As the crisis in Egypt continues, Western nations are faced with a conundrum of their own making: how does one simultaneously demand that Arabic nations abandon their “7th century” mentality, best represented by oppressive, often totalitarian regimes, even as one knows the current uprisings against such regimes will likely produce results utterly antithetical to Western interests? At this juncture, perhaps the best the West can hope for is clarity.
For the last ten years, both the Bush administration and the Obama administration have worked mightily to convince the American public that the “overwhelming majority” of Muslims are “on our side” with regards to the global war against terror. Yet if that were truly the case, then why has it been necessary to prop up autocratic regimes throughout the region for decades? With respect to Egyptians, a June 2010 Pew opinion survey reveals a decidedly different set of sensibilities: 59% of Egyptians back Islamists while only 27% back modernizers; there is 50% support for Hamas, 30% for Hezbollah and 20% for al Qaeda. 95% of Egyptians would welcome Islamic influence in their political arena.
If Hosni Mubarak’s removal hands Egypt over to the Muslim Brotherhood, one of the most virulent Islamic terrorist organizations in the world, the Obama administration will be roundly criticized for sitting back and “allowing it to happen.” Already columnists in Israel are characterizing the administration’s wait-and-see policy as a “knife to the back.” Perhaps it is. But in one respect, such a policy is hard to distinguish from that of a Bush administration which sat back and allowed Hamas to gain control of the West Bank via a democratic election. Thus, while one can criticize the current administration for a certain level of naivete regarding reality, the idea that an American administration embraces democracy per se, irrespective of the outcome, is hardly new.
Where both administrations have faltered has to do with the idea of believing that democracy and freedom are interchangeable terms, and that the definition of freedom is a commonly understood concept which cuts across cultural boundaries. If the result of the Egyptian democracy movement results in Muslim Brotherhood gaining control of the government–with acquiescence of the Egyptian people–freedom in the Western sense will be nowhere to be found. If the people willingly trade a secular dictatorship for a religious one, it will be a terrible development for the West in every respect but one:
We will be forced to admit that substantial numbers of Muslims, perhaps even a majority, do not embrace Western values.
Such clarity may be the only bright light in an otherwise darkened sky. If the uprisings occurring in the Middle East result in democratically elected religious tyrannies which openly express their hatred of the United States and their desire to destroy Israel, perhaps those long-deluded into believing ideas such as terrorism is a “law-enforcement problem,” or that massive Muslim emigration into Western countries is little cause for concern, or that Western accommodation to Muslim sensibilities must proceed without hesitation, will be snapped out of their delusion. Perhaps phrases like “man-caused disaster” and “overseas contingency operation” will be tossed on the ash heap of history where they belong. Perhaps an Israel completely surrounded by enemies will awaken Jewish liberals in both countries to the utter bankruptcy of their multicultural and morally relative fantasies.
Perhaps those who have long tut-tutted the idea that we may be in the midst of a civilizational struggle will have the blinders removed from their eyes.
You "moderate" muslims better step up and speak now, or forever hold your peace, cause its coming to a head and all muslims will be lumped together. Thats just the way it is. Nations all over the world could have saved themselves a lot of heart ache if moderate people would have been brave enough to stand up and speak the truth about the coming danger, Nazis, Communists, Fascists, …… etc. There are a few brave souls but not enough to stem the tide. There needs to be a loud voice of Muslim opposition to what is happening in the muslim world or your religion may be a thing of the past, a mere historical oddity.
Quran 8:12: Instill terror into the hearts of the unbelievers
Q8:7: Wipe the unbelievers out to the last
Q9:5: Fight and kill the disbelievers wherever you find them, take them captive, torture them
Q 7:3"Little do you remember My warning. How many towns have We destroyed as a raid by night? Our punishment took them suddenly while they slept for their afternoon rest. Our terror came to them; Our punishment overtook them."
There is no such animal as a "moderate Muslim," and they prove it, every day, by their silence when they blow us up. Oh sure, they'll wring their hands and imams will issue condemnation of a generic terrorism (which includes Amerikan and Israeli "terrorism", but they NEVER specifically march in the streets against Muslim extremists: al Qaeda, honor killing, beheadings, 9/11, 7/7, Mumbai, Bali, Breslan — etc., etc. etc.
It is only because of the Internet, Fox News and talk radio that we are, for the first time in Islam's bloody history, that we SEEING the true face of Islam, and it is ugly — and deadly to freedom.
The only place you will find "moderate" Muslims is cowering in their closets. Terrified that regular Muslims will denounce them as "apostates". By the way, the penalty for apostasy in Islam is death.
