On November 2, the Obama administration sharply criticized Israel’s decision to accelerate construction of Israeli housing in various communities in and around Jerusalem and elsewhere in the West Bank. The administration also had some harsh words about Palestinian Authority (PA) President Mahmud Abbas’ renewal of efforts to wrest recognition for his “Palestinian State” from the UN Security Council, in which endeavor he may have made some progress with the recent UNESCO vote to accept “Palestine” as a member.
It is important to recall that Mr. Abbas’ maneuvers in the UN are actually part of the PA’s political and propaganda war against Israel, which, as he told the world back in May, will not stop once the UN recognizes the state of “Palestine,” but rather will be ratcheted up for a more effective assault against Israel. Moreover, the apartments that PM Netanyahu plans to build are not on Palestinian land, but are suburbs or even neighborhoods of Jerusalem, none of which are on the agenda for land swaps in a peace agreement.
Irrationally, but not unexpectedly, the White House and State Department used identical language to express the President’s disappointment with both Israeli Prime Minister Netanyahu and with Abbas. The State Department spokesperson went on to chastise Netanyahu for Israel’s temporary suspension of the transfer of millions of tax dollars that Israel collects on behalf of the PA.
By using the same language for both Israel’s housing construction and Abbas’ diplomatic saber rattling, Obama creates a moral equivalence between one side’s accommodating its population growth and the other side’s efforts to ultimately destroy that population. By demanding that Israel bequeath millions upon the PA, our State Department is pretending that the PA leadership and its partners (Hamas, Islamic Jihad, etc.) will use that money for state-building and economic development.
There is a rather surreal dimension to this scenario, a strange confusion of the arsonist with the fire fighter.
Victor Davis Hanson, a professor of military history at UC Fresno, California, addressed this confusion back in 2004. When asked “At what point should we reconsider our rather blanket support for the Israelis and show a more even-handed attitude toward the Palestinians?” he responded:
we should no longer support Israel, when:
Mr. Sharon suspends all elections and plans a decade of unquestioned rule.
Mr. Sharon suspends all investigation about fiscal impropriety as his family members spend millions of Israeli aid money in Paris.
All Israeli television and newspapers are censored by the Likud party.
Israeli hit teams enter the West Bank with the precise intention of targeting and blowing up Arab women and children.
Preteen Israeli children are apprehended with bombs under their shirts on their way to the West Bank to murder Palestinian families.
Israeli crowds rush into the street to dip their hands into the blood of their dead and march en masse chanting mass murder to the Palestinians.
Rabbis give public sermons in which they characterize Palestinians as the children of pigs and monkeys.
Israeli school textbooks state that Arabs engage in blood sacrifice and ritual murders.
Mainstream Israeli politicians, without public rebuke, call for the destruction of Palestinians on the West Bank and the end to Arab society there.
Likud party members routinely lynch and execute their opponents without trial.
Jewish fundamentalists execute with impunity women found guilty of adultery on grounds that they are impugning the honor of the family.
Israeli mobs with impunity tear apart Palestinian policemen held in detention.
Israeli television broadcasts to the tune of patriotic music the last taped messages of Jewish suicide bombers who have slaughtered dozens of Arabs.
Jewish marchers parade in the streets with their children dressed up as suicide bombers, replete with plastic suicide-bombing vests.
New Yorkers post $25,000 bounties for every Palestinian blown up by Israeli murderers.
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Israel should just stop building settlements. Everybody knows that building settlements is the way Israel has been waging war for decades and bucking the “peace process.” You know it, and the world knows it. Israel wages war by building settlements, and are known as jerks for it. The people who defend it are jerks too. You are a jerk.
Why do you put "peace process" in quotes? Maybe because in your heart you understand there can be no peace between civilized peoples and those who behave like savages as is related in detail from Dr. Hanson's 2004 piece above. Would you have supported a peace process between Nazi Germany and the democracies? How about between the United States and al Qaeda? Why doesn't president Obama try to negotiate a settlement with al Qaeda like he demands Israel do with her jihadists? Little doubt al Qaeda has 'legitimate' grievances against the United States. Why did Obama kill bin Laden rather that try to work out an amicable agreement with the mass-murderer? How can there be peace with wicked men whose sole purpose on this earth is to shed innocent blood?
