Reprinted from Sultanknish.blogspot.com.
No other group has done as much to keep America dependent on foreign oil as the environmentalists have. After leading successful campaigns against nuclear power and domestic drilling, the green movement may lecture on “oil wars,” but it is responsible for most of them.
The math of it is very simple. Resource shortages are a major cause of conflict. And environmentalists have dedicated themselves to creating resource shortages in prosperous nations. Their campaigns against nuclear, domestic oil and coal production have been big on self-righteousness and short on consequences. And the consequences are that their scaremongering has not only cost millions of American jobs, it has forced us to keep sending money to Muslim oil states who use that money for domestic repression and international terrorism.
The environmentalists have done the same thing in Europe and Asia, turning formerly moribund Communist powers, Russia and China, into energy and manufacturing superpowers. By making it more expensive and in some cases impossible to conduct manufacturing and energy production at home, they exported Western industries to the East, and enabled the transformation of struggling tyrannies into international superpowers.
China’s domestic repression is made possible by its economic boom. A boom created when American companies found it cheaper to do business in a country where they weren’t under siege by college grads with a specialty in pretending to be Rachel Carson or Erin Brockovich, both frauds turned into legends thanks to the mythmaking abilities of the left-wing movement.
The legacy of Tiananmen Square would almost certainly have been reform or revolution, if not for a limited prosperity created through outsourced industries and cheap manufacturing. When the question arises, who killed the pro-democracy movement in China– it wasn’t the tanks, but their enablers, the liberals whose regulation and exploitation had made America into an uncomfortable place to do business. Those companies went elsewhere and the money they brought, propped up the Chinese Communist party. And the industries of the Chinese boom created such intense pollution that it is worse than the worst nightmares of the environmentalists. Pollution that they can and should take credit for, because they were the ones who made it happen.
Environmentalists who agitate against pollution caused by foreign companies in the Third World need to take a long hard look in the mirror. In many cases it was their own campaigns which drove American companies into countries where they wouldn’t be so tightly regulated. Rather than apply reasonable regulations, they made it their goal to wipe out entire industries. They didn’t get their wish. Rather those industries moved abroad to places where there were no regulations at all. And the resulting misery that caused lies at their doorstep.
In Germany, the Greens have succeeded in their campaign against the domestic nuclear industry. What is the net result of this? It further degrades Europe’s energy capabilities and moves it into Putin’s orbit. That empowers Russia to begin another campaign of conquest aimed at its former republics. That is what a “Green” victory really looks like. People freezing in their homes while a dictatorship sends its tanks and infantry on a new campaign of terror.
The environmental response is always something about solar and wind energy, two technologies that are still unready to meet a major country’s energy needs. But that’s exactly why the environmental movement champions them. Aside from the optics of “getting your energy from mother nature”, the real goal has always been to drive up the cost of energy. The environmental movement is not interested in cheap energy. If solar power provided energy cheaply, the greens would be marching against it. Any technology that provides cheap power is their enemy.
The mandate of the environmental movement is artificial scarcity. But artificial scarcity doesn’t exist in a global economy. If you raise the price of energy production, resource mining or manufacturing, it will move abroad to less regulated countries. The price will still go up and there will be other long term consequences, but people will still find a way to get what they need. Like the rest of the left, the green movement has never learned that people will act in their own interests, rather than in thrall to their dogma. That if they can’t get it legally, they will get it illegally.
Americans are not about to freeze in their homes in winter or die of heatstroke in the summer. They are not about to drive midget cars to the lumber yard or let their families go hungry so that they can buy local. And that means more money flowing to Saudi Arabia and to China. It means more war and more repression. It means more families making do without and more firing squads and terrorist attacks. All for the greater glory of the environmental movement.
A failure to ask the simple question: and then what?
You will sit by that stream and see just how "unpolluted" it is, and STARVE to death.
GREEN on the OUTSIDE, RED on the INSIDE.
Global – "what ever you call it this week" is a SCAM. PERIOD.
Al Gore IS a con-man and should be in jail for FRAUD.
Eco-fascists will control you
100% natural
You will jog for the master race
And always wear the happy face.
We don't need to win the war on "global warming", we need to defeat environmentalism, and soon.
