Former Archbishop of Canterbury Cautions against Islamic Immigration

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Former Archbishop of Canterbury is ruffling British cultural and religious elites by warning against uncontrolled Islamic immigration that threatens Britain’s ”very ethos or DNA.”

“The idea that Britain can continue to welcome with open arms immigrants who immediately establish their own tribunals to apply Sharia, rather than make use of British civil law, is deeply socially divisive,” Lord Carey warned in a January 7 Times of London op-ed. “The last thing any of us want is ghettos. And while we don’t expect groups to assimilate, there must be a willingness on their part to integrate with the rest of British society.” Carey was appointed to his former position by Margaret Thatcher and, in retirement, has sometimes offered a corrective to the left-leaning proclivities of his successor, Archbishop Rowan Williams.

In America, as in Britain, left-leaning religious groups, most recently the U.S. National Association of Evangelicals, are urging more liberalized immigration laws.   In Britain, the stakes are higher, with proportionally much higher levels of Muslim immigration, creating pockets of urban culture where Islamic mores prevail.  Carey has joined a coalition of British parliamentarians urging sharper controls on immigration.  But somewhat unlike the parliamentary group, the former head of the Church of England and the global Anglican Communion is specifically urging that immigrants affirm Britain’s democratic heritage.

Citing the monarchy, Parliament, the judiciary, the Church of England, and a free press, Carey lamented that “some groups of migrants” are “ambivalent about or even hostile to such institutions” because they embody the Britain’s “liberal democratic values.”  He specifically exampled a proposed antiwar Islamist march as evidence of the dangers that “extremists pose to British society.”

As in America, where left-leaning religious elites deride any concerns about immigration as xenophobic, Carey has been widely lambasted in Britain.  And he stands virtually alone as a senior churchman public urging more careful immigration, with an eye to Islam’s potentially dangerous growth.

In a recent BBC radio broadcast, Carey shared his desire for a “country that values its Christian heritage and democratic standards and all that this country has fought over.”  He also asserted that Britain needs a “tougher church” as “Christians are so very often so soft” and “allow other people to walk over us” because “we don’t want to upset other people.”   Britain’s retired senior archbishop declared Christians must be “more outspoken.”   The Christian and Jewish idea to ‘welcome the stranger” must be affirmed, Carey said.  But uncontrolled immigration could allow Britain to be “destabilized” and the creation of “ghettoes.”

“Too often in recent years the call for a rational debate on mass migration has degenerated into name-calling and charges of racism,” Carey bemoaned in his newspaper op-ed.  “Even the campaign for Balanced Migration, which I have supported, representing cross-party politicians, has barely been heeded by party leaders who have run scared of the issue.”  Britain should “welcome the contribution of both economic migrants and asylum seekers to our lively cosmopolitan culture.”  But uncontrolled borders that permit “new communities whose values are sometimes very different, even antithetical, to our own,” will stretch “almost to breaking point the enormous reserves of tolerance and generosity of the British people” and could damage Britain’s “future harmony.”

Carey warned that irresponsible immigration policies policies would facilitate support for the far-right British National Party  and “otherwise decent people supporting modern-day fascism.”  In somewhat veiled critique of the current British government, Carey noted the Prime Minister has emphasized “shared values” such as “tolerance, fair play, pluralism.”   But Carey retorted that those traits are not uniquely British and the nation must also look to “language, institutions and our shared history in valuing what it means to be British and what we could lose if the make-up of our nation changes too rapidly.”

“It is my firm view that our society owes more to our Christian heritage than it realizes and to overlook this inheritance of faith will lead to the watering down of the very values of tolerance, openness, inclusion and democracy that we claim are central to all we stand for,” Carey warned.  In his radio interview, he rejected any specific immigration policy against “non-Christian populations,” which would violate Britain’s “generous spirit.”   But he did urge immigration policies that favored immigrants who affirm British “values.”

Other religious voices have responded negatively to Carey.  Bishop of Lincoln John Saxbee, the Church of England’s immigration spokesman in the House of Lords, demanded a “more nuanced” approach from Carey.  “Christians across the country work hard to generate a culture of hospitality rather than hostility towards those who come to live, work and worship among us,” Saxbee was quoted as saying in the Independent of Ireland.  “I am sure Lord Carey would not want to do or say anything which might make our task more difficult in that respect,” he harrumphed.

