Comments on: Unholy Alliance: Zinn, Chomsky, Bin Laden

By: All Things Not Being Equal… « Back Towards The Locus

All Things Not Being Equal… « Back Towards The Locus — Fri, 17 Feb 2012 00:42:22 +0000

[...] or intellectuals you’re pretty much bound to be criticising lots of Jews. For example, this essay by Peter Collier of FrontPageMagazine denounces leftists such as Chomsky, Goodman, Klein, Howard [...]

By: Office Design

Office Design — Sat, 21 Jan 2012 21:32:42 +0000

He may lie at the opposite end of the political spectrum from where I do, yet no matter what one’s political views are – there is no denying the fact that Howard Zinn was and is one of the single most important figures in contemporary political history. Mr. Zinn died last Wednesday of a heart attack, he was 87.

One amaizing man!!

By: dobbs

dobbs — Mon, 09 May 2011 02:00:41 +0000

Zinn regretted the he was unaware from his B-17 of the human chaos below and looked into the deaths of civilians that were bombed. He also questioned the necessity of attacking civilian targets. Its hardly the same thing. Theres a difference between hating ones self and reflecting on past and indeed present actions no matter how righteous the goals.

By: Dobbs

Dobbs — Mon, 09 May 2011 01:40:05 +0000

I doubt it does have the Wrights or Edison but its not about them. From the introductions to both the book and the audio book (which is quite different and focuses only on the 20th century) I understand that Zinn was not doing a history of the great men such as Politicians and Inventors. He was looking at how the people who are often ignored in other histories have experienced and viewed events. He also said something along the lines that as a result the book was not a complete history and that other histories have something to offer.

By: Dobbs

Dobbs — Mon, 09 May 2011 01:27:45 +0000

I expect Zinn would and so may Chomsky who has repeatedly said America is in many ways the freest country in the world.

By: bubba4

bubba4 — Fri, 05 Feb 2010 05:58:44 +0000

the "connection" is made is some cultic mindspace tricky doesn't believe in.

This guilt by extremely distant association (or no association) is the Ray Charles= God argument.

God is love
love is blind
Ray Charles is blind
Ray Charles is god

By: bubba4

bubba4 — Fri, 05 Feb 2010 05:52:48 +0000

HAHHAHAAHAHAHHAHHAHHAHAHAHH

By: bubba4

bubba4 — Fri, 05 Feb 2010 05:51:49 +0000

What's this strange "objectively" you speak of? – lol

By: bubba4

bubba4 — Fri, 05 Feb 2010 05:36:32 +0000

You can count of the fact that you for the most part are always wrong.

I know what you mean about Chomsky and Zinn. It's something I noticed about film critics….they are always attacking films. They must hate movies and want to see them destroyed.

And it's "entities" and that is exactly your problem. The attacks around here aren't against the communist party….they aren't against a particular identifiable "group" or "entity"…the "left" is anyone that disagrees. It's FPM that is fronting a worldview.

On almost every article someone talks about how the "left" thinks this or does this and is so ammoral and crazy and whatever….WHO are they talking about?

Calling someone names right out of the box is a sign of weakness. It's a tool to just quickly marginalize anything a person says or does…..give it characteristics, motives and beliefs so you can take to personally hating it.

The universe is a paradox, but it is not a moral one. If any of you actually knew anything about Chompsky and Zinn, then your criticisms of them might actually mean something. If you want to label them and get into a circle jerk about how American you are and how much you hate Marx, then you're on your own.

By: Antoine

Antoine — Fri, 05 Feb 2010 03:21:14 +0000

Funny how one talks about truth and writes the following: "He associated himself with a rancid group of French Holocaust deniers" The "group of French Holocaust deniers" was one Professor named Robert Faurisson, who got fired after denying the holocaust in a private publication he wrote. What is so shocking to defend someone's freedom of speech? If you care to read Chomsky's answer on this topic: http://www.chomsky.info/letters/1989—-.htm

This sentence does not make sense " it was a shock to see Chomsky’s response … “a left wing journal I was running then." especially since you refute it a few lines below " I listened to it and Chomsky appears actually to have said “a left wing magazine that was running then,” without the “I.”