I paid $20K of good capitalist cash for 18 solar panels (made in my own country) to power my house. I worked in the capitalist economy to earn the money. I have a greenhouse where I grow food. My power bill is zero. And somehow I am expected to love nuclear power and fossil fuels because they are the saviour of the planet? Get real. I dont care who wants nuclear power but DO NOT tell me I have to have it !
congratulations – no one telling you anything except the greenies. Tell my how long will it take for you to recoup your $20K you spent?
The recoup depends on the square footage of the house. If his state has a tax credit and if he was smart enough to go with a top dog solar provider he'll also get a manufacturer rebate. On top of that there's also a Federal rebate until 2016. Even if it took him 10 years to recoup the $20K – which it probably won't, the installation of solar not only raises the value of the house, but that value holds during resale -again if he purchased from a superior solar vendor the warranty will transfer to the new owner. Finally, if your panels produce more electricity than you use, the meter will run backward – and in many states this means the energy company will be paying you. There are lots of good reasons to use solar.
tjwernz
I understand everything you said. my question was somewhat rhetorical.
I'm not against anything you said, however the reality is his federal rebate are my tax dollars paying for his rebate.
to produce solar panels it uses almost as much energy to make as they would produce over their life, quite often people never get their investment back because the panels need to be replaced before the purchaser can recover the investment.
As far as I know the amount of energy to manufacture a panel is not more than the amount of energy generated by the panel in its lifetime. It takes three years of solar energy from one panel to generate enough power to manufacture that one panel. After that time all energy is 'surplus' from that panel. I have solar panels here that I bought from the same company in 1985 and they are still generating 87-91% of the original output. I also bought the panels before there were heavily subsidized feed in tariffs and I don't rely on that. When I bought the panels the energy company was paying me the same amount as they were selling the power to me. I bought the panels because I like to be self sufficient. Electricity costs here are going up substantially. (within a few years they will likely be 40c per kilowatt hour). I currently have enough money saved to go completely off grid if required. I am quite happy to do without any subsidy whatsoever. I am not a 'socialist', more a 'self sufficientist'.
"There are lots of good reasons to use solar. "
Then why do we need tax credits, manuf rebates, Fed rebates? The fact is that most people would NOT buy solar because the economics do not make sense. Therefore, this push to artificially create solar market will impoverish us.
I wish solar/wind did make sense. They don't.
"I wish solar/wind did make sense. They don't"
They will make sense when grid charges 50c per kilowatt hour. What is the charge per kilowatt hour in the US? Where I live , 50c is on the horizon. I do NOT agree with subsidies. I paid my own money for my panels. Self sufficiency is my goal.
dont fool yourself. The govt will NEVER allow you to make your own energy for yourself. they would loose too much revenue. A perfect example is the hybrid/electric cars. They are already looking to tax "road use" because of the amount of money the govt is loosing at the pump. dont get me wrong. Alternative energy is great. but the only way you can be self sufficent is to knock out the majority of govt and refuse to pay, in any way shape or form their taxes.
the "grid" charging you 50c per kilowatt hour is done to force you to use alternate means to produce energy. it is artificial and needs to be destroyed.
let capitalism fix this problem.
BO made it clear he would use any means to change this country.
I never said that you have to love nuclear power. I just said it has to be available.
I support your investment in energy independence through solar. If it works for you, good. But at this point it's not a nationwide solution.
The answer is not to win it back but to withhold support from it because no matter how much support you or anyone else lends to "just keeping the river clean" that support is used instead against capitalism losing sight of the true reason for keeping the river clean-so mankind can enjoy the river's offerings. So what started out as a noble goal has become perverted. We can no longer have our all-you-can-eat crab feast because we have to refrain from eating so many crabs. The crabs are NOT endangered. The organization is only buying males and is not engaged in dredging or any other destructive practice but we must punish ourselves even as we have done everything environmentally sustainable (I hate that word) because we have lost sight of why it was we are keeping the river clean. Here's a clue. We are keeping it clean so that we can have among other pleasant experiences an annual all-you-can-eat crab feast. Now though this organization has jumped the shark. I will not contribute to it any longer. It is also associated with more radical environmental organizations whose purposes are to eliminate capitalism and to oppose any and all development of our energy resources.