I put “peace process” in quotes because it is really war by filibuster. Israel keeps colonizing while asking Palestine to return to the peace deal. It has not changed during my lifetime. Therefore my lifetime opinion of Israel is negative, skeptical, and derisive.
You say Israel keeps "colonizing." May I ask, how does a nation (a people) colonize its own land? When new homes and apartments are built in Washington D.C. or in Atlanta, Georgia for the descendants of white European interlopers, do you say "Americans keep colonizing?"
Will you answer my earlier questions? Would you have supported a peace process between Nazi Germany and the democracies? How about between the United States and al Qaeda? Why doesn't president Obama try to negotiate a settlement with al Qaeda like he demands Israel do with her jihadists? Al Qaeda has grievances against the United States. Why did Obama kill bin Laden rather that try to work out an amicable agreement with the mass-murderer?
You are asking me a fallacy such as “How can Germany ‘colonize’ the Sudetenland” or “How can the Soviets ‘colonize’ Lithuania?” The West Bank and Gaza are not Israel’s own land. They were the land of Jews in 50 AD. You want to compare apples, oranges, and watermelons. The War against Al Qaeda is a colonial act by the US. If you want to compare Israel to that, sure, it makes sense that they are trying to murder one another and steal their resources. This all falls under Zionists trying to excuse themselves by comparing themselves to other jerks as camouflage. Really, Israel should be held to its word in the various peace agreements and punished severely for violating the peace by doing battlefield construction.
Where is the fallacy of the Jews living in their own land?
Perhaps you should look at the maps: http://www.mythsandfacts.com/conflict/mandate_for…
From below:
The "Mandate for Palestine" an historical League of Nations document, laid down the Jewish legal right under international law to settle anywhere in western Palestine, the area between the Jordan River and the Mediterranean Sea, an entitlement unaltered in international law. Fifty-one member countries – the entire League of Nations – unanimously declared on July 24, 1922:
"Whereas recognition has been given to the historical connection of the Jewish people with Palestine and to the grounds for reconstituting their national home in that country."
On June 30, 1922, a joint resolution of both Houses of Congress of the United States unanimously endorsed the "Mandate for Palestine…."
Actually the Interim Agreement of Sept 28,1995 givse Israel the right to build in the Jewish communities of the West Bank. Its the Palestinians trying to stop construction which violates the agreement.
Anywhere. Not EVERYWHERE.
Everyone here's opinion of you,you POS, is NEGATIVE
Irrelevant.
Actually, Israel should be building settlements on ALL the land they conquered when they were attacked. They should take back the Sinai desert for starters. It wouldn't be desert for long. If I were PM of Israel we would take it all back as it is OURS, we won it fair and square. Stop whining about what you lost. It makes you look like a woosy fool to keep wanting land from Israel when you can't even take care of the 1000x more land you already have. Sheesh. Grow up and get a brain.
This is a racist post.
What flipside is arguing is that Jews must not be allowed to build in Judea.
Only a true racist would think that Jews have no rights on historically Jewish land.
Right. So this means I have a right to invade Serbia and live there on the basis that I am Caucasian.
No, you just hate Jews is all.
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BUILD BUILD BUILD Israel
I'm a jerk too! And it happens to be Israeli land, as a fact…
The European Union, The United Nations, 1.5 Billion Midslimes, and the Democrat Party hate Israel. Israel has to be right when all of these bad actors oppose her. Viva Israel!
IT IS NOT FOR YOU TO TELL THE JEWS WHERE TO BUILD ON THEIR OWN LAND, ANTI-ZIONIST SCUM!!!!!!!
Is there no legal means of attacking Victor Davis Hanson?
Can he not be sued in some or any court(s) for libel, defamation of character, inciting hatred/violence and any other misdemeanors or crimes that our brilliant legal minds can unearth?
