of honesty is grounded in metaphysics. A person must focus on what reality requires if he is to attain his ends. A person should tell the relevant truth. What the relevant truth is depends on the type of relationship a person has with the individual with whom he is dealing. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;In Rand’s biocentric ethics moral behavior is judged in relation to achieving specific ends with the final end being an individual’s life or flourishing. The act of deciding necessitates the investigation of how an action pertains to what is best for one’s own life. This is not done in a duty-based ethic that is limited to precepts and rules. In a duty-oriented ethical system rules or duties are placed between a person and reality. In a biocentric ethics what is moral is the understood and the chosen rather than the imposed and the obeyed. Principles are valuable ethical concepts that do not require imperatives or obligations as their justification.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Altruist moralities hold that morality is painful and difficult and involves ideas such as self-abnegation and self-sacrifice. Contrariwise, an egoist morality, such as the one found in Objectivism, maintains that morality is natural, attractive, and enjoyable. Of course, there is work involved in staying in focus, acquiring knowledge, formulating moral principles, and applying them in the appropriate contexts. Morality is demanding but it is also indispensable and rewarding. Remember, the purpose of morality is to enjoy life, flourish, and be happy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Philosphy is not subordinated to the handmaiden of theology anymore than astronomy is subordinated to the handmaoden of astrology.  Do not look to any religion for mora;l values as all have a long record of evil atrocities against mankind.</p>
<p>Ethics as a branch of philosophy, is a code of values to rationally guide man’s choices and actions, is an objective, metaphysical necessity for a man’s survival. A proper ethics gives practical guidance to help people think and direct their lives. Ethics aids a man in defining and attaining his values, goals, and happiness. A man needs ethics because he requires values to survive. The telos of ethics is a person’s own survival and happiness. The realm of ethics includes those matters that are potentially under a man’s control. A man’s uncoerced volition is necessary to have an objective theory of morality. He can discover values only through a volitional process of reason.</p>
<p>Rational moral principles guide us toward values and are essential for achieving moral integrity, character, and happiness. Living by rational principles tends to make principled thought and actions habitual. When we habitually act on sound moral principles we develop virtues and incorporate our moral orientation into our character. All virtues are connected to the objective requirements of man’s survival and flourishing. Moral principles are needed because the standard of survival and flourishing is too abstract. To act in a concrete situation, a man needs to have some basic view of what he is acting for and how he should act. Because actions are subsumed under principles, it is imperative to adopt and automatize good principles. Acting on principles cultivates corresponding virtues which, in turn, leads to value attainment, flourishing, and happiness.</p>
<p>A person uses his free will to determine his focus and how logical to be. Though the employment of his free will, a man forms and selects the principles that underlie his actions. Focusing one’s mind, staying in focus, thinking, and critically assessing one’s principles includes introspection to identify and assess the principles that one has automatized.</p>
<p>A man who thinks in principles makes himself aware of the best means of attaining his ends in the full context of his life. Moral principles are true in a delimited context. Recognizing the moral context of a situation precedes one’s chosen actions in that situation. A man should not evade relevant knowledge nor drop context when he acts. Moral principles are absolute within the context in which they are defined and applied. Of course, some cases will fall outside the context in which they are defined and applicable. It is therefore essential for a person to validate his principles and to understand the contexts that give rise to these principles.</p>
<p>Thinking is needed in order to understand the facts of a situation and to apply appropriate principles to the circumstances. For example, honesty, as a principle, states that it is immoral to misrepresent the truth in a context in which a person’s goal is to obtain values from others. It follows that in a different context in which a person is attempting to use deceit or force in order to gain values from an individual, it is appropriate for the wronged individual to select self-defense as his appropriate principle instead of honesty. The context is different from one calling for honesty on his part. </p>
<p>Honesty is an essential principle because the proper end of a man’s actions is his own objective flourishing. The moral appropriateness of honesty is grounded in metaphysics. A person must focus on what reality requires if he is to attain his ends. A person should tell the relevant truth. What the relevant truth is depends on the type of relationship a person has with the individual with whom he is dealing. </p>
<p>In Rand’s biocentric ethics moral behavior is judged in relation to achieving specific ends with the final end being an individual’s life or flourishing. The act of deciding necessitates the investigation of how an action pertains to what is best for one’s own life. This is not done in a duty-based ethic that is limited to precepts and rules. In a duty-oriented ethical system rules or duties are placed between a person and reality. In a biocentric ethics what is moral is the understood and the chosen rather than the imposed and the obeyed. Principles are valuable ethical concepts that do not require imperatives or obligations as their justification.</p>
<p>Altruist moralities hold that morality is painful and difficult and involves ideas such as self-abnegation and self-sacrifice. Contrariwise, an egoist morality, such as the one found in Objectivism, maintains that morality is natural, attractive, and enjoyable. Of course, there is work involved in staying in focus, acquiring knowledge, formulating moral principles, and applying them in the appropriate contexts. Morality is demanding but it is also indispensable and rewarding. Remember, the purpose of morality is to enjoy life, flourish, and be happy.</p>
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