Comments on: Defending the Indefensible http://frontpagemag.com/2010/02/04/defending-the-indefensible/ Sat, 26 May 2012 23:34:55 +0000 hourly 1 By: bubba4 http://frontpagemag.com/2010/02/04/defending-the-indefensible/comment-page-1/#comment-18996 bubba4 Sun, 07 Feb 2010 23:08:03 +0000 http://frontpagemag.com/?p=48746#comment-18996 You guys made up this "story" from the beginning because of the "terrorism not criminal" narrative...the reading of miranda rights cutting short interrogation was just too juicy not to beat to death, even if it was untrue. Laskin here has the interesting task in reporting that the narrative is not true while simultaneously bolstering the narrative. "What intelligence information was lost in the aftermath of the 9/11 attacks because of the decision to Mirandize Reid?" Laskin...I got an idea, why don't you go find out like a real reporter. I know it will cut short your insinuations and will ruin the narrative, but you will be that much less slimy. You guys made up this "story" from the beginning because of the "terrorism not criminal" narrative…the reading of miranda rights cutting short interrogation was just too juicy not to beat to death, even if it was untrue.

Laskin here has the interesting task in reporting that the narrative is not true while simultaneously bolstering the narrative.

"What intelligence information was lost in the aftermath of the 9/11 attacks because of the decision to Mirandize Reid?"

Laskin…I got an idea, why don't you go find out like a real reporter. I know it will cut short your insinuations and will ruin the narrative, but you will be that much less slimy.

]]> By: davarino http://frontpagemag.com/2010/02/04/defending-the-indefensible/comment-page-1/#comment-18935 davarino Sun, 07 Feb 2010 14:46:03 +0000 http://frontpagemag.com/?p=48746#comment-18935 Ya are you old enough to remember when the liberals were not america haters. Do you remember when liberals were actually sane and not far leftists? Ya are you old enough to remember when the liberals were not america haters. Do you remember when liberals were actually sane and not far leftists?

]]> By: davarino http://frontpagemag.com/2010/02/04/defending-the-indefensible/comment-page-1/#comment-18933 davarino Sun, 07 Feb 2010 14:41:29 +0000 http://frontpagemag.com/?p=48746#comment-18933 We are supposed to wait till a city is nuked, then he'll get pissed, and demand we serve somebody with a sopena We are supposed to wait till a city is nuked, then he'll get pissed, and demand we serve somebody with a sopena

]]> By: davarino http://frontpagemag.com/2010/02/04/defending-the-indefensible/comment-page-1/#comment-18932 davarino Sun, 07 Feb 2010 14:33:35 +0000 http://frontpagemag.com/?p=48746#comment-18932 Put your tin foil hat back on damn it. They are starting to give you really wierd ideas. Put your tin foil hat back on damn it. They are starting to give you really wierd ideas.

]]> By: Rifleman http://frontpagemag.com/2010/02/04/defending-the-indefensible/comment-page-1/#comment-18880 Rifleman Sun, 07 Feb 2010 01:28:03 +0000 http://frontpagemag.com/?p=48746#comment-18880 A military "drumhead tribunal" is unjust? US troops are tried under them every day, shouldn't they be getting a the additional rights we're giving enemy combatants, including the right to a jury trial? Giving illegal combatants waging a terror war on us civilian rights is stupid beyond belief. I can understand why someone would assume it's treason. It's nice he's cooperating a week into Febuary, but he was singing like a canary when they caught him on Christmas, right up until they let him know they were dumb enough to give him civilian rights. You really can't see why timeliness might be important to intel? Do you really have no idea of, or concern for, the amount of intel we give away when we are dumb enough to try people waging war on us in our civilian courts? It's hard for me to believe. A military "drumhead tribunal" is unjust? US troops are tried under them every day, shouldn't they be getting a the additional rights we're giving enemy combatants, including the right to a jury trial? Giving illegal combatants waging a terror war on us civilian rights is stupid beyond belief. I can understand why someone would assume it's treason.

It's nice he's cooperating a week into Febuary, but he was singing like a canary when they caught him on Christmas, right up until they let him know they were dumb enough to give him civilian rights. You really can't see why timeliness might be important to intel? Do you really have no idea of, or concern for, the amount of intel we give away when we are dumb enough to try people waging war on us in our civilian courts? It's hard for me to believe.

