This was the flavor of the Q & A:
Q: How do you not expect a backlash when Muslims killed nearly 3,000 people? Where is Imam Faisal and where is the funding going to come from?
Gamal: Those were not Muslims – they are not my brothers and sisters and this is not our belief system. We never have anticipated such a backlash to our project so this is a surprise.
Ms. Khan: It’s the start of the month of Ramadan in which Muslims fast from sunrise to sunset and in this time Imam Faisal is travelling to build bridges.
Q: Where will the funding come from?
Gamal: We have not raised funds yet but we will not accept any funds that compromise American values.
Q: What is the mission statement of the Cordoba Center?
Gamal: The project’s name is Park 51. It will be like a YMCA and promote tolerance and understanding between people.
Woman in the audience: The YMCA is a secular place.
Me: If you are a feeling, caring American how come you were not aware that this location might be problematic? And since you purchased the property in 2005, how have you spent the last 5 years in outreach, bridge-building, garnering community support and fund raising?
Gamal: I never thought the location would be such a sore point and no, we did not do any outreach until now. I honestly never thought I would be sitting here giving a defense. I can’t imagine what all the fuss is about.
Me: How naïve can you be not to be aware that this location is sensitive to Americans? Are you not concerned that a majority of Americans are against this project going ahead at this location?
Gamal: I honestly did not think the location would be a problem. We need the space.
Me: Are you going to get funds from outside the U.S.? (I asked this 3 times)
Gamal: I can’t answer that question.
Q: Why not move to another location?
(No response)
Mike (a retired New York City Police officer): You are very good at filibusters and you have not said anything right tonight.
Q: Historically mosques have been built in places of conquest and why have the larger Muslim communities not come out to support you? Why do the Imams not condemn the terrorists?
Ms. Khan: There have been no new terrorist attacks because of our diligence as Muslims.
Man in the audience: It’s offensive of you to say this. There have been no new attacks because of our police system and the FBI.
Firemen # 1: I was at 9/11. This project is insensitive and insulting because we saw TV images of Muslims celebrating the 9/11 tragedy around the world. Now I’m supposed to embrace the idea of a mosque at that very spot? Can you build it somewhere else?
Fireman # 2: Building it where you are is pouring salt on my wounds and I resent that. You say you need a mosque. We need our twin towers back. Can you help rebuild those?
Fireman # 3: No construction worker, no fireman or police officer who wears a cap saying Never Again, will work on this project and I hope it fails. I hope you don’t get the funds to make this happen. I hope you discard this project.
After attending this meeting, I discovered was that there was no transparency, no honest answers and therefore no sincerity of intention. Mr. Gamal was like a used car salesman: contradicting himself, prevaricating and being evasive. He spoke about everything except the make and model of the car. Ms. Khan was described by one of the women as a “cult-type leader” because she answered every question with a lecture about Islam.
I suspect that the organizers already have a green light from the US State Department or the White House. Otherwise they would not have been so arrogant as to ignore the cries of the victims and their friends and families. They did not care for the opinions of the community, when clearly the majority of those present were against the project.
Ms. Basnicki who was with me, has this to say:
“I went to this meeting with mixed feelings. I was eager to assert that as a Canadian I found it easy to accept religious tolerance. However I left the meeting with even more confusion. Simple questions such as where is the funding coming from for this $100 million center, renamed Park51 were not answered. This was not a bridge building meeting……..it caused greater unease and a much larger gulf.”
FP: Did Gamal or anyone of his people get in touch with you again?
Raza: There were no subsequent phone calls. The threat does not worry me because it’s an act of cowardice by people who have subversive agendas. What concerns me is the complete denial by El Gamal that the call was ever made from his office. But I saved the number on my cell and it matches that of Mr. Gamal’s Soho Properties offices in New York.
A lie is the first and last indicator of a person trying to hide something. For me, that says it all
FP: What do you think Imam Rauf, Daisy Khan and Sharif El Gamal are really up to on building this mosque? What do you think about that as a Muslim?
Raza: I think it’s all about real estate, greed and money. They really don’t care about the sentiments of Americans and this has shown through by my meeting with Daisy Khan and Mr. El Gamal with the 9/11 survivors and their families.
I am more than 99% sure that part of the funding is going to come from sources that danced on the streets when the murder of humanity and destruction of the twin towers took place.
As a Muslim I want to make it clear to fellow Muslims and your readers that we have to draw a clear line between the heinous agenda of political Islamists and people who wish to practice our faith in its spiritual sincerity and follow its non-violent message.