Going Green, and Environmentalism is the new World Order. They destroy energy sources that are reliable and easy to obtain. They push the world toward desolation, high prices, and poverty by making us dependant on Arab Terrorist Oil supply.
"And reduced those former workers to the point where they have no choice but to buy those same slave labor products at a NON-UNION store with the profits going to China’s war machine."
Most unions, especialy the largest, are leftists. Many unions are part of the reasons companies find it better to relocate in other countries.
the only difference btw unions here and the communist govt is the facade. the comminist govt does not have unions, not because it does not like them but because it IS the union. 1 big union
we deserve it because in the end, with all the evidence prooving that the greenies are not only wrong, but flat out lying, we still obey. The farmers rather sit and wait for the govt who hates them to see reason rather than take matters into their own hands. A dictatior is a dictator regardless of the facts. if they cant use the 'power of persuesion, then they will will use the persuesion of power" you cant defeat that with reason.
Great Article……..Fantastic Summary of Envirowhackoism
The largest solar power plant in the world – Sarnia in Canada – occupies 950 acres (about 1.5 square miles) has 1.3 million solar panels and nominally has a capacity of 80MW. However, because the sun only shines bright and high for a few hours each day, Sarnia has a capacity factor of just 17%, meaning that its true average output is just 13.6MW. The southern state of Victoria in Australia has a twin coal fired power plant complex called Loy Yang A and Loy Yang B, which together have a capacity of about 3300MW and a capacity factor of more than 90% giving an average output of 3000MW, which serves the needs of half the state – about 3 million people. To get the same output from solar would require 220 similar plants to Sarnia covering about 330 square miles – and there would still be a need for conventional power plants – gas, coal, nuclear – to provide base load power when the sun doesn't shine or wind doesn't blow – unless anyone really thinks batteries could do the job. Sarnia alone cost around $1 billion, so to get the necessary output to service a small state of say 6 million people (like Victoria) more than 400 solar plants like Sarnia would be required costing around $400 billion! Assuming any state had that kind of money and the huge tracts of free suitably located land needed, can anyone imagine the amount of energy and resources required to produce the 500 million solar panels.
By the way, if anyone thinks putting solar panels on roofs is the answer think again. I have a 3KW system on my roof with a capacity factor of 17% giving it a true output of about 0.5KW. Therefore, in a country with say 10 million homes and 25 million people, even if every roof top was able to be covered with solar panels pointing the right direction (not really possible), the maximum output would be 5000MW – not even a quarter of what would be required. Photovoltaics is clearly not up to the task of replacing fossil fuels or nuclear.
How nice to have the money to buy solar panels and generate your own elecricity and raise your own food. Some of us don't have that option. I rent an apartment with solar heated water and it is a real pain, and makes NO sense anywhere that doesn't have sunshine every day of the year. Not only that but with a water tank on the roof there can be leaks as it gets old, damage from storms can impact both the tank and the solar panels. And kids like throwing rocks at the panels to hear them breaking. NO THANKS – SOLAR IS A CUTE IDEA THAT DOESN"T WORK VERY WELL.
AND what are you using to fuel your car? It still takes gas>
Green power is an illusionary energy panacea which must be heavily subsidized with tax payer funding, which at best, produces less than 1/3 the BTU energy of fossil fuels.
When there's insufficient sunlight or wind energy, Green Power out of business.
To be a viable energy resource, you have to produce energy cheaply, abundantly
and do it 24/7. Green Power isn't even an honorable mention.
The American government has allowed the radical environmental lobby and its political activism to control and dictate national energy policy, which continues to drive up domestic energy cost, stifle our own domestic energy development, and endanger our nations strategic energy security.
Environmental activism has become a radical leftist orthodoxy whose practitioners care nothing about what the consequences of their impractical, ill conceived demands place on America's current and future energy security. Much less its manufacturing ability to compete in the global market.
America needs to develop domestic energy resources under a conservationist (not environmentalist) managed growth policy before our national energy infrastructure deteriorates to a Third World energy rationing system.
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I am sure we realize there are other countries particularly in Europe that are as guilty as China when it comes to having stock in human rights abuses, raping, and murdering of young Iranian.