Can anyone spell out for my benighted brain just what differentiates a "moderate" Muslim from an extremist Muslim?
yes, a moderate muslim kills and destroys anything non muslim, as written in the koran and a extremist sits back and tells non muslims that their religion is one of peace and love and dosen't practice what is written itn the koran ..elmore
A moderate Muslim exists only in the imagination of non-Muslims who do not want to go to the trouble of defending their own beliefs and believe that "moderate Muslims will one day suddenly appear on the scene to stop the "radical" Muslims (which in reality are the only kind that CAN exist.)
Pew Research poll Apr to May, 2010: "A 59%-majority of Muslims in Egypt believed that democracy was preferable to any other kind of government. About one-in-five (22%), however, said that in some circumstances, a non-democratic government could be preferable, and another 16% said it did not matter what kind of government is in place for a person in their situation."
We can't lose credibility by misquoting our sources. The truth will be enough to stop world Islam.
Not exactly…….you need the truth………and a big stick!!
There is no moderate Islam and there are no moderate Muslims. Islam is all radical and all Muslims are jihadis to fulfill their obligation as a Muslim. And it goes without saying all jihadis are radical and terrorists either latent or practicing. Therefore it is a waste of time to go look for those "mythical moderates" which Western intellectuals, leaders and MSM go looking for. These people are all useful idiots for Islam and Muslims. Muslims are quite satisfied with this approach of the West as it gives all Muslims a pass and they go on doing their usual jihadi work without anybody holding them accountable for all the terrorism in the world as they are "moderate" and different than jihadis and we should not band both together. In reality they are all same, practicing the same Islam!! No moderate here!!!
You have NO IDEA what you're talking about
He damned well does. Islam hasn't changed in 1,400 years. It is just as bigoted, backward, infidel-hating and misogynistic today as what it was in 620 AD.
No, he doesn't, and neither do you. You both belong in a mental asylum for the terminally psychopathic.
Hey ahmadnb, it is obvious who belongs to mental asylum and it ain't us!!! You are in denial and would never admit the truth about Islam as world is slowly coming to know. Just wait Islam will be exposed and the nonsense of "moderate Muslim" and "religion of peace" will be thrown in the dustbin of history!!!
Islam has been around for 1,400+ years and is nly being exposed NOW? My, my…aren't you the smart one!
Lies about Islam have been told by anti-Islam types since Islam was founded. Old lies were debunked, only to be replaced by new ones, and some old ones persisted. I'm used to hearing them and they don't move me one bit. I know Islam. You don't. I have nothing to hide about Islam. You're scared to death of it.
God will take care of His own. And nobody owns God.
"We will be forced to admit that substantial numbers of Muslims, perhaps even a majority, do not embrace Western values."
With regard to "what Muslims think"….we DO know that they don't really "embrace Western values".
I tend to agree with what I read from an unfortunately unremembered author: The young men in Muslim countries are brought up with the idea of islam's total superiority, yet they are forced to adopt a type of schizophrenia as they see the corrupt reality versus the "islamic deception"…..
Excellent article.
The problem is that even if there is a "moderate" muslim majority or substantial minority, I suspect only a very small minority is committed to it – would fight for it. No, most would bend with the winds. Should totalitarian Islam reach a certain mass, most of the so-called moderates will jump on the bandwagon and start calling the rest of us "infidel". Until I start seeing consistent, voluminous, outspoken, clear, hard-scrabble commitment from this "moderate" community such that they will get the wind benders to jump on to their bandwagon and start promoting the same, I have to think this way.
Wishful thinking is just about all there is when it comes to a moderate Muslim. I have worked with many Muslim men in restaurants on International Drive Orlando probably because so much of the Drive is owned by Mid Eastern interests. they all seemed peaceful and very friendly, but on the day of the USS Cole bombing as the news came on the radio in the kitchen the every Muslim down to the last who worked in the kitchen, yelled at the top of their lungs, Alaahu Akbar and carried on like it was the forth of July. NO EXAGGERATION. There is an old saying that if an Israeli paratrooper were to land in any country he would find a haven. The fact is just the opposite if any Muslim Terrorist got passed our borders they would have no problem hiding in plain sight. Whether it was out of fear of retribution or the pleasure of seeing the towers fall Alaahu Akbar says it all.
Victor
Thats how it is with Muslims. When news of an atrocity in Israel or the West breaks, out comes the true Muslim. Also, bring the US and/or Israel into a conversation with a Muslim, and it never fails to out them.