You might want to read a few of his books, just to know what you're talking about next time. You can find some mistakes he made, so far I found misquotations, unfortunately his arguments seem too well researched to be reasonably argued against.

By: therealend

therealend — Thu, 04 Feb 2010 21:56:03 +0000

Will the US be blamed for WWII as well? There was no CIA then so maybe not. What is it that you don't blame on the US or Israel? Acne? Dandruff, maybe?

By: BS1977

BS1977 — Thu, 04 Feb 2010 19:34:56 +0000

There once was a man named Zinn
Whose mind was in a terrible spin
With Mao and Stalin he was tight
He thought the left was right
And ended up in the looney bin.

By: VN Vet

VN Vet — Thu, 04 Feb 2010 19:28:30 +0000

The logical difference is that it's hard to tie bin Laden to Jefferson, Lincoln and Teddy Roosevelt, by any kind of an association, because these three peope were pro-Americans. The association of Zinn, Chumpsky and bin Laden is much more easily understood, and thus the connection is made .

By: Mr. Steve Sir

Mr. Steve Sir — Thu, 04 Feb 2010 18:33:14 +0000

Zinn has some friends that recently came back & served in the Special Forces who fought against Bin Laden financed terror campiagns. It wouldn't be too difficult to cut your head off & mount it on the tomb of Adolf Hitler. Zinn could've died for this country in a real war & he fought until the end. Zinn & I are both veterans, If he has carte blanche to say peace, I have carte blanche to say go fight, I hope you get caught & maybe you can pretend you see Zinn & Chomsky before you get beheaded. If they were there … hahahahaha, you would be begging them for mercy & not Bin Ladin … hahahahahahahahahahahaha.

By: Jack

Jack — Thu, 04 Feb 2010 18:18:06 +0000

Did you write your dissertation on "girlieboy retarded Islamohitlerites"?

By: AntiFascist18

AntiFascist18 — Thu, 04 Feb 2010 18:15:57 +0000

Paging Jack the Lad, aka Idiot Lad.

Sorry but even with their "Jewish" birth Zinn and Chomsky are associates of Stalin, and in the case of Chomsky a defender of Holocaust deniers while the pisspot Zinn "regretted" bombing them. Guess they preferred being a lampshade, or smoke and ashe in the sky over Poland.

Furthermore both of them defend Arab Muslim Aggression and terrorism against Jewish women and children while being hypocritical enough to not vacant their own homes on OCCUPIED NATIVE AMERICAN SOIL.

As Mark Levin would say – You're AN IDIOT!

By: Jack

Jack — Thu, 04 Feb 2010 18:07:26 +0000

Robert, neither of them have supported Pol Pot, Mao, or Hamas. Zinn did express some support for Cuba's government, and that's definitely to his discredit. His book also said something about China being in the hands of a people's government in early 1949, although later in the book he said that the Chinese Communists had a bloody record of suppression and he criticized the U.S. for dealing with them. I guess you'd say that his desire to bitch and moan about the U.S. outweighed his tendency to suck up to communist governments in the latter case–I don't know, maybe you'd be right. Overall, he was probably too soft on communist dictatorships, but the fact remains that most of the stuff you, David Horowitz, and the brain-damaged asshole who calls himself antifascist18 are saying is just factually wrong. I'll leave it at that.

By: Jack

Jack — Thu, 04 Feb 2010 17:43:06 +0000

If you have a history degree, it's a very sad commentary on the state of American higher education.

By: Robert Wargas

Robert Wargas — Thu, 04 Feb 2010 13:52:19 +0000

I can hear the response forming in your head. "The United States government are sociopaths and murderers, too." My response is: OK, even if we grant this, why would Zinn and Chomsky then support other murderers?

Saying the United States is evil does not constitute a sufficient justification to support other evil. It's like a neo-Nazi justifying his desire for a second Holocaust by saying that the CIA has killed people, too.

By: Robert Wargas

Robert Wargas — Thu, 04 Feb 2010 13:50:36 +0000

Good response, Bonnie.

And to "Jack," what more proof do you need that Chomsky and Zinn preferred sociopaths and murderers to the United States government? Is it merely an accident that they have expressed support, at one time or another, for a cast of characters like Pol Pot, Mao Tse-tung, Fidel Castro, Arafat, Hamas?