]]> By: Rifleman http://frontpagemag.com/2010/02/04/defending-the-indefensible/comment-page-1/#comment-18875 Rifleman Sun, 07 Feb 2010 00:46:33 +0000 http://frontpagemag.com/?p=48746#comment-18875 Lol, you left something out. They also say our very existence offends allah, and they will wage war on us until we convert, submit, or die and all the world is dar al islam. They'll never lack for an excuse to kill us, even if you grovel and comply with every grievance you listed, and the ones you didn't. Not only that, but your appeasement only encourages them, swells their ranks, and perpetuates their use of terrorism. What's a defenseless drone attack? Funny you would mention them, because I know the terrorists feel defenseless against the drones, and they're rightly scared of them. They look up in fear often. I know someone who sits in a nice climate controlled theater, with a whole wall of big screens of situation maps and live feeds from our drones. They'll follow suspects around for weeks, and sooner or later, they'll pull weapons out of a cache or meet an armed party, and a green clear to engage light will come on in the corner of the screen, followed shortly by a red one, showing a weapon is on the way. Seconds later there's a flash, perhaps a secondary or two, and there's a few less terrorists in the world. It's very demoralizing for them, as is the fact that one or two hundred of them have to die for every American they kill. They can either find a way to express their displeasure with us, their governments for inviting us there, or our “mingling” in dar al islam in general (are they not here?), other than killing us, or they can suffer the consequences. That's reasonable. We're Americans, we've learned not to run and try to hide from people like them. With all those letters it's hard to believe you missed the lesson of the Barbary Pirates. I guess a formal education ain't what it used to be. Lol, you left something out. They also say our very existence offends allah, and they will wage war on us until we convert, submit, or die and all the world is dar al islam. They'll never lack for an excuse to kill us, even if you grovel and comply with every grievance you listed, and the ones you didn't. Not only that, but your appeasement only encourages them, swells their ranks, and perpetuates their use of terrorism.

What's a defenseless drone attack? Funny you would mention them, because I know the terrorists feel defenseless against the drones, and they're rightly scared of them. They look up in fear often. I know someone who sits in a nice climate controlled theater, with a whole wall of big screens of situation maps and live feeds from our drones. They'll follow suspects around for weeks, and sooner or later, they'll pull weapons out of a cache or meet an armed party, and a green clear to engage light will come on in the corner of the screen, followed shortly by a red one, showing a weapon is on the way. Seconds later there's a flash, perhaps a secondary or two, and there's a few less terrorists in the world. It's very demoralizing for them, as is the fact that one or two hundred of them have to die for every American they kill.

They can either find a way to express their displeasure with us, their governments for inviting us there, or our “mingling” in dar al islam in general (are they not here?), other than killing us, or they can suffer the consequences. That's reasonable. We're Americans, we've learned not to run and try to hide from people like them. With all those letters it's hard to believe you missed the lesson of the Barbary Pirates. I guess a formal education ain't what it used to be.

]]> By: jsok1948 http://frontpagemag.com/2010/02/04/defending-the-indefensible/comment-page-1/#comment-18656 jsok1948 Fri, 05 Feb 2010 19:43:51 +0000 http://frontpagemag.com/?p=48746#comment-18656 Jacob: I am at a loss to understand your point. Because Abdulmutallab is cooperating with the authorities --- thanks to his family members being assured that he can get a fair trial in the U.S. legal system --- our intelligence agents are learning who recruited him and how, who trained him, who sent him, etc. "Actionable intelligence," in other words. Let's say instead we had tortured him (use whatever euphemism you wish) or tried him before a military drumhead tribunal. What more would we have learned? This isn't a TV show with only 50 minutes to go before the nuclear bomb explodes in New York City. I think critics of this administration are so hasty to make political hay out of every step the administration takes, you can't see the forest for the trees. Many more terrorists have been convicted by civilian courts than by military tribunals. Can we try to remember that we all (liberals and conservatives alike) are on the same side (the American side) and that we are not divided into traitors (all liberals) and patriots (all conservatives)? Once upon a time politics was left at the water's edge. I'm old enough to be nostalgic. Jacob: I am at a loss to understand your point. Because Abdulmutallab is cooperating with the authorities — thanks to his family members being assured that he can get a fair trial in the U.S. legal system — our intelligence agents are learning who recruited him and how, who trained him, who sent him, etc. "Actionable intelligence," in other words. Let's say instead we had tortured him (use whatever euphemism you wish) or tried him before a military drumhead tribunal. What more would we have learned? This isn't a TV show with only 50 minutes to go before the nuclear bomb explodes in New York City. I think critics of this administration are so hasty to make political hay out of every step the administration takes, you can't see the forest for the trees. Many more terrorists have been convicted by civilian courts than by military tribunals. Can we try to remember that we all (liberals and conservatives alike) are on the same side (the American side) and that we are not divided into traitors (all liberals) and patriots (all conservatives)? Once upon a time politics was left at the water's edge. I'm old enough to be nostalgic.