Moderate Muslims will not be able to wrest control of the agenda for several reasons. First of all, Mohammed, the Messenger of Allah’s eternal word, was not moderate. Since Mohammed is 'The Perfect Example for Men in all times and places', ( Qur'an 33.21), moderates have no legitimacy when admonishing other Muslims to stop the extremist acts Mohammed himself did. Also, the Qur’an condones violence and coercion to further the Islamic agenda. People whom we call moderates are labeled hypocrites by Allah Himself in the Qur’an. Moderates will always lose the argument because, as ex-Muslim author Ibn Warraq says, “There may be moderates in Islam but Islam itself is not moderate.”
Yes, he was a moderate. You may not believe it, but I do.
Islamic expert Daniel Pipes and others estimate ten percent of the Islamic world to be militant. In 1933 when the Nazi party took control of Germany it had 2 million members, comprising only three percent of Germany’s sixty-six million citizens. A tiny minority of extremists can control a vast number of moderates, making them irrelevant.
Placing hope in ‘The Moderate Muslim’ is like searching for unicorns in the forest.
Zack Highstreet – A Plague on Both Houses
Just so. Nazis were always a minority in Germany. But still, Germany started WW2. 60 million people died.
Hitler, 11/8/38: "Under the rules of Parliamentary Democracy I obtained the absolute majority of votes and today I have the unanimous support of the German people. The only difference lies in the fact that only a fraction of the English votes were cast for Mr. Churchill, while I can say that I represent the whole German people."
20,000 card-caring Bolsheviks of 1917 Russia had taken over a 150,000,000 country. "Moderate" proletarians and peasants thereafter soaked the ground with the blood of millions and millions of the best and brightest of that nation. Those who could – emigrated.
Russia did not and would not recover for decades. Could it…?
I agree with JALADHI! There is no such thing as a moderate Muslim. They all read the same Qur'an and to believe anything else is an invitation to apostasy. I admire the former Muslims who have seen the truth and bravely became apostates!
Just as Hitler was a Catholic?
Get your history straight. Hitler was an atheist. If he practiced anything it was ancient paganism.
If that was the case, why did millions upon millions of German Christians idolize him? Had he died in 1938, he would have gone down in history as Germany's greatest leader and statesman of all time, in spite of his murderous policies.
And just as you are an infidel-hating barbarian.
Who's an infidel? To me, anyone who fights and persecutes anyone who believes in the One True God is an infidel. According to the Qur'an, Jews and Christians can be considered to be believers. Some Muslims can be considered to be on the same plane as infidels (hypocrites). Don't believe me? Look it up, boy.
A simple test: ANY and all moderate Muslims come forward and show the version of Qur’an that you use. Let us see where scrubbed from the text is such calls for the killing of Jews from behind a tree or a rock. Show us where pedophilia is abhorrent instead of legitimized. Show us how Islam is not incongruent with the balance of civilized society norms. Yeah, didn't think you could. Until you do, saying you are a Muslim we must assume you believe in these edicts. Therefore, you cannot be a "moderate" by any definition of the term. YOU…don’t exist.
There is one dominant version of the Qur'an. Muslims differ with regard to how to interpret it. Some take it literally (extremists). But I don't.
And you are a typical lying barbarian, eh pinocchio.
You're nothing but a mentally retarded Klansman with a Swastika on your arm.
What exactly are western values? I am not religious but traditional western values of family, marriage, self reliance and generally following Judeo-Christian principles are what made the west great. I am very anti-Islam but I can understand the rejection of the modern western values of no commitment to marriage, single motherhood, abortion on demand, welfare state gay marriage, legalize drugs, over regulation by govt, large govt, entitlement mentality, no borders UN mindset as well. I hate modern western values. Self discipline and general rules of conduct and morality build civilizations. The Muslims are absolutely correct when they say the west is crumbling and I blame it on the progressive, social justice crowd. I reject modern western values but must fight both Islam and my own govt to try to protect what is left. If we did not have this Muslim invasion we might have turned the tide against the liberals but this is like a 2 front war and I am despondent about the future.
Very well said. Our only hope is that the "silent majority (or minority)" in western countries will eventually arouse themselves to take some action before the barbaric invaders finally take over and use the immense military strength we have developed (although rapidly being depleted) to crush them. But they'll always be back. Centuries of indoctrination are hard to wipe out.
Nice to see that many realize here, that Islam and Democracy are in direct opposition.
No, they're not.
Islam is total subservience to a dogma, created by a pervert called Mohammed.
