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		<title>By: Dr bronners</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dr bronners</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Jan 2012 03:04:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The actual  development  &quot;remedy  for you to  obesity &quot; by simply  medical professional. A.t.t  Simeons is termed  your  hcg weight loss plan. HCG or perhaps  man  Chorionic Gonadotropin can be a  natural  hormone-like…&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.fatlossdietonlin.com&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;dr. simeons hcg diet&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The actual  development  &#8220;remedy  for you to  obesity &#8221; by simply  medical professional. A.t.t  Simeons is termed  your  hcg weight loss plan. HCG or perhaps  man  Chorionic Gonadotropin can be a  natural  hormone-like…<a href="http://www.fatlossdietonlin.com" rel="nofollow">dr. simeons hcg diet</a></p>
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		<title>By: SWTenner</title>
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		<dc:creator>SWTenner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Apr 2010 08:42:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Another  fine example of  what Front Page readers have learned to expect 
 
Counterfactual drivel. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another  fine example of  what Front Page readers have learned to expect </p>
<p>Counterfactual drivel.</p>
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		<title>By: Randall Goon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Randall Goon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Feb 2010 20:12:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Their climber was so skilled it made taking down the diseased tree look easy.  We have had some real winners?!?!?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Their climber was so skilled it made taking down the diseased tree look easy.  We have had some real winners?!?!?</p>
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		<title>By: David Richardson</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Richardson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jan 2010 17:52:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i replace a 15 year ancient unit. the replacement was exact in every way except the nametplate which read Nataulus rather than Broan. it is obviously the same fine unit</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i replace a 15 year ancient unit. the replacement was exact in every way except the nametplate which read Nataulus rather than Broan. it is obviously the same fine unit</p>
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		<title>By: Kenneth Kirchner</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kenneth Kirchner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jan 2010 07:01:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The product is as advertised on the internet</description>
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		<title>By: gpcase</title>
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		<dc:creator>gpcase</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Jan 2010 22:20:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Managing complex environments (i.e., preserving the status quo) has not only proven to be beyond our ability, but rests on at least one faulty premise: that what we have now, or in the recent past, is normal and preferrable to natural changes.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;When the glaciers receded at the end of the last ice age, they left a barren, scarred  wasteland. Centuries passed by as new plant growth emerged and various species found the warming planet more hospitable. Fire, increased rainfall, further warming and rising CO2 displaced these &quot;young&quot; forests with plant species more suitable to the changing climate. In time the &quot;older&quot; growth was taken over by &quot;preditory&quot; or &quot;opportunistic&quot; tree species. This evolution played itself out in several stages until what we call &quot;old growth&quot; forests emerged relatively recently in the last millennium. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Forest management in the 20th century, such as fire supression, literally backfired. Our levees in New Orleans failed to hold back the flood waters and canals across the Gulf states damaged the wetlands&#039; natural filtering system. This all demonstrates human folly - our conceit that experts can (or should) maintain complex environments just as we find them today. Managing CO2 levels however would do real damage to our freedom and prosperity.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Global warming alarmism exhibits the same human folloy, but it has taken on a quasi religious tone and has been hijacked by the most zealous converts. So-called deniers are treated as heretics who are now mocked, sequestered from major news outlets and are routinley denounced, punished and &quot;excommunicated&quot; through the funding of grants and access to peer-reviewed journals (according to leaked emails). &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;These are not the actions of scientists in the pursuit of truth, but ideologues in pursuit power and prestige as well as a fatal conceit, that regular folks cannot know what&#039;s in their best interest and must be governed by their self-anointed superiors. This philosophical premise lies at the heart of both ancient slavery and modern totalitarianism. Its only cure is to understand the philosophy that supports liberty and freedom and the wisdom and courage to protect our birthright.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Managing complex environments (i.e., preserving the status quo) has not only proven to be beyond our ability, but rests on at least one faulty premise: that what we have now, or in the recent past, is normal and preferrable to natural changes.</p>
<p>When the glaciers receded at the end of the last ice age, they left a barren, scarred  wasteland. Centuries passed by as new plant growth emerged and various species found the warming planet more hospitable. Fire, increased rainfall, further warming and rising CO2 displaced these &#8220;young&#8221; forests with plant species more suitable to the changing climate. In time the &#8220;older&#8221; growth was taken over by &#8220;preditory&#8221; or &#8220;opportunistic&#8221; tree species. This evolution played itself out in several stages until what we call &#8220;old growth&#8221; forests emerged relatively recently in the last millennium. </p>
<p>Forest management in the 20th century, such as fire supression, literally backfired. Our levees in New Orleans failed to hold back the flood waters and canals across the Gulf states damaged the wetlands&#39; natural filtering system. This all demonstrates human folly &#8211; our conceit that experts can (or should) maintain complex environments just as we find them today. Managing CO2 levels however would do real damage to our freedom and prosperity.</p>
