Frontpage Interview’s guest today is Pamela Geller, founder, editor and publisher of the popular and award-winning weblog AtlasShrugs.com. She has won acclaim for her interviews with internationally renowned figures, including John Bolton, Geert Wilders, Bat Ye’or, Natan Sharansky, and many others, and has broken numerous important stories — notably the questionable sources of some of the financing of the Obama campaign. Her op-eds have been published in The Washington Times, The American Thinker, Israel National News, Frontpage Magazine, World Net Daily, and New Media Journal, among other publications. She is the co-author (with Robert Spencer) of the soon to be released, The Post-American Presidency: The Obama Administration’s War on America (forward by Ambassador John Bolton).
FP: Pamela Geller, welcome to Frontpage Interview.
The organization SIOE (Stop the Islamization of Europe) held a demonstration recently in Harrow, England. Tell us what happened and what it signified.
Geller: Thanks Jamie.
Last week, on December 13, Stop the Islamization of Europe (SIOE) held a protest rally in what can only be described as an Islamic fortress in the heart of Harrow, England. I strongly urged Jews to attend.
We are all aware of Islamic anti-Semitism and the toxic danger it poses to Jews. The promise of Jewish genocide is made “sacred” by Islamic texts such as the one in which Muhammad says that the end times will not come until the Muslims kill the Jews, and the Jews hide behind trees, which then cry out, “O Muslim, there is a Jew hiding behind me, come and kill him.”
The SIOE demonstration was against the building of a mosque there, and the larger issues of the advance of Sharia and Islamization in the United Kingdom. SIOE pointed out the words of the Prime Minister of Turkey, Recep Tayyip Erdogan: “The mosques are our barracks, the domes our helmets, the minarets our bayonets and Muslims our soldiers…”
Political parties, racist chanting, banners and placards, and totalitarian symbols such as Nazi swastikas, communist hammer and sickles, and the Islamic star and crescent were banned. The initial announcement of the demonstration asked those attending to bring one thousand Israeli flags, and said: “SIOE supports Israel’s right to defend itself against Islamist attempts to annihilate Jews.” The SIOE called on Jews living in London or within traveling distance of London to attend the demonstration, saying that:
“vile anti-Semitism is being preached in mosques across the world and almost certainly the one in your neighbourhood….Non-Jews are demonstrating on 13th December against the anti-Semitism being taught in mosques which goes unchallenged by politicians, the media and so-called ‘moderate’ Muslims. Jews cannot, in all conscience, leave it to non-Jews to protest on the behalf of Jews who are once again the world’s whipping boy.”
FP: And so Jews came out in full force?
Geller: No Jamie, they did not. The Community Security Trust (CST), a leading Jewish group in Britain, urged the Jewish community there not to support the demonstration. The CST said in a statement that it “has drawn attention to the Islamaphobic comments on SIOE’s website, and compared the group to the English Defence League, and the BNP’s Nick Griffin, who have attempted to gain support from Jews through pro-Israel and anti-Muslim statements…. A demonstration against Harrow mosque under the banner ‘Stop the Islamization of Europe,’ is as stupid and offensive as a demonstration against Harrow synagogue, under the banner ‘Stop the Zionization of Europe.’”
Once again leftist Jews were lying and deceiving to advance the aims of the enemies of Jews and Jewish life. Stephen Gash of SIOE responded: “I have stood several times in elections against the BNP and what they stand for. Equating synagogues to mosques is reprehensible in my view. When terrorists leave synagogues to blow up planes and tube trains then we at SIOE might reconsider our position. Until that happens we will continue to support Israel and the right of Jews to exist and to defend themselves.”
Rabbis attacked the SIOE campaign also. They said that SIOE’s “only purpose” was “to spread hatred and fear,” and wrote: “We share the desire of the Muslim community of Harrow to respect our mutual traditions, to learn from each other’s cultures and ways of life, and to live together in peace.” Even the Rabbis abandon Israel when the going gets rough. These morally ill rabbis have lost their basic instinct of self-preservation.
The Jewish Chronicle even went so far as to gloat when attendance was small. Did the Chronicle ask why so few people attended this demonstration in a town where the majority does not want this mosque? The majority knows what’s happening in their country and fear it. But the Chronicle did not restate the obvious – that people did not attend out of fear.