Unfortunately those supporting the ongoing building of the Mosque are more enamored with Michael Moore’s anti-American stance than they are with pure Qur’anic teachings which tell us to be sensitive and compassionate when interacting with those who are not part of our faith, and the example of the Prophet who did not allow building of a mosque at a place which would be contentious.
FP: Raheel Raza, we’ve run out of time, thank you for joining us. I would like to follow up with you on your recent collision with Tariq Ramadan. Frontpage readers stay tuned.
This is a start, but don't praise her too much. She still repeats the erroneous claim that Serbians raped Muslims and committed genocide in Bosnia. Since when is self defence against jihad "genocide"? Also, the "rapes" were proven to be fabricated.
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The lady sincerely helps to reveal the plot of the 9/11 mosque: thank her for that.
Yet naming herself a Moslem is obfuscating (to put it mildly). Just as her claim as though…
"… pure Qur’anic teachings which tell us to be sensitive and compassionate when interacting with those who are not part of our faith, and the example of the Prophet who did not allow building of a mosque at a place which would be contentious."
Perhaps she sincerely believes as though a few polite commandments that she picked as "her faith" comprise entire Islam…
Anyway, why do Moslems move into predominantly Christian or secular countries with intention to remain Moslems? Who else would do it? Do people flee from communist regimes to remain communists in the host country?
"why do Moslems move into predominantly Christian or secular countries with intention to remain Moslems?"
All agree that, whether or not it is a dominant element in Islam, Islam has a strong religious componant. Immigrants regularly retain their religion when they come to America.
The question should not be, 'why remain Muslim when moving to America'. The question should be, 'why don't Muslims coming to America want to become Americans? Why do they retain their political identity rather than develop an American identity ? Why do Muslims come here to change us rather than to adapt to our nation and culture ?
How a Moslem may become American?! Isn't it an oxymoron? Being an American involves not only loyalty, but also cultural and religious – i.e. Judeo-Christian – identity.
Yes, immigrants (people in general) do retain their religion. Thus they seemingly MUST care what is the religious identity and the dominant religion in the host country. And they seemingly MUST NOT move into a country where they are minority. And the host country MUST NOT receive immigrants diluting its national identity.
Moslems come because they can, because they can do the system, and also to be on mission of spreading Islam.
In Islam, force is the only real morality.
Stamping out the first terrorist attacks will save you from engaging in a prolonged struggle. That means doing it with decisive finality. This is a simple truth that every Middle Eastern country, but Israel understands. And a simple fact that every Muslim country understands, but the United States does not. Throw a dart at any major Muslim nation, and you find repression, mass graves and even genocide. Indonesia, Sudan, Iran, Iraq, Somalia, Turkey– it never ends. There's a very simple reason for that. In Islam, force is the only real morality. More at : http://israelagainstterror.blogspot.com/2010/07/i…
"You are so right and you can see the Truth in front of your great face", Thank you one million times,
What this woman is doing is doing her best to make us all into fools in the old ideals of Islamization. The next move is to attack the kids with Muslim BS Make the Kid to attack others and the last move is the evil one wins.
We shoukd wake up : Peace with Islam is utopian.
The hysterical violence of terrorism is the response of Muslims who identify their personal honor with that of Islam as a whole. It is the intersection of the tribal and the theological, the same family honor that causes fathers to kill their daughters, is behind the suicide bombings in the name of the Jihad. A non-Muslim who is in any way better than a Muslim, dishonors him individually. A country of infidels superior to Muslim countries dishonors all of Islam. A Muslim leader who makes a deal with an infidel, dishonors Islam, and is murdered for it. A Muslim country that lives in peace with infidels, will have terrorists rise up to try and overthrow it. We must fight Islam with the will to crush it. Consult : http://israelagainstterror.blogspot.com/2010/06/n…
Thanks for your insights, they are most needed. Too many people think of islam as just another religion, and fail to realize that it is an ideology rooted in violence, supremacy and death, as you so aptly pointed out. Islam has no place in a society which respects life, liberty and human rights. In America, it is absolutely incompatible with the Constitution, our rule of law, and our beliefs. A true muslim cannot possibly be an American who embraces American values, no more than a true vegetarian can be a meat eater. In our political correct society we have become unable to call a spade a spade, and in the name of tolerance we will tolerate intolerance, which is a hallmark of islam. Just look at what's happening in the Netherlands, one of the most tolerant nations on earth. Dutch citizens have death warrants (by beheading) on them, for daring to speak out against the atrocities of islam, i.e. honor killings, female genital mutilation and such. If we cherish freedom and justice, islam must be crushed as an ideology.