Allah is a Demonic entity that survives by the energies of all Muslims misplaced devotion.
The only individuals born in Islam we can trust is an Apostate from Islam, of course this makes them subject to a Death, as per Mohammed the perverts words.
The critical activities in Egypt that most likely will benefit the Muslim Brotherhood, is a most critical point as to wether there will develope a full fledged War, between Democracies and all Islam.
The attempt to use the word Democracy with Islam is pure Takiya, as per the edict that lying and deception is an acceptable tool for defending Islam and the Demonic Entity Allah.
We invoke the "SWORD OF TRUTH", so that individuals will fully recognize the perfidity of Allah and Islam, and instead align to true Divinity.
I'm sorry, all I read was "BLAH, BLAH, BLAH, I'm a complete ignoramus".
With all the inbreeding in the Arab world, and brain damage from bumping your head on the floor, it doesn't surprise me that all you would understand is Blah, Blah, Blah.
Of course I won't. Who would? You sound like you've got the intelligence of an ape out in the wild…I'm actually complimenting you here. Grunting, screeching, beating your chest, etc.
Your BRILLIANT intelligence allows you to idolize the perverted paedophile and rapist Mohammed as some messenger of Divinity. YOUR SICK, SICK, SICK.
Of course I'm brillian compared to you. You can't even spell "you're". You spelled it as "your". Makes me wonder if my hard-earned tax dollars have been used to pay for your acid trips and booze…
You want Islam gone? The Nazis tried to wipe out Jews and drowned in a sea of their own blood in the process. Go ahead and believe in all the lies that you want. You're nothing but an uneducated fool with junk food for brains…your junk intellectualism will get you nowhere.
Then, of course, you can always dream of Islam being banned, like John Lennon dreaming about "world peace"…he was on heroin, LSD, cannabis, and perhaps, in the 1970s, PCP as well. How about you?
Keep on being fixated at the level of your crotch with Mohammed's rants agains all infidels.
How much inbreeding is in your family tree?
Vermin cannot have a nest in a house. Planet Earth is my home,and needs purifying.
From Guardians of Democracy.
"Guardians of Democracy"?? Yeah, right. You sound like a commie liberal who's fixated on insullting the Tea Party movement with squeals of "Teabagger!"
Now there was this dirty little Austrian who also called another religion "vermin". Hmmm…maybe it's time for you to dust off that old swastika armband of yours and dream about little boys, and goosestep around in your thong and squeal "Ein Volk, ein reich und ein fuhrer!"
I'f you could read history, you would learn that your fellow play mate Muslims and the Jerusalem Muslim Imam supported Hitler and the Nazis.
In some countries they developed brigades to support the German army.
The more you write, the more stupid you appear.
Yeah you'll earn your bordelo in the sky, with the 72 perpetual virgins, and you won't even need viagra. WOW DREAM ON!
There's no inbreeding in my house. How much is there in yours?? Answer that honestly, please. You sound like you've got a lot to hide…
A recent convert?
You got any Women you want to offer up Circumcision, Stoning or Honor Killings.
Are you a good little pedophile full of hope like Mohammed, remember Aisha?
Are you just Naive, or did you crawl out of a Sewer?
I really don't want you stuck to my shoe.
Study the Grand Mufti of Jerusalem during World War 2.
I'm a lifelong Muslim, boy.
Circumcision? Male only. Stoning? No. "Honor" killings? No.
Muhammad was not a pedophile and neither am I. But I suspect you are. Aisha was one girl…Muhammad married her, and it raised no eyebrows with anyone at the time, not even his enemies. I believe that had he been alive today, he wouldn't have done the same. And let's not forget Safiyyah…a girl of 17 whom he married. She was of Jewish background, and a widow…her former husband was also Jewish and had married her while she was 15 or 16. And wasn't very nice to her, either.
You are a naive fool who did crawl out of the sewer.
I know all about your fellow Nazi the Grand Mufti of Jerusalem. You can thank the British rulers of the Palestinian Mandate for elevating him, in spite of Arab objections.
You throw something at me, expect something worse in return. That's the way I treat fools who are so full of themselves…I cut them down to size and have one hell of a good time doing it..
Mohammed's Words when questioned about Aisha from "Taahrir-ol-Masael":
"A man can marry a girl younger than nine years of age, even if the girl is still a baby being breastfed. A man, however is prohibited from having intercourse with a girl younger than nine, other sexual act such as foreplay, rubbing, kissing and sodomy is allowed. A manhaving intercourse with a girl younger than nine years of aga has not commited a crime, but only an infraction, if the girl is not permanently damaged. If the girl, however, is permanently damaged, the man must provide for her all her life.