Oh, Mickey, refute Hanson's claims — you cannot because they are based on facts something liberals do not understand. Muslims and liberals suffer from overemotionalism.
No, no, he’s on to something here. Of course he doesn’t realize it, because nothing Hanson wrote actually defames anyone (Which thus insulates him from any but ignorant rhetorical attacks); any slight against non-Israelis is implied and therefore relies on a solid knowledge of the true facts to be recognized.
Mickey is assuming that Hanson is attacking “someone”, but he is in fact arguing exactly his point; when Israelis do these sorts of things, then we should drop them. The implication, which is the heart of satire, is that there is indeed another party which is doing these things already.
Our hypocrisy is in supporting that party, not in supporting Israel.
Here in the US, it's not libelous if it's true. Every item in Hanson's list can be documented, so the Palestinians would have no case. And nowhere is he "inciting hatred/violence".
BRAVO DAVID MEIR-LEVI-there is no moral equivalence between Israel and any of her vicious neighbors.
Flipper, go to your room and let the adults talk. You need a time-out and offer zero valid support for any of you fallacious ad hominem attacks.
It’s simple. When Israel builds settlements, it is not being peaceful.
Israel IS being peaceful. She is peacefully building homes, apartments, nursery schools, synagogues, etc., in her own land. How much more peaceful does it get that that?
The prophet wrote: "Shout for joy, O barren one, you who have borne no child; Break forth into joyful shouting and cry aloud, you who have not travailed; For the sons of the desolate one will be more numerous Than the sons of the married woman," says the LORD.
"Enlarge the place of your tent; Stretch out the curtains of your dwellings, spare not; Lengthen your cords And strengthen your pegs."For you will spread abroad to the right and to the left. And your descendants will possess nations And will resettle the desolate cities.
I am going to go peacefully build a condominium in a Jew’s backyard.
I quote from Eli E. Hertz:
The "Mandate for Palestine" an historical League of Nations document, laid down the Jewish legal right under international law to settle anywhere in western Palestine, the area between the Jordan River and the Mediterranean Sea, an entitlement unaltered in international law. Fifty-one member countries – the entire League of Nations – unanimously declared on July 24, 1922:
"Whereas recognition has been given to the historical connection of the Jewish people with Palestine and to the grounds for reconstituting their national home in that country."
On June 30, 1922, a joint resolution of both Houses of Congress of the United States unanimously endorsed the "Mandate for Palestine…."
WITHOUT DISENFRANCHING OR DISPOSSESSING THE ARAB POPULATION
Tit for tat.
The Arabs want to keep rocketing ISRAEL, they BETTER EXPECT RETALIATION, you pro-illegal SLIME
NOW you want to STEAL Jewish land.
First YOUR people STOLE MY peoples land, now you want to STEAL Jewish land.
THIEF!
You’re crazy. Anyway, as I said before, I am an American from Boston. I never stole anything from you except a few laughs.
It's simple. When people tell Jews where they may, or may not, be allowed to live, they are being racist.
MOVE TO GAZA, U will be well fed, useless dolt
If you live in America, I would like you to please stop occupying Indian land.
It belongs to the Indians..
Israel gave Bethlehem, West Bank, Ramallah, etc to the p-stinians, and ya all will never be happy until Israelis just go kill themselves.
You know what I hate about you morons?
It is not that you hate Jews.
It is that you lack the HONESTY to say it straight up.
I didn’t slaughter Indians in 1840. My ancestors either lived here already or peacefully moved to Maine and ran a sawmill in the 1600′s. So Israelis don’t get a free pass in the present day for burgling a countryside.
You came, you conquered, now please leave, or apologize for your crimes against my people.
Israel is not your problem.
Can you provide some info for this supposed 'burglery?'
Can you pls explain why the supposed 'tyrant' Israel gives tons, and tons and tons of food to the fat, starving Gazans?
Please explain this vid: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o37GHxeRqGA&fe…
We see here the "horrifying" life in Gaza.
The video shows smuggling luxury cars in, but also shows coffee shops, parks and a big mall.
Once again we see that, as usual, the Palestinians are full of it.