Did the Jewish Chronicle cover the Death to the Jews protests back in January? Does the Jewish Chronicle cover the ongoing jihad against the Jews? We know the answer.
FP: How do we interpret this phenomenon?
Geller: Much like the Jewish councils of World War II Germany that helped assist in what would become the extermination of the Jews, we are witnessing Jewish groups like the CST aiding and abetting Islamic jihad and Islamic anti-Semitism. I see the Muslim community doing nothing to expunge their own texts and their own teachings of the virulent Jew hatred that fills the Koran and Hadith.
Jewish history is littered with these collaborators. And we see them everywhere in our current environment. The failure of many Jews to stand up and fight this century’s Philistines after thousands of years of persecution is difficult to swallow. Can one deny that there is some kind of death wish present here?
And what I would like to ask is: when has the Muslim community ever stood against anti-Jewish protesters? Where were Muslims during the “Death to Jews” marches across the UK during the defensive war in Gaza? Where are the Muslim groups and Jewish groups demanding that Jew hatred be expunged from the Koran and Islamic teachings?
FP: What are your thoughts on this international cultural acceptance of Islamic anti-Semitism and simultaneous demonization of Israel?
Geller: The demonization of Israel is Jew hatred. On many levels, what is happening today is more dangerous than Nazism in the sense that Nazism was perpetrated covertly. What we are witnessing today is done overtly: anti-Zionism is a modern variation on an age-old hatred. The Nazis hid the extermination. Work camps were death camps but no one knew what was really going on behind those walls until the Nazis were defeated. Today the haters take to the streets and engage in death to Jews, death to Israel demonstrations across Europe and America. They dance and pass out sweets in the Muslim street when Jews are murdered. What’s so disturbing is that it is being done now under the aegis of the UN.
Caroline Glick said: “They [the UN] have been attacking us for more than 30 years. They express their hatred for us with their ‘solidarity’ with the Palestinian people. That, together with their declaration that Zionism is racism, shows that they have done everything they could to fight against us.” She said that the UN’s anti-Israel stance “is anti-Semitism for the modern age. The attempt to dismiss our legitimate rights is a type of anti-Semitism, and I see no difference between the anti-Semitism of today and that of the past.”
Glick recommended that Israel take “dramatic” action against anti-Semitism at the UN:
“We must attack the hypocrisy of the UN and the international community.”
This of course is not new. But America sanctioning such an abomination is new. The most troubling aspect of this was Obama joining the United Nations human rights council – which teems with the world’s worst human rights violators and Israel bashers.
FP: Your interpretation of the mindset of the Jewish collaborators?
Geller: They are like the Jewish councils of World War II Germany that helped assist in what would become the extermination of the Jews. But that is not fair to the Kapos. The Kapos had no choice, as morally repugnant as they were. These Jews, the Rabbis and Jewish lay leadership, are fighting the last war. Yet that war is over. All their handwringing over Nazis. That war is over. This enemy is here and, as I said earlier, much more dangerous on several realms. And this anti-Semitism is global, and still they do not see. The Koran’s hatred of the Jews is clear, and still they refuse to see. The vicious hatred of the Jews across the Muslim world, and still these Jews we are discussing refuse to see.
They tear into SIOE and counter jihad efforts, but never do they call the Muslims to task for their Jew-hating rhetoric, their death-to-the-Jews marches, their vile Jew-hating teachings, their relentless campaign against Israel, the Muslim Jew-hatred that is infecting Europe so much that Jews are fleeing in historic numbers.
These Jews think if they go along, if they get along, their enemies will spare them. Despite reality, they believe they can appeal to the enemy’s humanity, despite the lack of evidence of any such quality. These Jews avoid reality — at the risk of the most dire consequences.
FP: Pamela Geller, thank you for joining Frontpage Interview.
To see Frontpage’s series on Jewish Collaborators, click here.
To get the whole story on the psychology of Jews who aid and abet those who wish to annihilate them, read Jamie Glazov’s new book, United in Hate: The Left’s Romance with Tyranny and Terror.