Your "Taahrir-ol-Masael" is a liar and a pervert, just like those scum Mullahs in UK who claimed that Muhammad was on welfare while in Mecca, and so it was OK for them to be on welfare in the UK as well.
"Taahrir-ol-Masael" is a book written by Khomeini.
It is a part of Ayatollah Khomeini's Religious Teachings on Marriage, Divorce and Relationships were you will find in the second paragraph what I have posted above,: "other sexual act such as foreplay, rubbing, kissing and sodomy is allowed".
Your dedication to Takiya is drowning you in sewer slime.
Why should I waste my time reading Khomeini's book? He was a fanatical anti-western Shia mullah, while I'm a Sunni with a strong western orientation. This just proves that you're nothing but an idiot. Good grief…I'm sure God has a reason for creating such nimrods…are you genetically an idiot or did you choose to be one? And by the way…how's that "Ban Islam" petition coming along? A little closer to achieving your goals there? HAHAHA!
FYI, I don't even believe in the concept of "Takiya"…that's a Shia concept. I'm a Sunni…we don't have that. Don't believe me? Do your homework, child.
I new you would call yourself a Sunni.
As far as the statements I've sent you about Mohammeds words, I've found other sources. No wonder Aisha's father didn't want Mohammed to have his ceremony of bethrothel when Aisha was 6 years old. The later statements from Mohammed shows what he was up to when being alone in his visits with Aisha after she was six. Keep the alibis coming for Mohammed and your stupid indoctrination. That's what Takita is.
In a cosmic sense you are a pestilence, a disease in the human race.
Your insane laugh is well noted and the Guardians of Democracy know were you are.
The Guardians of Democracy already paid me a visit. Nice folks. We sat around and cracked dirty jokes about you, and I believe they want to deliver a small present for you…but I'm not sure you'll like it, unless you enjoy working in a sewer.
I don't even follow the Hadith…a lot of it was written long after Muhammad had passed on, 150+ years. You can pick and chose what you want and disregard what doesn't fit your warped, narrow worldview.
So, you view me as a pestilence? Well, I view YOU as a pestilence, but I don't worry too much…your limited brain capacity makes you a potential Darwin Awards winner or at least a runner-up sometime down the road. Sure would make for a good laugh once again…
If you don't know the Hadiths and pick and choose , your not even a Muslim.
The more you write the more stupid you appear.
Wanna see a real stupid? Look in the mirror, boy. My religion is between me and God and none of your damn business. What makes you think it's any of yours? And why won't you tell me what religion YOU follow? I don't believe it's Christianity, Judaism, Islam, Hinduism, Buddhism…you would be a black stain on any of the above-mentioned religions. And you KNOW it, which is why you refuse to divulge it. Am I right or what?!?
As a Mystic I aligne to God, beyond the indoctrination of the writtings, though some have very good concepts that I agree with.
Allah is not God but a Demonic entity surviving off of your energies as you submit and bump your heads on the floor.
Mohammeds concept that sexual acts with children such as forplay, rubbing the thighs with
the penis and sodomy, puts him in the realm of a Demonic entity.
Would you allow Mohammed to take care of your child, or would you consider a special blessing.
Your islamic indoctrination and inbred ancestry is affecting your judgement. What are you becoming in Spirit?
Unfortunately my last post was not allowed as I went into details on Mohammeds sex life which you revere.
As a Mystic I aligne to God not fixated on pick and choosing words in a religion that demands submission. Your aren't even a true Muslim but a mongrel pretending.
Would you allow Mohammed to baby sit your child?
You don't know JACK SQUAT about the Hadiths…you're like a computer without a CPU.
Bukhari V5B57N119
Mohammed's answer to his other wives about Aisha getting gifts.
"The Divine Inspiration never came to me while I was under the blanket of any woman among you except Her".
Inspiration while performing as a sexual pedophile.
Bukhari V4B52N44
The Qur"an agrees, saying peaceful Muslims are hypocrits, destined for Hell. "The worst of creatures" , "The most vile of animals".
Islamic University in Medina Imam's state, "It has been unanimously agreed that Imam Bukhari's work is the most authentic of all other sources in Hadith Literature put together". Second only to the Qur'an.