]]> By: idviking http://frontpagemag.com/2010/02/04/defending-the-indefensible/comment-page-1/#comment-18525 idviking Fri, 05 Feb 2010 08:29:34 +0000 http://frontpagemag.com/?p=48746#comment-18525 As we continue the rant about the obvious flaws in the Islamic religion it occurs to me that perhaps the "failures" of government really aren't failures at all. No one could be this stupid on purpose. The first month of Obama's presidency an executive order was signed giving 250 million dollars to Palestine. About two weeks later Clinton promised another 900 million. Considering that Hamas controls about 90% of the government there, where do you think the money goes? Isn't it possible to presume that there is some measure of complicity in the actions of the politicians and lawyers that are supposed to keep our country secure? The last half of 2009 there were attempted and realized acts of terrorism almost every month. After Ft. Hood, shouldn't all targets have been sufficiently hardened to at least minimize potential future catastrophe? After every attack, the media and politicians rush to defend "the religion of peace", to the exclusion of the effects these attacks have on the victims and their families. It was a travesty when the official at Ft. Hood lamented the effect that incident could have on diversity instead of condemning the act and the evil passages within the Koran that facilitated it. America's greatest strength is not diversity. America's strength lies in the unity of its people to a common ideal, liberty. The laws of America are a deterrent to the oppression inherent in the Koran. That is why they keep trying to kill us and that is what they are trying to break. Our politicians should be protecting Americans. Not look for ways to avoid offending Muslims in the face of the obvious so they can get money or a vote during the next election cycle. Are we ignoring the murders, honor killings, suppression of women's rights and the outright bigotry of Islam against all other faiths because we don't want to appear intolerant? WE should be intolerant of all those things because they are morally reprehensible. It doesn't matter if it is part of Islam or in the Koran, it is wrong. And if there is anyone out there that thinks Sharia law and the Constitution can peacefully co-exist I have a bridge for sale. As we continue the rant about the obvious flaws in the Islamic religion it occurs to me that perhaps the "failures" of government really aren't failures at all. No one could be this stupid on purpose. The first month of Obama's presidency an executive order was signed giving 250 million dollars to Palestine. About two weeks later Clinton promised another 900 million. Considering that Hamas controls about 90% of the government there, where do you think the money goes? Isn't it possible to presume that there is some measure of complicity in the actions of the politicians and lawyers that are supposed to keep our country secure? The last half of 2009 there were attempted and realized acts of terrorism almost every month.
After Ft. Hood, shouldn't all targets have been sufficiently hardened to at least minimize potential future catastrophe?
After every attack, the media and politicians rush to defend "the religion of peace", to the exclusion of the effects these attacks have on the victims and their families. It was a travesty when the official at Ft. Hood lamented the effect that incident could have on diversity instead of condemning the act and the evil passages within the Koran that facilitated it.
America's greatest strength is not diversity. America's strength lies in the unity of its people to a common ideal, liberty. The laws of America are a deterrent to the oppression inherent in the Koran. That is why they keep trying to kill us and that is what they are trying to break.
Our politicians should be protecting Americans. Not look for ways to avoid offending Muslims in the face of the obvious so they can get money or a vote during the next election cycle.
Are we ignoring the murders, honor killings, suppression of women's rights and the outright bigotry of Islam against all other faiths because we don't want to appear intolerant? WE should be intolerant of all those things because they are morally reprehensible. It doesn't matter if it is part of Islam or in the Koran, it is wrong.
And if there is anyone out there that thinks Sharia law and the Constitution can peacefully co-exist I have a bridge for sale.

