Frontpage Interview’s guest today is Dave Gaubatz, the first U.S. civilian (1811) Federal Agent deployed to Iraq in 2003. He is the owner of DG Counter-terrorism Publishing. He is currently conducting a 50 State Counter-terrorism Research Tour (CTRT). He can be contacted at [email protected].
FP: Dave Gaubatz, welcome back to Frontpage Interview.
I would like to talk to you today about how Islamic organizations and their leaders in America deceive the public. They are very successful in manipulating the media to achieve this objective.
What is your experience and observations in this regard?
Gaubatz: Thanks Jamie.
Islamic organizations such as CAIR, ISNA, MANA, or MSA, and the vast majority of Imams (specifically Sunni) in America, are propaganda machines backed by funds from terror supporting countries and people from within those countries. In front of the America media they spend millions of dollars to promote a false image of being pro- American and they insist that peace is the objective of Islam. But behind the scenes the same Islamic leaders promote an anti-American movement and encourage the use of Jihad (physical) to achieve their objectives.
FP: What are your own experiences in this regard, in terms of what you have yourself witnessed?
Gaubatz: Many readers, specifically liberals, will say it isn’t true that Islamic leaders advocate hatred and violence, but in reality if the readers would conduct just basic research of the materials provided to worshippers (to include children) in their local mosques, their conclusions would change. I have been to over 200 U.S. mosques and within the walls of a mosque are materials advocating the same violent ideology Iran’s Ahmadinejad and Al Qaeda’s Osama bin Laden promote. Numerous materials provided to the worshippers by the Imams call for the destruction of Israel, America, honor killings (such as a father killing his daughter or son if they leave or cause harm to Islam), killing homosexuals, and to even kill priests or nuns because the spread of Christianity is harmful to the Dawaa (spreading/teaching of Islam).
FP: Ok, so what you are saying is that Islamic leaders in America advocate killing innocent people in America?
Gaubatz: Yes. If a 9 or 10 year old were to write or say anything close to what Islamic leaders distribute the liberal media and justice system would demand serious action be taken against the child and the parents of the child. This is the hypocrisy I see everyday. I conduct research inside a mosque and see numerous references written by their leaders advocating Muslims to commit serious acts of violence against innocent people, and call for the overthrow of our country, yet the same liberals and executives within many law enforcement departments who demand severe punishment for a child, consider this to be a constitutional right for Islamic leaders.
No one has yet provided a sufficient answer to the American people why advocating violence is permitted for Islamic leaders in a mosque, but not for a child at school. Neither should be permitted.
FP: Provide us with a book widely used by Islamic leaders to explain the teachings of Islam.
Gaubatz: First I should mention the majority of mosques in America are predominately Sunni, and therefore the manuals/books being used are in accordance with this sect of Muslim people. There are five primary manuals used by the Sunni people to help them better understand ‘Pure Islam’. All are very clear in one aspect. They promote hatred of Jews, Christians, and Muslims who do not adhere to ‘all’ aspects of Sharia law. These manuals are:
1. Tafsir Ibn Kathir
2. Fiqh Us Sunnah
3. Sahih Ul Muslim
4. Sahih al-Bukharii
5. Reliance of the Traveler
I highly encourage readers, specifically our elected officials and law enforcement to review these Islamic materials. After reading the entire manuals, readers will be more educated about Islam, but more importantly they will understand Islamic leaders in America are putting a ‘sheet over the eyes of non-Muslims’ in order to hide their true objectives; which are to spread Islam across the world, under Sharia (Islamic law), and through violence when required. CAIR leaders promote and advocate the teachings of a prominent terrorist leader, Abul Maududi. Maududi describes the goals and objectives of Islam best through his many writings and specific statements:
1. “If you accept the whole of Islam in your life…a time will come when Communism will fear for its survival in Moscow, Capitalistic democracy will tremble for its safety in Washington and New York”.
- Book: “Come let us change this World” page 83. Author: Sayyid Abul A’la Maududi. Founder of Jamaat-e-Islami (The Islamic Party), a political party in Pakistan.
2. “Islam requires the earth—not just a portion, but the whole planet”
- Book: Jihad in Islam, by Syed Abul A’la Maududi. Page 10
FP: Tell us some more. Give us some more information from the manuals you just described.
Gaubatz: Yes. The manual ‘Reliance of the Traveler’ should be required reading for anyone in politics, and for our law enforcement. During my visits to mosques several worshippers and Imams recommended this manual for study. Imams will often tell you the Quran is often difficult to understand and is only 100% accurate if it is read in Arabic. Since even most Muslims in America do not read or speak Arabic fluently, there have been many books and manuals written in English to inform Muslims (specifically new converts/reverts) on how to fulfill their obligations as a ‘Pure Muslim’. ‘Reliance of the Traveler’ is one such book. How many readers are aware of this manual?