"Second only to the Qur'an" is NOT good enough for me. Now, you quoted some idiot Imam in Medina, who then offered his own warped interpretation of the Qur'an, which I have read cover to cover and found NOTHING that supported what you just said here. So…do yourself a BIG favor and quote from me the FULL passage FROM THE QUR'AN which supports this idiot Imam's statement, otherwise I'll put the two of you in the same mentally deranged boat. Personally, I could forgive you for this…you're just an idiot who won't be eligible to be sentenced to death for mass murder if it were to come to that for your diminished mental ability. But as for this Imam…if he wants violence, he might just get it, and will probably end up eating his words. Only then will we find out who's the real liar and hypocrite here.
Many Imams in council IDIOT.
QUIT TAP DANCING, your gene pool is showing.
You won't answer my questions. You refuse to address my challenges. This PROVES you have no answers. You're just taking up valuable space and matter…go on, GIT.
Ishaq: 676
Asma bent Markam, a literate women and poet, chastised her tribes men for their activities under Mohammed.
“Mohammed asks will no one rid me of this woman? Umayr, a zealous Muslim, decided to execute the Prophet’s wishes.
That very night he crept into the writer’s home while she lay sleeping, surrounded by her young children. There was one on her breast. Umayr removed the suckling babe and then plunged his sword into the poet.
The next morning in the mosque, Mohammed who was aware of the assassination, said, “You have helped Allah and his Apostle.” Umayr said, “She had five sons should I feel guilty?” “No” the Prophet answered, “Killing her was as meaningless as two goats butting their heads.”
I can give you a very large number of such incidences in Mohammed’s life written by the Muslim Chroniclers. Compare this to Jesus’ or Buddha’s mind set and development. This mentality is the core of Islam, as he is revered by them as the most noble of all men.
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Not all of these stories that you picked out are genuine. I know of such stories that are ridiculous beyond belief…some blind Muslims and fools like you would swallow anything in these. But you ignore all the other stuff that does put him in a good light…in other words, we all pick and choose what we want to believe. I believe that ultimately, Muhammad was a great man, a statesman, and one who succeeded in completing his mission.
As a Muslim, I am also required to accept that not only was Jesus the Messiah to Israel and a great prophet, but that Gautama (the Buddha) may have been a prophet sent by God as well. There are passages in the Qur'an that support this hypothesis.
Well your not comletly lost, there's still hope
Well your not comletly lost, there's still hope
Hope for what?? Conversion? Forget it. .
I was born a Muslim and have been a Muslim all my life. My contacts with peoples of various religions have made me appreciate mine even more. I pity those who try to convert me…I expose them for the weak hypocrites that they really are. But then, it's also sad to see someone else's faith fail him or her.
"Send s more missionaries…the last ones became Muslims!!"
Your Imam here is a terrorist sympathizer and one who preaches violence, and you support him?!? NOW we're getting somewhere with you…I've been honest with you about what I believe. And I believe that you have a mental retard, one who would rather believe a violent terrorist sympathizer than one who has opposed terrorsim pretty much all his life.
You are truly scum.
Oh, I'm sorry, did I just insult His Holiness SeaMystic, Lord Neptune, Master of the Oceans, or whatever your name may be? Oh, please, forgive me, o highly exalted one…please don't drown me beneath your divine waves. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
WAAAAH! MOMMY!!!
Your type of comments clearly shows the inbreeding of your family.
SeaMystic's logic can be summed up as follows: "Islam is EVIL because I say so. Anyone who contradicts me is a result of family inbreeding."
Man, it sure sucks to be you…you would know. As for me, I LOVE being what I am…I have no beef against you personally…you're nothing but a bunch of bitter, hateful words on an Internet debate forum. But I know that you have a miserable life…you won't rest until Islam is banned from the face of the earth. On the other hand, you must LOVE to be miserable…you come at me with inane insults, I beat you back in put you in your proper place. I don't know if I should even waste my time on the likes of you…you may not be worth it. You'd probably be better off as fertilizer or zoo meat or perhaps a medical lab corpse. In that way you'd be doing a lot more good for mankind.
Foaming at the mouth yet?
Of course not. Perhaps you are…just a few more billion to go before Islam becomes a banned religion worldwide, right? The end's in sight…you can hold your breath long enough to see this happen. Hee hee…
Ishaq: 208,
"When Allah gave permission to his Apostle to fight, the second AQaba contained conditions involving war which were not in the first act of submission. Now we bound ourselves to war against all Mankind for Allah and his Apostle. He promised us a reward in Paradise for faithful service. We pleged ourselves to war in complete obedience to Muhammad no matter how Evil the Circumstances."