]]> By: xman http://frontpagemag.com/2010/02/04/defending-the-indefensible/comment-page-1/#comment-18402 xman Fri, 05 Feb 2010 02:01:08 +0000 http://frontpagemag.com/?p=48746#comment-18402 nick f. is classic proof that having degrees (or two as he says in his case, although I don't believe him) doesn't amount to common sense. Churchill didn't have a degree, in fact he was bottom of the class at school, but unlike the so-called intellectuals of his day, he pegged Hitler. He told us what Hitler would do, but his so-called 'superiors' ridiculed him as an Edwardian warmonger until 1939, when war came, and suddenly they wanted him to be Prime Minister to clean up the previous five years of appeasement. Nick. f is just like those so-called intellectuals - no common sense whatsoever, and far less savvy than the average tomcat. He knows diddly squat about Islam. Everything is the fault of the US or the Jew. In his PC-addled mind, 9/11 was down to US policies, support for Israel etc (I wonder what he blames Bali, Luxor and Beslan on - please tell us doofus), and nothing to do with the built-in hatred of the infidel that is hard-wired into Muslim minds, turning every Muslim into a potential ticking timebomb - mention Israel and the US and you out a Muslim - it never fails. nick f. is classic proof that having degrees (or two as he says in his case, although I don't believe him) doesn't amount to common sense. Churchill didn't have a degree, in fact he was bottom of the class at school, but unlike the so-called intellectuals of his day, he pegged Hitler. He told us what Hitler would do, but his so-called 'superiors' ridiculed him as an Edwardian warmonger until 1939, when war came, and suddenly they wanted him to be Prime Minister to clean up the previous five years of appeasement.

Nick. f is just like those so-called intellectuals – no common sense whatsoever, and far less savvy than the average tomcat. He knows diddly squat about Islam. Everything is the fault of the US or the Jew. In his PC-addled mind, 9/11 was down to US policies, support for Israel etc (I wonder what he blames Bali, Luxor and Beslan on – please tell us doofus), and nothing to do with the built-in hatred of the infidel that is hard-wired into Muslim minds, turning every Muslim into a potential ticking timebomb – mention Israel and the US and you out a Muslim – it never fails.

]]> By: johncarens http://frontpagemag.com/2010/02/04/defending-the-indefensible/comment-page-1/#comment-18439 johncarens Thu, 04 Feb 2010 23:57:46 +0000 http://frontpagemag.com/?p=48746#comment-18439 ...The Tonkin Gulf resolution was passed, we might note, with super-majorities of Democrats in the Congress and a Democrat in the White House. But, Nick, you are definitely Exhibit "A" of proposition that it is possible to be highly, highly educated, and remain really, really, stupid. …The Tonkin Gulf resolution was passed, we might note, with super-majorities of Democrats in the Congress and a Democrat in the White House. But, Nick, you are definitely Exhibit "A" of proposition that it is possible to be highly, highly educated, and remain really, really, stupid.

]]> By: BS1977 http://frontpagemag.com/2010/02/04/defending-the-indefensible/comment-page-1/#comment-18343 BS1977 Thu, 04 Feb 2010 21:39:45 +0000 http://frontpagemag.com/?p=48746#comment-18343 Cindy.....go away....far away....this is a forum, not free advertising space..... Cindy…..go away….far away….this is a forum, not free advertising space…..

]]> By: xman http://frontpagemag.com/2010/02/04/defending-the-indefensible/comment-page-1/#comment-18401 xman Thu, 04 Feb 2010 21:01:19 +0000 http://frontpagemag.com/?p=48746#comment-18401 Fortunately, not every timebomb goes off, but we have seen 15,000 terrorist atrocities carried out by Muslim terrrorists since 9/11 and heaven knows how many in the preceeding 1,400 years, and even them that won't be an exhaustive list. There will be many more that we don't know about. Nothing shames Muslims more than their defeats at the hands of so-called inferior infidels that prevented them from overrunning infidel lands - at least in the West. Events like the Battle of Vienna, the Reconquista etc are treated as if they happened last week, and not more than 300 or 500 years ago. You could hardly blame Israel or the US for that, but then again, nick.f is an irrational person with typically crackpot 'troofer' views to boot. Fortunately, not every timebomb goes off, but we have seen 15,000 terrorist atrocities carried out by Muslim terrrorists since 9/11 and heaven knows how many in the preceeding 1,400 years, and even them that won't be an exhaustive list. There will be many more that we don't know about.

Nothing shames Muslims more than their defeats at the hands of so-called inferior infidels that prevented them from overrunning infidel lands – at least in the West. Events like the Battle of Vienna, the Reconquista etc are treated as if they happened last week, and not more than 300 or 500 years ago. You could hardly blame Israel or the US for that, but then again, nick.f is an irrational person with typically crackpot 'troofer' views to boot.

]]> By: bardefa http://frontpagemag.com/2010/02/04/defending-the-indefensible/comment-page-1/#comment-18399 bardefa Thu, 04 Feb 2010 20:51:33 +0000 http://frontpagemag.com/?p=48746#comment-18399 After execution, wrap him in bacon and send back to Nigeria..... Our top people have NO SLIGHTEST idea how to fight terrorism, thus "he is just a criminal!". Learn from others. What did others do to stop those acts? Reread what Russians did to caught hijackers, and profile as Israelis do After execution, wrap him in bacon and send back to Nigeria…..