It gowa further than that.
The Koran itself (3:110) tells Muslims they are the BEST.
The Koran also tells Muslims that non-Muslims are "the worst of living creatures" (k8:22) and the" vilest of animals" (K8:55, 98:6) just to make sure they know of their "superiority".
It also tells Muslims that non-Muslims are "an open enemy" to Muslims (K4:101) and hated by "allah" (K4:10) and therefore to be hated by Muslims under the doctrine of Al-Wara' Wal-Bara'.
There are all the verses commanding violence against non-Muslims of which K9:29 is, perhaps, the best known.
(I haven't even bothered with the Hadith.)
The point I'm making is that this "personal honour" RB spoke about is inherent within the teachings of Islam and not the perquisite of some honour-obsessed fringe.
She is a muslim. They are born with taqiyya, and so cannot ever be believed!!! Look!! here is a good muslim, see, they are not all bad. Well yes they are, they are all animals, lying animals who think it is alright to rape children and stone women to death!!!
Islam is just as useful for a theopolitical agenda today as Shinto was during WWII. Today millions of Japanese still practice Shinto, but State Shinto as a driver of nationalism and imperialism is dead. It is possible that the same can be done for Islam… provided that enough Muslims are convinced to take a good, hard look at their faith and explicitly reject the parts which drive it towards conqest and power.
FAR too much time has passed, far too many lives cut short, far too many people have taken the Qu'rân's message to heart worldwide for Islâm to EVER be tameable the way Shinto (which was restricted to Japan) has been!!!
The only way to really deal with this is for all "devout" Muslims to be expelled from the West, all Western people to leave "dar al-Islâm", cut any and all commerce between the West and the Islâmic world to the bare minimum possible and put crippling restrictions upon that SYSTEM in the West in direct proportion to what is done in Saudi Arabia!!
"She is a muslim. They are born with taqiyya, and so cannot ever be believed!!! "
A little cynicism and skepticism about Muslims and their intentions may be reasonable. But this is excessive.
Maybe we do have some allies and potential allies among Muslims ? I would like to find out and blanket rejection will never help us identify those who are, in their hearts and minds, friendly to us and to freedom.
I'm sure this lady sincerely believes that there is a moderate aspect of islam. Still, we must never fall pray to the fundamentally flawed argument that because a nice person believes something it must be true. Sadly, should the world caliphate manifest in North America, she would be among the first beheaded, because of her progressive views.
Islam is evil, inherently evil. The religion of peace is doing an end run around freedom and democracy while our leaders pontificate that "it's only a tiny radical minority which is causing all the trouble." Our parents and grandparents clearly understood that national socialism and international communism were evil forces which must be resisted and overcome, even though many fine individuals were, no doubt unjustly, sequestered beneath their banners.
Why must we believe that a belief system is benign simply because its spokespersons classify it as a religion? The Manson family, the Branch Dravidian and the Jonestown cult all classified themselves as religions; surely it's up to us to decide whether a given body qualifies as a religion or not.
Islam is a cancer, and only radical surgery will save the patient's life.
RAHEEL RAZA: "I think it’s all about real estate, greed and money."
She's overlooked the single most important objective of Park 51: To flood the neighborhood with a large Muslim presence so that Ground Zero never becomes an effective infidel rallying-point for the coming battles between freedom and Islam.
I take Ms. Raza with a major grain of salt. While she sonds reasonable, I couldn't disagree more with her statement that "It's all about real estate, greed and money". It's all about superioriy, triumph and victory over infidels, that's what it's all about. And her statemtnets about "… pure Qur’anic teachings which tell us to be sensitive and compassionate when interacting with those who are not part of our faith, and the example of the Prophet who did not allow building of a mosque at a place which would be contentious." If she really believes that, she's not following the true teachings of the koran. Islam is not remotely a religion of peace, but one of war, violence, conquest, supplantaion, deceit and death. The "prophet" was a very violent man who waged war against anyone who didn't submit to his claims. He was also a sicko pedophile. The notion of mohammed considering people's sensitivities is laughable. it was because of his invasions and terrors that the Crusades came to be. As far as I'm concerned, a good muslim is a non-muslim.