United Reformed Church clergy and social justice activist Vaughan Jones was quoted by Ekklesia as more explicitly deriding Carey’s stance. “Crude, populist and simplistic comments like those of the former Archbishop add nothing new or helpful to the debate,” he sniffed.  “The migrant is not a stranger to the church to be accepted or rejected at our convenience. We are brothers and sisters within a transnational and interdependent global community which transcends the Archbishop’s narrow and outdated nationalism.”

Traditional Religious Left voices simplistically distill immigration law as simply a question of “hospitality.”   Lord Carey, with more nuance than his ostensibly more sophisticated critics, seems to understand civil law’s supreme obligation to safeguard society.

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Mark Tooley is President of the Institute on Religion and Democracy (www.theird.org) and author of Methodism and Politics in the Twentieth Century.

29 Responses for “Former Archbishop of Canterbury Cautions against Islamic Immigration”

  1. W. Layer says:

    The one who is simplistic is the Bishop of Lincoln who ignores the havoc raised by immigration into Britain. The British are being deprived of their country by the political parties who are only interested in importing an electorate that will keep them in power. Traditional liberties and the national culture are seen as impediments to power by them. Labor borders on treason, the Tories on irrelevance.

    • BS1977 says:

      Multiculturism is a lie foisted on the average blokes of England…it is a form of anarchy…engineered by liberal idiots, socialist vote counters and political hacks….what a sorry mess.

  2. Robert Bernier says:

    Haven forbid – The Americans could be next!

    You should see this video ! http://xrl.us/bgscr5

  3. Robert Bernier says:

    Every American should know the truth

    No one should miss this video:

    http://xrl.us/bf29mb

    Look to the end ( 10 min.)

  4. Robert Bernier says:

    The ambition of Islam to conquer the world.
    For centuries Islam of the militants have been on the march to conquer the world. We did not notice because we chose not to notice. The Muslim Brotherhood was founded in
    1920 by Hassan al-Banna in Egypt and was in deep confrontation with the Egyptian government. The current goals for Islam to achieve global domination for a Muslim Caliphate: a world under strict Islamic “Sharia” law, pulling Muslims back to the 7th Century. Consult : http://xrl.us/bf66jj

  5. giuseppe de santis says:

    He is not alone:

    http://www.londonpatriot.org/2010/01/08/czech-car…

    Unfortunately there are too few people talking the truth about the threat of islam

    • BS1977 says:

      "Cautions against immigration" HAHAHAHAHAHA……too late for that, far too late. Read Londonistan by Melanie Phillips…..Liberal PC multicult social engineers decided flooding England with non assimilating, hostile third worlders would be of great benefit to Britain…….Boy, were they wrong!!!

  6. stepman says:

    Yes, here in America we face the same uneducated response to the call of awareness. Those, myself included, whom cry out in the wilderness, are condemed and “has degenerated into name-calling and charges of racism,”. Come to America, but become American. Not some hyphenated hybrid. Understand the principles out the "American Dream". It is more than me, me, me. To highlight a couple, it is about living freely amongst people who are not trying to rule over you in anyway, it is being allowed to worship the God of your understanding. The concept of immigration has been radically evolved into "Save the World" and having to accept the fact that the new immigrant is coming to take not add to America(except the burden that the immigrant brings). Sharia in a free society is not compatable at all. The jihad has never ended nor will it end until its destruction. Even if the rest of the world were under islamic rule, America would still be at risk because the call to jihad is world dominance. AWAKEN AMERICA, AWAKEN NON-MUSLIMS.

  7. shane comeback says:

    Note to Brits: Too late, sleepyhead!

    • BS1977 says:

      My thoughts exactly….the PC open door multicult liberal socialist twit Brits have wrecked London with their idiotic immigration policies…now ten to fifteen years later, they are considering what to do. What a bunch of fools.

      • BS1977 says:

        The Brits have invited a horde of non assimilating hostile third world ingrates into their midst….mostly PC bureaucratic lib socialists are responsible for this anarchy…..and now twenty years down the road, they are pondering……what to do? What a bunch of fools.

    • phoebeintheforest says:

      I have British relatives and the strange thing is they don't seem concerned about this at all. When I was last at Heathrow in late 2005, I was surrounded by a sea of Muslims traveling to and from their native countries. Can't imagine what will have to happen to get the attention of the average Brit, especially the young ones…at any rate, it will be too late.

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  9. solemnman says:

    A backward culture has been floated to power and prominance on a sea of oil and it will prevail unless the west ,finally, understands that a war is being waged against it from within and without by that cultures advocates.