Our top people have NO SLIGHTEST idea how to fight terrorism, thus "he is just a criminal!".
Learn from others.
What did others do to stop those acts?
Reread what Russians did to caught hijackers, and profile as Israelis do

]]> By: Linda Rivera http://frontpagemag.com/2010/02/04/defending-the-indefensible/comment-page-1/#comment-18395 Linda Rivera Thu, 04 Feb 2010 20:18:58 +0000 http://frontpagemag.com/?p=48746#comment-18395 FIREMEN IN SWEDEN ATTACKED BY MUSLIMS - America's future? A hostile Muslim population that sets fires, then attacks firemen when they come to put out the fires... <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PXzqVK6uY8I&feature=player_embedded" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PXzqVK6uY8I&fe...</a> Council on American-Islamic Relations: "Islam isn't in America to be equal to any other faiths, but to become dominant. The Koran, the Muslim book of scripture, should be the highest authority in America, and Islam the only accepted religion on Earth." - Omar Ahmad (CAIR co-founder). ’“One day, millions of men will leave the Southern Hemisphere to go to the Northern Hemisphere. And they will not go there as friends. Because they will go there to conquer it. And they will conquer it with their sons. The wombs of our women will give us victory.” —Former Algerian President Houari Boumedienne’s prophetic warning to Europe in a speech at the U.N. In 1974. EURABIA <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iFgZBAcKcQA&feature=related" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iFgZBAcKcQA&fe...</a> Islam's Intolerance Towards the West <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XOewlNKNIjo&NR=1" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XOewlNKNIjo&NR...</a> FIREMEN IN SWEDEN ATTACKED BY MUSLIMS – America's future?

A hostile Muslim population that sets fires, then attacks firemen when they come to put out the fires…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PXzqVK6uY8I&fe…

Council on American-Islamic Relations: "Islam isn't in America to be equal to any other faiths, but to become dominant. The Koran, the Muslim book of scripture, should be the highest authority in America, and Islam the only accepted religion on Earth." – Omar Ahmad (CAIR co-founder).

’“One day, millions of men will leave the Southern Hemisphere to go to the Northern Hemisphere. And they will not go there as friends. Because they will go there to conquer it. And they will conquer it with their sons. The wombs of our women will give us victory.”
—Former Algerian President Houari Boumedienne’s prophetic warning to Europe in a speech at the U.N. In 1974.

EURABIA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iFgZBAcKcQA&fe…

Islam's Intolerance Towards the West
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XOewlNKNIjo&NR…

]]> By: Linda Rivera http://frontpagemag.com/2010/02/04/defending-the-indefensible/comment-page-1/#comment-18391 Linda Rivera Thu, 04 Feb 2010 20:05:29 +0000 http://frontpagemag.com/?p=48746#comment-18391 BERLIN POLICE UNDER SIEGE FROM MUSLIMS - America's future? <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5RJElADFXyQ&feature=player_embedded" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5RJElADFXyQ&fe...</a> It's WAR against all non-Muslims. A war that has lasted for centuries. Europe's response to war? There is no response. Only acceptance and submission to Islam. Whilst Muslims openly declare their goal is conquest: An authoritative Muslim stated: "Thanks to your democratic laws we will invade you; thanks to our religious laws we will dominate you." <a href="http://www.meforum.org/article/448" target="_blank">http://www.meforum.org/article/448</a> “Soon we will take power in this country. Those who criticize us now, will regret it. They will have to serve us. Prepare, for the hour is near.” — Belgium-based imam, “De Morgen”, Oct. 5, 1994. Cited in Koenraad Elst, “The Rushdie Rules”, Middle East Quarterly, June 1998. In Sweden, many Muslim youth wear a t-shirt proclaiming: "2030-then we take over" In Britain, Sheikh Bakri: "We will use your democracy to destroy your democracy." Leaflets were distributed in major British cities which included slogans such as: "The final hour will not come until the Muslims kill the Jews." Britain's response? "police appeared reluctant to prosecute because the calls to fight the Jews were carefully couched in quotes from the Koran." <a href="http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1370900/Extremist-backs-%27kill-Jews%27-poster.html" target="_blank">http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1370900/Ex...</a> Does Britain believe it's acceptable to call for the RELIGIOUS MURDER of Jews and other innocents because it's in the Koran? In a frightening violation of the Peoples' right to protection, the UK showed respect for the public call to murder non-Muslims because it's in the Koran! PA Muslims CELEBRATE Murder of 3,000 American Innocents 9/11 <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KrM0dAFsZ8k" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KrM0dAFsZ8k</a> BERLIN POLICE UNDER SIEGE FROM MUSLIMS – America's future?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5RJElADFXyQ&fe…