I concure!!! There is no reform in Islam and no reformer should refer to the teaching of Muhammad. The "Prophet" was a trecherous person as Islam is, was and will be. From 1.3 billions of Muslims in the world the only real thinkers has LEFT Islam.
Islam is a prison for the mind and only few managed to overcome it. Thes are the ONLY brave people in all of Islam.
Someone once asked me how it was possible to reform Islam. I replied "Start over". To be a "moderate" Muslim, you have to disregard the following ayas –
Don't bother to warn the disbelievers. Allah has blinded them. Theirs will be an awful doom. 2:6
Allah has sickened their hearts. A painful doom is theirs because they lie. 2:10
Allah has blinded the disbelievers. 2:17-18
A fire has been prepared for the disbelievers, whose fuel is men and stones. 2:24
Disbelievers will be burned with fire. 2:39, 2:90
Allah stamped wretchedness upon the Jews because they killed the prophets and disbelieved Allah's revelations. 2:61
Allah turned the Sabbath-breaking Jews into apes. 2:65-66
If you believe in only part of the Scripture, you will suffer in this life and go to hell in the next. 2:85
Allah has cursed them for their unbelief. 2:88
The curse of Allah is on disbelievers. 2:89
Jews are the greediest of all humankind. They'd like to live 1000 years. But they are going to hell. 2:96
Allah is an enemy to the disbelievers. 2:98
Only evil people are disbelievers. 2:99
For disbelievers is a painful doom. 2:104
Don't question anything Muhammed says or choose disbelief over faith. 2:108
"But those who keep their duty to Allah will be above them [non-muslims] on the Day of Resurrection." 2:212
For unbelievers: ignominy in this world, an awful doom in the next. 2:114
Thanks for taking the time to reference facts straight from the horse's mouth. Out of this abominable book come the laws, "sharia". Here's the link to a piece Fromtpagemag published recently. http://frontpagemag.com/2010/08/27/sharia-for-dum…
Still think islam is a moderate or peaceful religion? If it has been hijacked, it's by those who have decided to ignore and disobey the koran, basically to be nominal and secular muslims. Since apostasy is punishable by death, it's probably safe to say that those who disregard all this crap in the koran keep their opinions to themselves. They should find the courage to rise up and fight, but that tends to be an American virtue.
The only way I could possibly accept that a muslim is "moderate" would be for that person to "turn the other cheek" when confronted with a vicious mocking of Islam. I'd like to see the lady's reaction to the following videos:
http://tinyurl.com/27gcfnb
If she could sit through one of these without flying into a wall punching fit of righteous muslim anger, I might accept her claims to being moderate. I doubt she could, however, nor could any other muslim who truly follows the teachings of muhammad.
Man, you is one sick puppy! Warning: Derrick Rasmussen is a pornographer. I am not a Muslim. Islam is a sickness but Derrick Rasmussen's polemic is sickness as well. Rated X.
This woman is naive. The purpose of the mosque is to be used as a staging ground for promoting and furthering Islam inside America. a good portion of the floor space set aside for in this project will be used in working towards that goal.
While there are peaceful Muslims, there is no such thing as peaceful Islam, both violent and stealth versions of the jihad work towards one aim, and one aim only, the expansion of the Islamic community and increasing its political clout.
While the mega mosque planned for Ground Zero is indeed an insult and a provocation to all New Yorkers and to the rest of America, where it finally ends up being built will not make it any less of a provocation and any less of a danger.
Muslims must be sent a very clear message, that they are free to practice their religion, but that sharia and political Islam will not be tolerated on American shores.
I am eager to hear more from Muslims like yourself, Ms. Raza. I knew that folks like you were out there and I was certain that Mr. Glazov would help us connect. You have a huge audience out here who are eager to hear from Muslims who want to freely practice their faith but not kill or subjugate the rest of the us who want to freely practice ours here in the United States. Practicing or not practicing a faith is part of the freedom that we have here in the United States. It's when the religion become the law of the land and must be obeyed, the problems arise.
How exciting a moderate Muslim, which is only saying someone who is either disobedient or indiffernt to its doctrines. Her saying "pure Qur’anic teachings which tell us to be sensitive and compassionate when interacting with those who are not part of our faith, and the example of the Prophet who did not allow building of a mosque at a place which would be contentious." This statement is what makes the real dimmies come in their pants, believing that there is such a thing as a moderate Muslim and we really can have world peace after all. Hog wash and it's this very view from the so called moderate Muslim that's going to make this war so hard to fight. elmore
Where exactly in the koran does it say, "pure Qur’anic teachings which tell us to be sensitive and compassionate when interacting with those who are not part of our faith, and the example of the Prophet who did not allow building of a mosque at a place which would be contentious." Chapter and verse please. I don't recall seeing anything even resembling something like that. Enlighten me please, Ms. Raza.