  10. Linda Rivera says:

    Britain is DELIBERATELY tolerating the intolerable and the intolerant:

    Alija Izetbegovic stated in the Islamic Declaration that:
    "there can be neither peace nor coexistence between the Islamic faith and non-Islamic social and political institutions"
    http://www.balkanpeace.org/cib/bos/bosi/bosi01.ht…

    Turkey's Prime Minister, Erdogan, publicly read an Islamic poem: “The mosques are our barracks, the domes our helmets, the minarets our bayonets and Muslims our soldiers…”

    Muslims do not continually migrate from their 57 Muslim countries colonizing our nations so that they can abandon their religion and culture. Muslims come in the millions to conquer our non-Muslim countries. They declare this openly:

    “One day, millions of men will leave the Southern Hemisphere to go to the Northern Hemisphere. And they will not go there as friends. Because they will go there to conquer it. And they will conquer it with their sons. The wombs of our women will give us victory.”
    —Former Algerian President Houari Boumedienne’s prophetic warning to Europe in a speech at the U.N. In 1974.

    In Sweden, many Muslim youth wear a t-shirt proclaiming: "2030-then we take over"

    Council on American-Islamic Relations: "Islam isn't in America to be equal to any other faiths, but to become dominant. The Koran, the Muslim book of scripture, should be the highest authority in America, and Islam the only accepted religion on Earth." – Omar Ahmad (CAIR co-founder).

    Addressing a youth session at the 1999 Islamic Association for Palestine's annual convention in Chicago, CAIR (Council on American-Islamic Relations) founder Omar Ahmad praised suicide bombers who "kill themselves for Islam,"
    http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ART…

    In Britain, Sheikh Bakri: "We will use your democracy to destroy your democracy."

  11. Linda Rivera says:

    VIOLENT Immigrants to the Free World-Their Goal is Conquest
    Savage Muslim mobs – immigrants welcomed into our countries call for the murder of innocents:

    "UK, you will pay"
    "7/7 on its way"
    "Slay those who insult Islam"
    "Europe, you will pay, your 9/11 is on its way!"
    "Jihad Against European Crusaders"

    Violent Muslim Protest Outside the Danish Embassy in London (February 3, 2006). Ferocious screams:
    "Death to you, by god."
    We want Danish blood."
    "May they bomb Denmark! So we can invade their country! And take their wives as war booty!"
    Threats are made against Jews: "The army of Mohammad is coming for you."
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qoMeUcC_M20

    In Britain, Muslims and Islam are elevated above All other People and religions. Is there anyone in the UK Government who protects the rights of Non-Muslims? Polygamy is against the law in Britain and punished by up to seven years in jail. The law is applied to everyone except Muslims. Provided Muslims marry multiple wives overseas, Muslims are richly rewarded and given welfare benefits for their multiple wives. Some Muslim men maintain two separate homes, driving between each home. Britain is Islamic paradise for Muslim men.

    The UK and other European governments have set up many supremacist Islamic sharia law courts revealing Western leaders' utter contempt for the Western justice system of equal rights. Under Islamic law, women are inferior and defenseless non-Muslims have no human rights. Unless a drastic change occurs, due to extremely high Muslim immigration and very high birth-rate, Muslims will become the majority and cruel sharia law will replace Britain and Europe's justice system.

  12. Linda Rivera says:

    Turkey's Prime Minister, Erdogan, publicly read an Islamic poem: “The mosques are our barracks, the domes our helmets, the minarets our bayonets and Muslims our soldiers…”

    In UK, VIOLENT Muslim demonstrators chase police for blocks: "Cowards!" "Run!" "Run you cowards!" "Run you swine!" – Is this what brave Britishers sacrificed and died for in the world wars? They died for our freedom – a freedom which Western leaders no longer guard. With many no-go Muslim areas in the UK, Europe, Israel and India where it is too dangerous for non-Muslims to enter – we are neither safe or free.
    Metropolitan Police humiliated at the hands of Muslim demonstrators in London 1/2
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=97hyDRjdXCE&NR…

    Anti-Israel demonstrators in the West support Hamas:
    Hamas declares Jihad to America and Europe
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VQE8bf1T5H8&fe…

    The Koran demands every non-Muslim is subjugated under cruel Islamic law were non-Muslims have no human rights. Unless things change drastically, pro-Islam Western leaders and the present, huge Muslim colonization of the West will achieve Islamic conquest.