Strange…I could not find the above-mentioned passage in Ibn Ishaq's Biography of Muhammad. Perhaps you could send me the URL to the copy you've got…
That being said, have you even read about the biography itself? It's a second- or third-hand account of the original biography itself; the original doesn't exist. Which proves it could be full of errors. And besides, I follow the Qur'an, and the above-mentioned passage contradicts it. Thus I reject it outright as a false passage.
Go drop acid and imagine Islam to be gone…that's the only way you'll ever be happy, when you're on one of your acid trips. And as Tom Petty put it in his song "Learning to Fly", "Coming down/Is the hardest thing". Hee-hee…
Keep tap dancing you genetic retard.
Since your perverted so called Prophet was a child molester, and all you've got is a HEE HEE, can you be trusted near children, with his illustrious example?
Of course I can be trusted around children…I've got a 2 year-old daughter. And I'll break your arm off if you as much as touch her, you pervert…
And besides, you can't corroborate any of your ludicrous claims. You're a liar and a coward and will ultimately fail, God Willing. Like I said before, since when does a child molester stop at just one girl???
Don't expect me to leave you alone. You post, I'll post back. I'll do my best to make your life miserable until and unless you back off…don't expect me to unless you do first.
Then why do you follow a sexual pervert like Mohammed?
I feel pity for you.
Muhammad is not a pevert. You are…and I don't follow perverts. Pity? I don't need your pity. But you could use mine…I have what I need. You, on the other hand, will not get what you want.
Muhammad is not a pevert. You are…and I don't follow perverts. Pity? I don't need your pity. But you could use mine…I have what I need. You, on the other hand, will not get what you want.
Keep quoting selected Hadith verses of questionable origins. You're as bad as those frickin' mullahs that I've heard preaching from time to time. Maybe we could throw you all into an arena and watch you fight each other to the death. Problem solved.
Keep quoting selected Hadith verses of questionable origins. You're as bad as those frickin' mullahs that I've heard preaching from time to time. Maybe we could throw you all into an arena and watch you fight each other to the death. Problem solved.
Tabari 1X: 69
He who believes in Allah and his Messenger has protected his life and possessions from us. As for one who disbelieves, we will fight him forever in the cause of Allah. Killing him is small matter to us".
Religion of Peace?
Better than your religion of lies, ignorance and slander, whatever it may be.
I'm happy to see that you are a defender of your daughter.
What do you feel about her being only worth half a boy and man under Islam, What do you feel about her later needing 4 witnesses if she is raped or may be stoned for decadent behaviour.
Mohammed is the grearest destroyer of the seed of Divinity in every child, male or female.
You're really stupid. If there was ever a brain in your head, and I doubt it, you will realize that laws concerning inheritence are counterbalanced by duties and obligations. And the Qur'an never mentions stoning as a form of punishment. And besides, rape is a crime…evidence that can be used to prove rape is enough to warrant 100 lashes for each rapist. I would add castration to that. And you know what else? If a rape results in pregnancy, the rapist must be forced to pay for the upbringing of the child.
My daughter is as precious to me as any of my children would be, boy or girl. And let us not forget…Muhammad condemned female infanticide that was prevalent among pagan Arabs of his time. So don't lecture me like an idiot…you know little. It's embarrassing that I could even be having a conversation with a human being with such a low level of intelligence and intellect.
So you are satisfied to consider and teach your child that she's a lower class individual, SICK, SICK, SICK.
My dedication is to protect children of the Light and women clothed in the Sun, working with Arch Angel Michael.
yOUR lUCIFERIAN MIND AND SOUL LESSNESS UNDERSTAND THAT WE ARE AT WAR.
wE ALWAYS CARRY PIGS BLOOD OR RAW PORK FOR YOUR LAST MOMENT.
He, stupid, I would never teach my daughter that she is lower in class or stature than a boy or man because God says in the Qur'an that men and women are equal in God's eyes. Perhaps it's YOUR religion that teaches that men are higher up than women…
Pig's blood doesn't bother me at all. I just don't eat pork. And besides, Muhammad's followers used pig fat to grease the bottoms of their boats to keep them waterproof. But your stupid little mind didn't know that…
"Please allow me to introduce myself, I'm a man of wealth and taste"…hee-hee.
You must be high or something. Try preaching what you just said to a general audience and you'll be booed off the stage…
"Protect children of the Light"?? Then I must be the light. My daugther is MY child and doesn't need you to protect her from her own father. who loves her far more than you ever will. You want a war? BRING IT ON, JACKASS!! Like I said to you before, you'll NEVER get what you want.