Actually, I had a thought that it might have something to do with keeping Kahn's social status…allow her to have a job where she gets invited to parties, rub shoulders with mayors, etc. A mashing of western non-profit with religion and politics.
This is not to say that others involved don't have other motives.
Raheel Raza is a moderate muslim and a member of the Muslim Canadian Congress that fights with the jihadists and sharia supporters, and accepts to practice their religion within the setting of liberal democracy. Ms Raza is an intelligent, courageous, decent woman. That's all that counts here. People who say there are no moderate muslims are ignorant, as ignorant in fact as the jihadists. They don't know of the deep divides inside the Islamic world, for example the 'racism' of the Arabs toward blacks even if they are muslims: the 'a' word (abid/abeed – slave) is everywhere. In fact the Arabs consider themselves a super-race and look down on non-Arab muslims as 'mawali', a word which has strong derogatory connotations. This naturally creates tension with intelligent muslims who are non-Arab, and which guarantees – other than the Sunni/Shia split there will be plenty of variations of Islam (and muslim infighting) around the world. The problem of course is that people like Ms. Raza are without grass roots and influence in the mosques dominated currently by the 'salafiya' and Iran-sponsored Shiite fanatics.
Wordcrunch991:
"Ms Raza is an intelligent, courageous, decent woman. That's all that counts here."
I am not going to dispute this. The problem is that Islam IS the problem. Islam is an evil ideology of totalitarianism and subjugation of non-Muslims. Read the Quran and the Hadith and the life of Muhammad and we see that Islam is basically a dichotomy of religiosity and doing good amongst Muslims but evil and deceit and subjugation is OK towards non-Muslims. Ms Raza may be intelligent, courageous , decent etc. but if she really is HONEST about Islam, she should RENOUNCE Islam!
And I continue:-
Her form of 'moderate Islam' is NOT the Islam thought by Muhammad! She is not a 'moderate' Muslim judged by the (evil) 'standards' of the Quran and Hadith. By those standards, she is NOT a true Muslim and is in fact an apostate. To non-Muslims, she is considered a 'moderate', to devout Muslims who really follow Islam, she is an apostate- as bad or worse than non-Muslims. Let's not become fuzzy about the real enemy, the ideology that leads to tyranny and terror : Islam. Ms Raza may think herself as a moderate Muslim but if she is honest then she is honestly WRONG that the Quran teaches sensitivity and compassion towards unbelievers. She has failed to tell us about the doctrine of abrogation in the Quran when the earlier teachings of 'sensitivity' towards unbelievers in earlier Surahs(when Muhammad was not yet a power to reckon with) were later abrogated with a command to subjugate and destroy non-Muslims(when Muhammad became a conquering warlord).
"People who say there are no moderate muslims are ignorant, as ignorant in fact as the jihadists."
There ARE moderate Muslims, they are perhaps the 'majority' – which can be divided into 1.)Those who no longer believe in Islam but are afraid to renounce their faith(I think this is an insignificant minority). 2.)Those who have an internal conflict within them – a conflict between ideas of freedom of conscience and morality versus the immorality in Islam ; these tend to 'reinterpret' the Quran and Hadith and Islam to soothe their conscience(maybe Ms Raza belongs to this group?) 3.) Muslims ignorant of the true teachings of Islam but desire to be pious and think Islam is the best and ONLY true religion and look up to the clerics and whatever they tell them(the majority): these can easily be turned to jihadists when they begin to dwell more into their religion and 4.) Pro-jihadists who appear to be 'moderates' but are wolves in sheep clothings – many are apologists and involved in public relations for Islam or intellectual double-speak.
All that matters is that Islam is an evil and totalitarian ideology. Period.
And finally:-
To non-Muslims – all those 4 categories are moderates.
To Muslims who REALLY follow Islam, category # 1 are infidels and apostates worthy to be killed. Category # 2 requires reeducation in pure Islamic teaching madrassahs and mosques – if they 'repent' they are forgiven, if not – same treatment as category #2. Category # 4 are either moles sent to infiltrate non-Muslim communities for dakwah(proselytizing) and to divide the sentiments of non-Muslims from recognizing the real enemy:Islam. Category # 3 are potential jihadists , potential armies, and their migration and reproductive fecundity in non-Muslim nations would ensure a final Islamization and subjugation of those host countries.