FP: Why is this important for law enforcement and non-Muslims to know?
Gaubatz: Because the book is used as an educational tool, is very violent, and justifies/advocates the type actions committed by the Muslims who are committing ‘lone’ acts of murder across America.
I do not use the Quran as reference for any article or lecture I provide. Islamic leaders will say it was taken out of context and the selected sections were not translated correctly, because only the Arabic version of the Quran is accurate and legitimate. The English versions of the Quran are not considered ‘holy’ and to Islamic leaders I have talked to the English Quran are utilized simply as a propaganda tool. Imams have informed me the English versions of the Quran are seldom if ever treated with respect by ‘Pure Muslims’.
‘Reliance of the Traveler’ takes sections of the Arabic Quran and explains to the non- Arabic reading Muslim how to accurately understand the statements of the Quran.
After reading the statements below I encourage everyone to obtain a copy. Review it in its entirety and then take the book to your elected officials and local law enforcement departments. Demand they speak with local Imams and ask why Muslim youth are being taught the doctrines within.
The title of the first statement I will use is “Killing a Human Being”.
1. “Whoever intentionally kills a believer, his recompense shall be hell, abiding therein forever, and Allah shall be wroth with him, damn him, and ready for him a painful torment”.
Note by Gaubatz: Readers should note this statement specifically uses the word ‘believer’. For a Muslim youth to review this statement it suggests killing another Muslim is strongly condemned, but to kill a non Muslim is justified.
The second section I will use is titled “Sodomy and Lesbianism”.
2. “Kill the one who sodomizes and the one who lets it be done to him. Lesbianism by women is adultery between them”.
Note by Gaubatz: These statements clearly inform the Muslim to kill homosexuals. Adultery by women in accordance with Sharia law is punishable by ‘stoning to death’. The readers should further understand this manual does not inform the Muslims these violent statements are to be used in an Islamic State and not in England, America, etc.. The killing of homosexuals is advocated regardless of the location on earth.
The third section is titled “A Wife’s Rebelling Against her Husband”
3. “Righteous women will be obedient, and in absence watchful, for Allah is watchful. And if you fear their intractability, warn them, send them from bed, or hit them, but if they obey you, seek no way to blame them.”
Note by Gaubatz: Domestic physical abuse is widespread amongst Muslim families. The women are intimidated to report such abuse because not only will they likely be further punished, but because their community will ostracize them.”
FP: What can concerned citizens do?
Gaubatz: First they must conduct a self-education course on Islam and its ideology. No matter how many rallies are conducted, few will listen if you do not know your material. Avoid the use of the Quran and instead focus on the materials that are being used to educate the young and innocent Muslim children. After becoming better informed Americans should demand our elected leaders and law enforcement do their jobs. Their primary job is to protect America and our most valuable resource; our children.
Congresswoman Sue Myrick and former Congressman Virgil Goode are light years ahead of most politicians. They understand the ideology being taught/spread by many Islamic leaders and both have been instrumental in exposing the organizations and people who promote/teach violence to their worshippers. We need more leaders like Myrick and Goode to step forward and do their jobs, often at the risk of their own careers. They know and I know CAIR, ISNA, and the like will ‘target’ them. Although CAIR executives demand the right for free speech, they are in reality hypocrites. They believe ‘free speech’ is a right, unless of course someone questions their organization or Islam. Then it becomes a crime in their eyes.
Finally for people who do not believe an Islamic State is being pursued by CAIR, ISNA, and numerous Islamic leaders in America they must understand that terrorist leader Abul Maududi is highly respected by these scholars and they encourage their children to adhere to his teachings. From Maududi:
“The Islamic State is that it is an ideological state.” The Qur’an and the Sunnah would be the chief sources of the public law of the land”.
* Pamphlet: Political Theory of Islam, pages 31 & 33. By S. Abul A’la Maududi (Founder of JI terrorist organization)
Some readers may recall I had previously written about an Islamic leader who is a professor at Virginia Tech, Blacksburg, VA. Sedki Riad had previously wrote/talked with me and discussed the attributes of an Islamic State and believes Sudan is an excellent example of Sharia law being enforced. Readers should also recall this is the professor who publicly prayed for the students killed in the violent massacre at Virginia Tech in April 2007.
Hypocrisy is a common trait among the Islamic leaders in America. Just a few days after the terrible Tech murders the media had Sedki Riad as one of the examples of a Muslim leader praying, yet behind the scenes he was providing me and one of my female researchers very violent hate material stamped by the Saudi Government and material used by terrorist groups. Riad was also very critical of Virginia Tech executives and our government saying they ‘oppress’ Muslims.
Although the term ‘wake up America’ is used frequently, Americans had best wake up before it is too late. I have often stated it will not be the adults who suffer; it will be our children and their children.
FP: Dave Gaubatz, thank you for joining Frontpage Interview.