It's WAR against all non-Muslims. A war that has lasted for centuries. Europe's response to war? There is no response. Only acceptance and submission to Islam. Whilst Muslims openly declare their goal is conquest:

An authoritative Muslim stated: "Thanks to your democratic laws we will invade you; thanks to our religious laws we will dominate you." http://www.meforum.org/article/448

“Soon we will take power in this country. Those who criticize us now, will regret it. They will have to serve us. Prepare, for the hour is near.”
— Belgium-based imam, “De Morgen”, Oct. 5, 1994. Cited in Koenraad Elst, “The Rushdie Rules”, Middle East Quarterly, June 1998.

In Sweden, many Muslim youth wear a t-shirt proclaiming: "2030-then we take over"

In Britain, Sheikh Bakri: "We will use your democracy to destroy your democracy."

Leaflets were distributed in major British cities which included slogans such as: "The final hour will not come until the Muslims kill the Jews."

Britain's response? "police appeared reluctant to prosecute because the calls to fight the Jews were carefully couched in quotes from the Koran."
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1370900/Ex…

Does Britain believe it's acceptable to call for the RELIGIOUS MURDER of Jews and other innocents because it's in the Koran? In a frightening violation of the Peoples' right to protection, the UK showed respect for the public call to murder non-Muslims because it's in the Koran!

PA Muslims CELEBRATE Murder of 3,000 American Innocents 9/11
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KrM0dAFsZ8k

]]> By: Linda Rivera http://frontpagemag.com/2010/02/04/defending-the-indefensible/comment-page-1/#comment-18387 Linda Rivera Thu, 04 Feb 2010 19:46:30 +0000 http://frontpagemag.com/?p=48746#comment-18387 Western ruling elites are united with totalitarian Islam to destroy Western civilization. Islamic Infiltration in America's strongly pro-Islam Government. The huge threat to the safety and freedom of America, Israel and the Free World is frightening. Counter-terrorism forces in the FBI are trained by radical Muslim groups. The war on terror is phony. From Pajamas Media: The Islamic Infiltration, Part 1: Inside Our Government, Armed With Our Secrets <a href="http://www.pjtv.com/v/2930" target="_blank">http://www.pjtv.com/v/2930</a> Western ruling elites are united with totalitarian Islam to destroy Western civilization.

Islamic Infiltration in America's strongly pro-Islam Government.
The huge threat to the safety and freedom of America, Israel and the Free World is frightening. Counter-terrorism forces in the FBI are trained by radical Muslim groups. The war on terror is phony.

From Pajamas Media: The Islamic Infiltration, Part 1: Inside Our Government, Armed With Our Secrets
http://www.pjtv.com/v/2930

]]> By: Linda Rivera http://frontpagemag.com/2010/02/04/defending-the-indefensible/comment-page-1/#comment-18386 Linda Rivera Thu, 04 Feb 2010 19:40:50 +0000 http://frontpagemag.com/?p=48746#comment-18386 Watch it and WEEP for the American people. Fall Of The Republic - The Presidency Of Barack H Obama - The Full Movie HQ <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F8LPNRI_6T8&feature=player_embedded" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F8LPNRI_6T8&fe...</a> Watch it and WEEP for the American people.
Fall Of The Republic – The Presidency Of Barack H Obama – The Full Movie HQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F8LPNRI_6T8&fe…