"People who say there are no moderate muslims are ignorant, as ignorant in fact as the jihadists."
There ARE moderate Muslims, they are perhaps the 'majority' – which can be divided into 1.)Those who no longer believe in Islam but are afraid to renounce their faith(I think this is an insignificant minority). 2.)Those who have an internal conflict within them – a conflict between ideas of freedom of conscience and morality versus the immorality in Islam ; these tend to 'reinterpret' the Quran and Hadith and Islam to soothe their conscience(maybe Ms Raza belongs to this group?) 3.) Muslims ignorant of the true teachings of Islam but desire to be pious and think Islam is the best and ONLY true religion and look up to the clerics and whatever they tell them(the majority): these can easily be turned to jihadists when they begin to dwell more into their religion and 4.) Pro-jihadists who appear to be 'moderates' but are wolves in sheep clothings – many are apologists and involved in public relations for Islam or intellectual double-speak.
All that matters is that Islam is an evil and totalitarian ideology. Period.
I DO have respect and appreciation for Ms. Raza.
However, the respect and admiration has its limits. As a Canadian I regularly see her on the TV airwaves professing for 'moderate' muslims.
She has good ideas. Seriously….
Mind you these same ideas put her firmly outside of the circle of Islam.
I group her in with her buddy/'co-worker' Tarek Fatah.
They often appear on the same Christian network show discussing Islam.
(I'm an atheist but record it to see what the conversations are about…)
At one time I would look at these two Muslims, and others like them, and have some compassion/empathy for them.
Perhaps they only keep one foot in Islam (ie: remain a pisspoor muslim; moderate) for the safety and well being of their relatives in Muslim countries?
But as soon as that thought comes to mind, so does this one:
"Wouldn't it be safest for their relatives back in Whateverstan if they didn't get on Canadian TV and discuss Islam at all??"
As for her quote of '…pure Qur’anic teachings which tell us to be sensitive and compassionate when interacting with those who are not part of our faith, and the example of the Prophet who did not allow building of a mosque at a place which would be contentious.'
Really? Was it not contentious when Mohammed stormed back into Mecca and the pagan Arabs' temple/mosque and destroyed their 360 idols??
What about when the Muslim armies destroyed Hindu Temples, crushing the Idols into gravel, and using the gravel to pave mosque sidewalks and such?? (ie: the muslims walk on the desecrated Hindu Idols…)
If that's not contentious behaviour than I'm free to convert a Ko-Ran into a new bathroom carpet!
To Mr. Glazov:
Although I can understand your empathy for Ms Raza , the title of your article can lead readers to become confused about what Islam and being a true Muslim(i.e. one who follows all the teachings of Muhammad in the Quran and wish to intimate himself/herself to be like Muhamamd in every way by reading the Hadith) really is. Ms Raza declares herself to be a true Muslim. The standards of Quran which proclaims jihad as a Muslim duty nullifies her claims to be a true Muslim or a devout one as she promotes ideas that are contrary to the doctrines in Islam. Islam is unreformable because its inherent morality is moral bankruptcy. There is no point in promoting such a person as Ms Raza however much one emphatizes with her. Promoting her just confuses non-Muslims that Islam(the ideology) can actually be 'moderate' and compatible with the notions of morality and humanity found in the other great religions like Christianity, Judaism and Buddhism or even human freedoms and rights. We must be clear about Islam and do not lay down our guard towards its pernicious and venomous influence.
1.3 billion Muslims in the world.
Perhaps people such as Ms. Raza can pioneer a 'new Islam' that is not racist, violent, and deceitful ? Without our respect she and others like her will have no hope at all.
And WE need a 'new Islam' as much as she does.
Another courageous Muslim from Canada:
http://www.torontosun.com/comment/columnists/sali…
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For Raheel Raza to hold the beliefs she has and express them, she has my admiration. More moderates need to stand with her and expose the extremists in our midst that will kill Muslim, Christian and Jew to further their Islamo-fascist cause of world domination.
I do love this and I do agree with this one "A Badge of Muslim Courage: Raheel Raza"
Oh, and if I may add………
The last time I saw Raheel Raza on a major news channel in Canada she was discussing the recent arrest of terror suspects in the Ottawa area (month or so back)…….