<p>Global warming alarmism exhibits the same human folloy, but it has taken on a quasi religious tone and has been hijacked by the most zealous converts. So-called deniers are treated as heretics who are now mocked, sequestered from major news outlets and are routinley denounced, punished and &#8220;excommunicated&#8221; through the funding of grants and access to peer-reviewed journals (according to leaked emails). </p>
<p>These are not the actions of scientists in the pursuit of truth, but ideologues in pursuit power and prestige as well as a fatal conceit, that regular folks cannot know what&#39;s in their best interest and must be governed by their self-anointed superiors. This philosophical premise lies at the heart of both ancient slavery and modern totalitarianism. Its only cure is to understand the philosophy that supports liberty and freedom and the wisdom and courage to protect our birthright.</p>
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		<title>By: Barry Cooper</title>
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		<dc:creator>Barry Cooper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Jan 2010 16:20:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bob,&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Let me ask you one simple question: given that CO2 levels have been at least 5x what they are today--this is disputed by no one, and I first read it in the New York Times--why are global warming cultists claiming that disaster will result now, when it did not then? &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;On the contrary, plants grew larger, and longer, and large animals evolved to eat them.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;And if you want to talk about &quot;coastline&quot; BS, then that is a question of cost/benefit isn&#039;t it?  The cost to protect coastlines, and the costs of wrecking the global economy--and in the process damaging democratic instiutions and free market autonomy--versus the benefits of longer growing seasons across more of Earth&#039;s surface and the benefits of continued unrestricted carbon fuel use to lift poor people out of poverty, so less of them live short miserable lives.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bob,</p>
<p>Let me ask you one simple question: given that CO2 levels have been at least 5x what they are today&#8211;this is disputed by no one, and I first read it in the New York Times&#8211;why are global warming cultists claiming that disaster will result now, when it did not then? </p>
<p>On the contrary, plants grew larger, and longer, and large animals evolved to eat them.</p>
<p>And if you want to talk about &#8220;coastline&#8221; BS, then that is a question of cost/benefit isn&#39;t it?  The cost to protect coastlines, and the costs of wrecking the global economy&#8211;and in the process damaging democratic instiutions and free market autonomy&#8211;versus the benefits of longer growing seasons across more of Earth&#39;s surface and the benefits of continued unrestricted carbon fuel use to lift poor people out of poverty, so less of them live short miserable lives.</p>
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		<title>By: tlwinslow</title>
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		<dc:creator>tlwinslow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Jan 2010 20:02:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s better than playing batter up like you do :) My link was just to my own web page in case anybody wants to email me.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;There is no need to prove that enough CO2 pumped into the atmosphere will heat the Earth up, just look at Venus. The current global warming debate is about whether and how much it&#039;s happening now with the pathetically small levels of CO2 now in Da Air, which is counterproductive. There is also no debate that CO2 helps plants grow, they breathe it, ask any greenhouse operator why they pump it in, or why even Galore calls it Greenhouse Gas. The whole GW debate has become a political program for redistribution of wealth globally using it as a banner, which is so sad since the longterm problem of global starvation can&#039;t be avoided much longer, and once billions are starving a year no redistribution of anything will stop it.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Pump Pump Pump That CO2 and Eat More Dino Steak! (my new slogan :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#39;s better than playing batter up like you do <img src='http://cloud.frontpagemag.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  My link was just to my own web page in case anybody wants to email me.</p>
<p>There is no need to prove that enough CO2 pumped into the atmosphere will heat the Earth up, just look at Venus. The current global warming debate is about whether and how much it&#39;s happening now with the pathetically small levels of CO2 now in Da Air, which is counterproductive. There is also no debate that CO2 helps plants grow, they breathe it, ask any greenhouse operator why they pump it in, or why even Galore calls it Greenhouse Gas. The whole GW debate has become a political program for redistribution of wealth globally using it as a banner, which is so sad since the longterm problem of global starvation can&#39;t be avoided much longer, and once billions are starving a year no redistribution of anything will stop it.</p>
<p>Pump Pump Pump That CO2 and Eat More Dino Steak! (my new slogan <img src='http://cloud.frontpagemag.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: cxt</title>
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		<dc:creator>cxt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Jan 2010 18:44:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>bob&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;It is also &quot;too bad&quot; that people claiming &quot;refute&quot; things always seem to do it by:&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;A-Not providing actual proofs---they simply assert such things.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;B-Conduct what has been called &quot;argument by link&quot;---a generally fallacious method of argumentation where specific points are not addressed--merely asserted, by highlighting a link with the CLAIM that it is indeed concrete refutation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>bob</p>
<p>It is also &#8220;too bad&#8221; that people claiming &#8220;refute&#8221; things always seem to do it by:</p>
<p>A-Not providing actual proofs&#8212;they simply assert such things.</p>
<p>B-Conduct what has been called &#8220;argument by link&#8221;&#8212;a generally fallacious method of argumentation where specific points are not addressed&#8211;merely asserted, by highlighting a link with the CLAIM that it is indeed concrete refutation.</p>