]]> By: Linda Rivera http://frontpagemag.com/2010/02/04/defending-the-indefensible/comment-page-1/#comment-18384 Linda Rivera Thu, 04 Feb 2010 19:37:26 +0000 http://frontpagemag.com/?p=48746#comment-18384 JIHAD Against Americans is UNOPPOSED by Washington Muslim terrorist training camps that teach murder of non-Muslims and violent Islamic conquest of America are allowed. They are not considered the enemy. Homeland security informed America who are regarded as the enemy: peaceful, patriotic Americans - pro lifers, tea party attendees, returning war veterans who risked their lives for America. God help America. worldnetdaily.com 'Chilling' new video: How to slit throats Jihad maneuvers taught at New York compound December 15, 2009 By Bob Unruh A new video released by the Christian Action Network shows Muslim women at a compound in New York state practicing throat-slitting techniques and assault weapons attacks. The video was distributed by the makers of the movie "Homegrown Jihad: The Terrorist Camps Around the U.S.," which documents how a jihadist group has developed dozens of training camps across the nation. WND reported at the time how Jamaat ul-Fuqra has built 35 compounds – mostly in the northeastern corridor of the U.S. ...The U.S. State Department's 1998 "Patterns of Global Terrorism" report notes the organization "seeks to purify Islam through violence." The report continued, "Members have purchased isolated rural compounds in North America to live communally, practice their faith and insulate themselves from Western culture. Fuqra members have attacked a variety of targets that they view as enemies of Islam." CAN, led by Martin Mawyer, has researched Muslims of America for years and has provided its video to the FBI, State Department and Homeland Security. To date, there has been no response from the government, the group said. ..."Gilani has stated he is preparing his members to the Soldiers of Allah, and he's set up the most advanced guerrilla warfare training camps," he said. The organization's "Homegrown Jihad" video includes a chilling scene of Jamaat ul-Fuqra's leader Sheikh Mubarak Gilani telling followers to "act like you're his friend. Then kill him." According to the Religion of Peace website, there have been more than 250 jihad attacks by Muslims around the globe – including two inside the U.S. – in just the last two months.The death toll from the attacks has surpassed 1,400, the report says. <a href="http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=119087" target="_blank">http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pag...</a> New MOA Terror Training Video Exposed <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ebg6AFylios&feature=player_embedded" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ebg6AFylios&fe...</a> JIHAD Against Americans is UNOPPOSED by Washington

Muslim terrorist training camps that teach murder of non-Muslims and violent Islamic conquest of America are allowed. They are not considered the enemy. Homeland security informed America who are regarded as the enemy: peaceful, patriotic Americans – pro lifers, tea party attendees, returning war veterans who risked their lives for America. God help America.

worldnetdaily.com
'Chilling' new video: How to slit throats
Jihad maneuvers taught at New York compound
December 15, 2009

By Bob Unruh

A new video released by the Christian Action Network shows Muslim women at a compound in New York state practicing throat-slitting techniques and assault weapons attacks.

The video was distributed by the makers of the movie "Homegrown Jihad: The Terrorist Camps Around the U.S.," which documents how a jihadist group has developed dozens of training camps across the nation.

WND reported at the time how Jamaat ul-Fuqra has built 35 compounds – mostly in the northeastern corridor of the U.S.

…The U.S. State Department's 1998 "Patterns of Global Terrorism" report notes the organization "seeks to purify Islam through violence."

The report continued, "Members have purchased isolated rural compounds in North America to live communally, practice their faith and insulate themselves from Western culture. Fuqra members have attacked a variety of targets that they view as enemies of Islam."

CAN, led by Martin Mawyer, has researched Muslims of America for years and has provided its video to the FBI, State Department and Homeland Security. To date, there has been no response from the government, the group said.

…"Gilani has stated he is preparing his members to the Soldiers of Allah, and he's set up the most advanced guerrilla warfare training camps," he said.

The organization's "Homegrown Jihad" video includes a chilling scene of Jamaat ul-Fuqra's leader Sheikh Mubarak Gilani telling followers to "act like you're his friend. Then kill him."

According to the Religion of Peace website, there have been more than 250 jihad attacks by Muslims around the globe – including two inside the U.S. – in just the last two months.The death toll from the attacks has surpassed 1,400, the report says.
http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pag…

New MOA Terror Training Video Exposed
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ebg6AFylios&fe…