What left a bad taste in my mouth was her statement along the lines of 'We need to reach out to these young muslims adopting, and the imams preaching an outdated doctrine of jihad'……..
OUTDATED?
The Ko-Ran is good for all of eternity, Mohammed is the supreme example to muslims, and Mohammed declared that he had been commanded by allah to fight until all religion was for allah.
Taking that into consideration, and looking at the billions of non-muslims in the world, how exactly does she surmise that the jihad is outdated or even completed?
The dhimmi interviewing her appeared dumbfounded when she referred to a 'doctrine of jihad'…..
Dumbfounded, but clearly not curious; he made no attempt at a follow-up question.
If anything, he looked bothered to be discussing the subject of Islam, and came across as spineless and afraid for his own safety should a 'haram' soundbite come from his precious, tax-payer-funded (CBC) program.
I've seen this same dhimmi reporter repeatedly cut off Ayan Hirsh Ali in an interview, so yeah……….. (roll of the eyes)
Are their any groups/sects of muslims who also believe that jihad is no longer obligatory on muslims??
YES, the Ammediyya community, based in Pakistan quickly comes to mind.
The Sunni Pakistanis' favourite heretic whipping boys!
To the point that they aren't allowed to call themselves 'muslim' or their place of worship a 'mosque'…….. hmmmmmm
Muslims like Raheel who pick and choose what they want from Islam lend the ENTIRE 'religion' a degree of credibility. But in doing so, they unwittingly support the real muslims who swallow it all, hook-line-and-trigger.
Now, in an odd comparison, I will try to relate to the cherry-picker muslims:
I'm white while my girffriend is a secular Indian (born in Mumbai.)
Should I expect my girlfriend not to be bothered if i subscribe to the KKK's newsletter JUST for the recipes??
NO, she'd be well-deserving in being bothered with me.
Just as we are well-deserving to reject and condemn ANYTHING coming from the brain of a degenerate like Mohammed.
There are Muslims who may have sincerity in their belief, but to go against Mohammed's word is to violate Islam, and eventually be declared an Apostate.
Anyone assuming they can stay a Muslim and alter Allahs words is naive, or practicing Takya for the defeat of Infidels.
Read the Hadith, Surrahs and the Koran, there is no changing Islam's aim,PERIOD.
THE FLAME OF FREEDOM SPEAKS!
"suspect that the organizers already have a green light from the US State Department or the White House."
I have to ask what agenda this Canadian Muslim lady has given her odd assertion above.
Being Canadian,it really is none of my business where American Muslims chose to build their place of warship(not a slip).Given 9/11,the proposed location does seem odd if not insensitive if not provocative.But Obama was correct in pointing out their right to build where any other place of worship could be built ,e.g.church,synagogue,temple,shrine.As to the bigger question is Islam at war with America or the West,I doubt it.I do know that American and western support for Zionism that has resulted in the effective ethnic cleansing of the Palestinian people from their homeland has not harmed the popularity of anti western fundamentalists in the Muslim world.America could go a long way towards countering such sentiment by acknowledging the crimes against the Palestinians and pressing for a fair settlement.Force the Zionists to the wailing wall,tell them go "cry a river",get behind a moderate Palestinian leader ,force the Israeli's to give till it hurts,then hurts some more.Allow the Palestinians their lost and stolen dignity and land,acknowledge past and present Zionist crimes,learn from past mistakes e.g.Rhodesia-to-Zimbabwe,etc.maybe that will be enough for the beginnings of trust between these two people.There is much to be lost on both sides in a fair and just settlement(both sides may well "walk" away with an amputated limb),but given the history and nature of the conflict maybe the best we can hope for.Muchiboy
The money is coming from the boys at the CIA Its not a joke the boys got the word handed down from Obama the main Rat. The inside bankers are doing the dancing around and around and guess who our boy obama is getting his order from. but the order is not coming from the jews its coming from the big muslim money inside our banking system.
please explain the islanic place of "warship";
nice turn of a phrase…
closest thing to truth in your comment.
You mean, 'It's the Jews fault ?' Please go back to your fantasy world.
it is a memorial to conquest
…and I am sure a bunch of greedy muslims also hope to profit financially at the same time.
until there is a fatwa on obama for leaving islam I will consider him a muslim. because since he was born to a muslim father he becomes a muslim. he can also renounce the religion. he has had chances but refuses to. Just saying he is a christian means nothing.
all the muslims around the world consider him muslim. just the naive Americans don't.