You carry dead animal matter with you? Man, I would be able to smell you from afar off, then…you'll get the Israel treatment from me. By that, I wold equate you with the Arab armies that marched against Israel repeatedly in order to destroy Israel, only to turn tail and run. Likewise, your imaginary "allies" will abandon you.
I'm waiting for you, little boy…
Played with your pecker? Might be the last time you do…
Your still fixated on the Crotch as the most impportant item in life. Of course that's where Mohammed functioned from instead of the Heart chakra.
Oh, I apologize…you don't have one.
I have both. You have neither…and no brain either.
What would you do iif an Imam stated that Mohammed accepted sexual acts such as forplay, rubbing, kissing and sodomy as acceptable as per stated in the book Tahrir-ol-Masael by Khomeini?
Would you defend her or rationalize that this action is a blessing for her?
First of all, I would never go to a mosque where an imam preaches from ANYTHING written by Khomeini. Second, if an imam were to do what you described, I would walk out of that place in disgust and would do everything to get that Imam disgraced and expelled. I did attend one mosque program where a preacher compared Osama bin Laden with Muhammad. I didn't attend mosque services for the next 2 months…what he preached was blasphemous beyond anything that Salman Rushdie wrote. I almost called the FBI on the mosque but didn't at the urging of 2 elderly friends of mine. In hindsight, I should have ratted the mosque leaders out. Things did get better afterwards…and it looked like someone else beat me to it.
The Allah you worship is an Astral bloated Maggot, and Mohammed is a Luciferian entity that has helped to enslave over a billion humans. This,is what you will enslave your child to. Keep bumping your head on the floor and give it some of your misqualified energy, you size two hat.
Say what you want, you stupid little boy. Mess with my family and I'll mess you up big time…
When you come after me, please be sure to slather your entire body with lard. Makes for good fuel for my flamethrower…
Last month on a ferry ride, a Loving Muslim father with a 2 year old girl was guided to sit beside me, for about an hour.
The child has a highly developed Causal Body which is due to attainments of many life time. She will have a great capacity to help humanity.
As I got up to leave, her shoe fell off. I picked it up and placed it on the seat, I also gave her big Toe a loving touch. As one aligned to Arch Angel Michael, I keep her in my prayers for her protection.
Good for you.
Great job Arnold Ahlert, your perspective on Islam is not only totally accurate but it is very refreshing as well! Best article on FP in a long time.
FYI, I'm not an Arab, and moreover, no inbreeding exists in my family. But you sure sound like you've got a lot to hide about yourself, boy…
You sound much like an islamist poser that used to post here. Perhaps you know him. I think his name was Crabnutters Mikey or something like that. Hailed from Texas, and went by the nickname “Cha Ching”. He worshipped that made up moon doggie allah that was invented by the madman pedophile mad mo (mohamat). From my understanding from what I’ve learned from paying attention to the behavior of muslims, this mad mo shat the contents of the terror guide that some call the koran during some intestinal distress caused by having sex with, then later consuming raw pig (the order in which he “had” the pig is open to interpretation, and strife within the islamic community). Crabnuts thought he was the king of dawah, and fancied himself the grand muffin of islam. Are you two related?
You're just a hate-peddling infidel-hating Muslim barbarian who belongs in Pakistan. And that you cannot hide.
WRONG AGAIN…I'm not from Pakistan nor ever was. My country FOUGHT against Pakistan while you morons armed it to the teeth. Makes me wonder whose side you're really on…and besides, most of my best friends are Jews and Christians.
You're nothing but a sheet-wearing, night-riding Klansman.
All we can do is invoke God's Sword of Truth on your sick Indocrinated Mind.
Hey! Any terrorist supporters at the terrorist supporting terrorist organization cair see that 9 jurors at mo's beheading trial (a moderate muslim) in Buffalo, NY wore SABRES clothing on friday, and the significance of how they we're all mocking the RoP and the moderate muslim who sabred his wife in pure islamic form?
That was no moderate. That was an extremist masquerading around as a moderate.
ahmadnb believes he will earn a Bordelio in the sky, with 72 virgins for permanent ejaculations. Pointless to argue with this individual, he's totally fixated to his crotch.
Ultimately the differences on the ground culturally are aggravated by the political elite in this country who lay in bed the the Saudi Royals in what can only be described as a cynical calculus.
Hence the bizarre spectacle of both Bush and Obama foreign policy.
Bush was confused and outfoxed. Obama is brainwashed and dangerous.
Dis Blog is on da for real. Hit em hard and hit em fast, Peace PLAYA