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		<title>By: tlwinslow</title>
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		<dc:creator>tlwinslow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Jan 2010 18:35:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s sad that scientists don&#039;t even remember their own mantra that the Earth in the past was a lot more green and supported dinosaurs because it had more CO2 in the atmosphere. Them giant dinos had a lot more food available than tiny elephants do now, and even they&#039;re on the verge of starving in Africa. Instead of trying to lower CO2 emissions, we need to start finding ways to raise them to turn deserts green and grow more food for the teeming billions.  One way might be to reactivate dormant volcanoes in depopulated regions and/or Antarctica. Animals who have adapted to the cold can adapt to warm, give them free vacations to Tahiti, but when the world pop. doubles again, how how how will we stop mass starvation?  This issue has nothing to do with individual scientists and their credibility, it&#039;s just a matter of waking up.  The only downside is the need to relocate major cities, but that only has to be done once, so why not start planning for it instead of promising $100 bazillion to poor countries to stop global warming when we all know they&#039;ll just steal it and party? &lt;a href=&quot;http://tlwinslow.weebly.com&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://tlwinslow.weebly.com&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#39;s sad that scientists don&#39;t even remember their own mantra that the Earth in the past was a lot more green and supported dinosaurs because it had more CO2 in the atmosphere. Them giant dinos had a lot more food available than tiny elephants do now, and even they&#39;re on the verge of starving in Africa. Instead of trying to lower CO2 emissions, we need to start finding ways to raise them to turn deserts green and grow more food for the teeming billions.  One way might be to reactivate dormant volcanoes in depopulated regions and/or Antarctica. Animals who have adapted to the cold can adapt to warm, give them free vacations to Tahiti, but when the world pop. doubles again, how how how will we stop mass starvation?  This issue has nothing to do with individual scientists and their credibility, it&#39;s just a matter of waking up.  The only downside is the need to relocate major cities, but that only has to be done once, so why not start planning for it instead of promising $100 bazillion to poor countries to stop global warming when we all know they&#39;ll just steal it and party? <a href="http://tlwinslow.weebly.com" rel="nofollow">http://tlwinslow.weebly.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: USMCSniper</title>
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		<dc:creator>USMCSniper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Jan 2010 16:45:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>More than 31,000 scientists across the U.S. – including more than 9,000 Ph.D.s in fields such as atmospheric science, climatology, Earth science, environment and dozens of other specialties – have signed a petition rejecting &quot;global warming,&quot; the assumption that the human production of greenhouse gases is damaging Earth&#039;s climate.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&quot;There is no convincing scientific evidence that human release of carbon dioxide, methane, or other greenhouse gases is causing or will, in the foreseeable future, cause catastrophic heating of the Earth&#039;s atmosphere and disruption of the Earth&#039;s climate,&quot; the petition states. &quot;Moreover, there is substantial scientific evidence that increases in atmospheric carbon dioxide produce many beneficial effects upon the natural plant and animal environments of the Earth.&quot;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The list of scientists includes 9,021 Ph.D.s, 6,961 at the master&#039;s level, 2,240 medical doctors and 12,850 carrying a bachelor of science or equivalent academic degree.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The Petition Project&#039;s website includes both a list of scientists by name as well as a list of scientists by state.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>More than 31,000 scientists across the U.S. – including more than 9,000 Ph.D.s in fields such as atmospheric science, climatology, Earth science, environment and dozens of other specialties – have signed a petition rejecting &#8220;global warming,&#8221; the assumption that the human production of greenhouse gases is damaging Earth&#39;s climate.</p>
<p>&#8220;There is no convincing scientific evidence that human release of carbon dioxide, methane, or other greenhouse gases is causing or will, in the foreseeable future, cause catastrophic heating of the Earth&#39;s atmosphere and disruption of the Earth&#39;s climate,&#8221; the petition states. &#8220;Moreover, there is substantial scientific evidence that increases in atmospheric carbon dioxide produce many beneficial effects upon the natural plant and animal environments of the Earth.&#8221;</p>
<p>The list of scientists includes 9,021 Ph.D.s, 6,961 at the master&#39;s level, 2,240 medical doctors and 12,850 carrying a bachelor of science or equivalent academic degree.</p>
<p>The Petition Project&#39;s website includes both a list of scientists by name as well as a list of scientists by state.</p>
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		<title>By: bob</title>
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		<dc:creator>bob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Jan 2010 14:46:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>See Idso&#039;s wirtings refuted:&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://thingsbreak.wordpress.com/2009/06/03/reliable-sources-climate-realists-craig-idso-ocean-acidification-edition/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://thingsbreak.wordpress.com/2009/06/03/rel...&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;It&#039;s too bad that Frontpage has fallen into the climate change denial camp that pervades the right--Any and all of Pter Sinclair&#039;s videos on  Youtube will refute  this denial with hard scientific --and logical--evidence.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>See Idso&#39;s wirtings refuted:</p>
<p><a href="http://thingsbreak.wordpress.com/2009/06/03/reliable-sources-climate-realists-craig-idso-ocean-acidification-edition/" rel="nofollow">http://thingsbreak.wordpress.com/2009/06/03/rel&#8230;</a></p>
<p>It&#39;s too bad that Frontpage has fallen into the climate change denial camp that pervades the right&#8211;Any and all of Pter Sinclair&#39;s videos on  Youtube will refute  this denial with hard scientific &#8211;and logical&#8211;evidence.</p>
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