You are right; and sad to say most Americans are really stupid, But the day is coming when Americans will become freedom fighters or become some muslim mass killer MANY WILL BECOME EVIL DOERS But the end Game real Americans will win over total one world evil.
Robert Bermier is right, and do not put any faith in anything a muslims states all hate you and all want a one world muslim/islam hell on earth.
just understand what the muslim did at Cordoba and understand what any muslim is our enemy.
please check out http://www.islamicsolutions.com/what-does-god-wan…
WHY IS THIS WOMAN STILL IN THE ISLAM CULT. SHE SHOULD LEAVE IT AS SOON AS POSSIBLE. WHAT IS SHE AFRAID OF ? ASK HER THIS PLEASE. THANK YOU .
Every time the WEST is about to uncover the Truth about Islam ther will come a Muslim, a "moderate" if you will and pull another veil over our eyes. This woman is no as what she appears to be. Isalm is an ideology of BULLIES but they use Taqqiya as long as there not as strong but as soon as they get strong they will change that "Tolerance" tune. we should not fall for anybody who seems to counter main stream islam which in nature is RADICAL, for if it was not radical we would not have noticed it at all because after all what does it have to sell but its HATE.
Taught in the New Testament:
Rom 13:9 Thou shalt not commit adultery, Thou shalt not kill, Thou shalt not steal, Thou shalt not bear false witness, Thou shalt not covet; and if there be any other commandment, it is briefly comprehended in this saying, namely, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. (Beyond this last Command in Christianity, there are no more Commands)
Taught in the Koran:
Beheadings (047.004) – Racism (005.041) – Gang Rape (033.052) – Crucifixions (005.033) – Genocide (033.061) – Treason – (008.067)
Ms Raza can deny and condemn the violent Muslims until blue in the face, just remember, she STILL brings the Koran with her……because – she is a Muslim. That's what makes her a Muslim in the first place.
Continue….
The following question applies to all – even the atheists….
Which set of rules would you prefer for the young (the next generation) to learn?
Unlike Islam, the God of Christianity clearly condemns the act of FORCING anyone into bowing to Him.
But neither is He mocked, for that which we sow is that which we'll reap.
Let all readers judge for themselves,….is it wise to be feeding the Koran to the young? If your answer is no – then neither is it wise to accept Ms Raza.
This site is for neo-con nuts. You all just pat yourselves on the back, hate the same people and repeat the same rubbish.
Agreed! FP is predictable. Repeats the same one-sided rubbish all the time.
To 'Kate' and 'B. Johnson':-
1.) I am not American.
2.) I am not a 'neo-con'.
3.)Though I don't agree with some stuff in this magazine, FP is right about the evil ideology called Islam.
4.)You both should read up about Islam before you come up with such rubbish comments.
To 'Kate' and 'B. Johnson':-
1.) Go read up the Quran and Hadith and search your conscience and you will maybe have your eyes open.
2.) Some Quran tidbits – can you even remotely try to explain them away to vindicate Islam?
Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued.
(Quran 9:29)
Those who were left behind (in the Tabuk expedition) rejoiced in their inaction behind the back of the Messenger of Allah: they hated to strive and fight, with their goods and their persons, in the cause of Allah: they said, "Go not forth in the heat." Say, "The fire of Hell is fiercer in heat." If only they could understand!
(Quran 9:81)
Some more for 'Kate' and 'B. Johnson':-
Then, when the sacred months have passed, slay the idolaters wherever ye find them, and take them (captive), and besiege them, and prepare for them each ambush. But if they repent and establish worship and pay the poor-due, then leave their way free. Lo! Allah is Forgiving, Merciful.
(Quran 9:5)
How many a township have We destroyed! As a raid by night, or while they slept at noon, Our terror came unto them.
(Quran 7:4)
O Prophet! Exhort the believers to fight. If there be of you twenty steadfast they shall overcome two hundred, and if there be of you a hundred (steadfast) they shall overcome a thousand of those who disbelieve, because they (the disbelievers) are a folk without intelligence.
(Quran 8:65)
Some more, 'Kate' and 'B. Johnson':-
It is not for any prophet to have captives until he hath made slaughter in the land. Ye desire the lure of this world and Allah desireth (for you) the Hereafter, and Allah is Mighty, Wise.
(Quran 8:67)
O ye who believe! Fight those of the disbelievers who are near to you, and let them find harshness in you, and know that Allah is with those who keep their duty (unto Him).
(Quran 9:123)
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