    In a few decades, the EU policy of massive Muslim immigration into Europe will bring to fruition a Muslim majority in Europe resulting in the EU goal of total destruction of Western civilization. Will the dark era of Europe's suffering return? When Muslims ruled Eastern Europe, as a tax, one out of five non-Muslim European children were taken from Europe as slaves to lives of living hell. Islamic slavery continues to this day.

    Without firing a single shot, Islam is quickly and easily conquering the Free World with the full cooperation of Western leaders.

    Muslim Demographics
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6-3X5hIFXYU

    The End of Europe http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CfOmQ4Eo_as

  13. BS1977 says:

    ah screw FPM

  14. Linda Rivera says:

    Sorry, I just discovered the above police video was removed from Youtube. Here is another video:

    Metropolitan Police humiliated at the hands of Muslim demonstrators in London 1-2
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jwBBScdP7AU

    The British government should have asked for the forgiveness of every single Briton that Muslim immigrants were ALLOWED to humiliate, insult and physically assault British police. Just who is running Britain, supremacist Muslims?

  15. spitfire12 says:

    Linda Rivera, thank you for all that information. I'm about to explode with rage, so I need to go and calm down!

    All my family will be voting for the British National Party, including my daughter living in America!

    • Linda Rivera says:

      Islamic Infiltration in America's STRONGLY PRO-ISLAM Government.

      The huge threat to the safety and freedom of America, Britain, Israel and the Free World is frightening. Counter-terrorism forces in the FBI are trained by radical Muslim groups. The war on terror is phony.

      From Pajamas Media: The Islamic Infiltration, Part 1: Inside Our Government, Armed With Our Secrets
      http://www.pjtv.com/v/2930

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  17. GJTryon says:

    "Cautions against?" If that's the best he can do at this stage of the game then he ought to go back to his tea and committees and leave the spiritual rule of the U.K. to those with a little old fashioned British bulldog conviction, i.e., the imams. Too little, too late, to change Britain's fate.

    • BS1977 says:

      Yes, it is rather late in the game to raise objections to Moozlim immigration, especially after 20 years of seeing the PC multicult Brit Twit hack bureaucrats rolling out the red carpet for hostile, non assimilating hordes who HATE Britain…and wish to turn it into Turdistan. Read Londonistan by Melanie Phillips. Britain has been virtually destroyed by clueless idiot social engineers, socialists and welfare statists who now are watching as their creation turns into a Frankenstein.

  18. Kasey Mizuno says:

    Hello, firstly I want to say that I try to follow your blog. Great post, I fully agree with you. Have a good day matey.

  19. SFLBIB says:

    Looks more and more like there won't always be an England.

  20. American Farmer says:

    The fear expressed in these comments is justified. The following three questions (in seperate posts) is a good indicator of THE TRUTH! Thus far NO clear answers are forthcoming from the Islamic communities.

    Questions for leaders of an allegedly “MODERATE” and “PEACEFUL” Islam.

    1. Islamic law (Sharia) states that Muslims who convert to Christianity must be killed (Redda Law), women in adulterous relationships must be stoned to death, men can beat their wives to discipline them, and homosexuals should be killed.

  21. American Farmer says:

    Question: Are you willing to recommend that these traditional Muslim practices be banned and to condemn countries such as Saudi Arabia and Iran which accept such practices as religiously mandated?

    2. Several Muslim texts declare that Jews are pigs and monkeys and that killing Jews before "end days" is a religious duty for Muslims.

    Question: Are you willing to declare that these texts must be changed and/or reinterpreted and that Islamic teaching of such anti-Semitic values must stop?

    3. Muslim texts that are approved by all the schools of jurisprudence in Islam (Shafeii, Hanbali, Maleki, and Hanafi) state that Muslims must declare wars against non-Muslims to spread Islam and those they conquer must either convert to Islam, pay Jizya (a humiliating tax), or be killed.
    Question: Are you willing to declare that this belief, used in "Foutohhat Islameia," the early wars to spread Islam, and praised currently in much of the Muslim world, is un-Islamic and unacceptable?

  22. American Farmer says:

    Questions for leaders of an allegedly “MODERATE” and “PEACEFUL” Islam.
    Comment size limits prohibited the posting of my ENTIRE post. To clarify my first question that was broken up:
    1. Islamic law (Sharia) states that Muslims who convert to Christianity must be killed (Redda Law), women in adulterous relationships must be stoned to death, men can beat their wives to discipline them, and homosexuals should be killed.
    Question: Are you willing to recommend that these traditional Muslim practices be banned and to condemn countries such as Saudi Arabia and Iran which accept such practices as religiously mandated?

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