]]> By: Linda Rivera http://frontpagemag.com/2010/02/04/defending-the-indefensible/comment-page-1/#comment-18381 Linda Rivera Thu, 04 Feb 2010 19:32:03 +0000 http://frontpagemag.com/?p=48746#comment-18381 (CAIR) Council on American-Islamic Relations: "Islam isn't in America to be equal to any other faiths, but to become dominant. The Koran, the Muslim book of scripture, should be the highest authority in America, and Islam the only accepted religion on Earth." - Omar Ahmad (CAIR co-founder). Addressing a youth session at the 1999 Islamic Association for Palestine's annual convention in Chicago, CAIR (Council on American-Islamic Relations) founder Omar Ahmad praised suicide bombers who "kill themselves for Islam," <a href="http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=52184" target="_blank">http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ART...</a> THERE HAS NEVER BEEN A WAR ON TERROR. U.S. Airport Security is Deliberately and Shockingly Destroyed for Islam: <a href="http://www.worldnetdaily.com" target="_blank">www.worldnetdaily.com</a> Controversial Muslim group gets VIP airport security tour Feds show CAIR latest screening steps, sensitive counterterrorism procedures August 18, 2006 The Department of Homeland Security took a Muslim group with known past ties to terror organizations on a VIP tour of security operations at the nation's busiest airport at the same time British authorities were working to break up a plot to blow up U.S. airlines. On June 21, a senior DHS official from Washington personally guided Muslim officials from the Council on American-Islamic Relations on a behind-the-scenes tour of Customs screening operations at O'Hare International Airport in response to CAIR complaints that Muslim travelers were being unfairly delayed as they entered the U.S. from abroad. CAIR is a spin-off of the Islamic Association for Palestine, identified by two former FBI counterterrorism chiefs as a "front group" for the Palestinian terrorist group Hamas. Several CAIR leaders have been convicted on terror-related charges. During the airport tour, CAIR was taken on a walk through the point-of-entry, Customs stations, secondary screening and interview rooms. In addition, U.S. Customs and Border Patrol agents were asked to describe for CAIR representatives various features of the high-risk passenger lookout system. <a href="http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=51573" target="_blank">http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ART...</a> (CAIR) Council on American-Islamic Relations: "Islam isn't in America to be equal to any other faiths, but to become dominant. The Koran, the Muslim book of scripture, should be the highest authority in America, and Islam the only accepted religion on Earth." – Omar Ahmad (CAIR co-founder).

Addressing a youth session at the 1999 Islamic Association for Palestine's annual convention in Chicago, CAIR (Council on American-Islamic Relations) founder Omar Ahmad praised suicide bombers who "kill themselves for Islam,"
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THERE HAS NEVER BEEN A WAR ON TERROR. U.S. Airport Security is Deliberately and Shockingly Destroyed for Islam:

http://www.worldnetdaily.com
Controversial Muslim group
gets VIP airport security tour
Feds show CAIR latest screening steps,
sensitive counterterrorism procedures
August 18, 2006

The Department of Homeland Security
took a Muslim group with known past ties to terror organizations on a VIP tour of security operations at the nation's busiest airport at the same time British authorities were working to break up a plot to blow up U.S. airlines.

On June 21, a senior DHS official from Washington personally guided Muslim officials from the Council on American-Islamic Relations on a behind-the-scenes tour of Customs screening operations at O'Hare International Airport in response to CAIR complaints that Muslim travelers were being unfairly delayed as they entered the U.S. from abroad.

CAIR is a spin-off of the Islamic Association for Palestine, identified by two former FBI counterterrorism chiefs as a "front group" for the Palestinian terrorist group Hamas.

Several CAIR leaders have been convicted on terror-related charges.

During the airport tour, CAIR was taken on a walk through the point-of-entry, Customs stations, secondary screening and interview rooms. In addition, U.S. Customs and Border Patrol agents were asked to describe for CAIR representatives various features of the high-risk passenger lookout system.
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ART…

]]> By: Linda Rivera http://frontpagemag.com/2010/02/04/defending-the-indefensible/comment-page-1/#comment-18377 Linda Rivera Thu, 04 Feb 2010 19:23:21 +0000 http://frontpagemag.com/?p=48746#comment-18377 It was well known by the Authorities that the Ford Hood Muslim terrorist killer was a significant terrorist threat. The Authorities are guilty of allowing the massacre of innocents to take place. Instead of showing grief and asking for America's forgiveness for the slaughter of innocents, our leaders informed us that their greatest concern was that there might be a backlash against Muslims. Are the lives of non-Muslims regarded as EXPANDABLE? Horrifying, but not a surprise, as America learned that Homeland Security does NOT regard Muslim terrorists as the enemy. The ones Homeland Security said should be watched: patriotic Americans - pro-lifers, tea party attendees, returning military from the war who risked their lives for America. It was well known by the Authorities that the Ford Hood Muslim terrorist killer was a significant terrorist threat. The Authorities are guilty of allowing the massacre of innocents to take place. Instead of showing grief and asking for America's forgiveness for the slaughter of innocents, our leaders informed us that their greatest concern was that there might be a backlash against Muslims. Are the lives of non-Muslims regarded as EXPANDABLE?

Horrifying, but not a surprise, as America learned that Homeland Security does NOT regard Muslim terrorists as the enemy. The ones Homeland Security said should be watched: patriotic Americans – pro-lifers, tea party attendees, returning military from the war who risked their lives for America.

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