But to all the pro-terrorist people out there, don't let something silly like the facts, fool you.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FMXrVsp-X-0&fe…
Just ADMIT that you cant stand JEWS, be honest for once in your life. I wont tell anyone.
'My ancestors either lived here already or peacefully moved to Maine and ran a sawmill in the 1600's'
THAT was INDIAN land that your family TOOK from my people, you THIEF.
And you have *NO* remorse!
Thats why you attack Israel, you have FAKE guilt, and you think that taking up for the fakestinians will ease it, and it WONT!
It is ISRAELI that is the indigenous in ISRAEL.
Bully.
and I BET you take up for the ILLEGALS in AZ, huh?! They think AZ is THEIR indigenous land!!! MEXICAN people think Long Island belongs to MEXICO!
Manhasset, Cutchogue, Amagansett, Montauk, Patchogue sound MEXICAN to YOU?!
Just like Yeruslayim is NOT Arab, Judea is NOT Arab.
It is ISRAELI: Hebrew.
How about the Turks,do they get a pass for invading and destroying the Byzantine Empire ? Why are they still in Constantinople? Syria, Anatolia, Kurdistan, etc..?
When YOUR people came to MY land, YOU slaughtered.
You terrible terrorist.
Now you want Israel.
You bullies will stop at nothing.
You want a TINY place no bigger than Jersey, because you are JEALOUS, just like ALL Stalinites, Leftists, and NAZIS are: JEALOUS. burning with envy, because you do NOT
Possess
GOD.
Stupid. I’ll say again. Some of my ancestors were indigenous to the Americas, and the rest were French. We didn’t steal jack squat of land from any of “your people” because “your people” weren’t landlords claiming Newichewannock. Anyway, I thought you were a Jewess. Now your Crazy Horse? Maybe without the horse. Anyway, that’s all beside the point. The issue at hand is Israel trying to steal the West Bank in an act of war. The world rightfully spits on them for that.
Thank you David Meir-Levi for your excellent article on Palestinian Authority Muslims who have dedicated their lives to all-consuming hate and the barbaric mass murder of their fellow human beings – innocent Jews. PA Muslims are the most genocidal society that has ever lived upon this earth. For any political leader of any country, any politician, any religious leader to support the Palestinian Authority Occupation Forces and society and a Muslim terror state implant in tiny Israel, is to actively support the planned Second Holocaust of Jews.
BRAVO, LINDA!
WHAT UTTER NONSENSE THAT THE " FAKE PALESTINIANS" WANT. FIRST , IN SAN REMO,1920 THE U,N. VOTED BY 51 COUNTRIES IN FAVOR WAS TO GIVE THE JEWS THE LAND OF ISRAEL WHICH INCLUDES, MOST OF WHAT IS NOW JORDAN. THE "SLICK BRITS" ILLEGALLY CARVED OUT MOST OF JEWISH PALESTINE , AND GAVE IT TO "TRANS-JORDAN. : TO WIN FAVOR WITH THE OIL-RICH HUSSEIN FAMILIES OF SAUDI ARABIA.
"On November 2, the Obama administration sharply criticized Israel’s decision to accelerate construction of Israeli housing in various communities in and around Jerusalem and elsewhere in the West Bank." (The famous area was re-named West Bank by Arab Muslims. For thousands of years it has been called by its BIBLICAL name of Judea and Samaria. The term West Bank is used to hide its BIBLICAL identity.)
Obama DECEIVES for Islam. In Israel, Muslims have been allowed to build tens of thousands of ILLEGAL buildings and settlements in Jerusalem and throughout Israel. Muslims have been allowed to grab mega amounts of Jewish land inside the green line Israel, threaten Jewish farmers and steal Jewish cattle. In Israel, Muslims are ALLOWED to break many laws for the sole reason they are Muslim.
Jews and other non-Muslims must have human rights!
I ws going to answer Professor HANSON properly but upon reading his statements,
I realized that the only people to whom such accusations fit like a T are the wrongly
called "Palestinians" or "Palis" for short…
I guess it is time for ISRAEL to take off once and for all the kid gloves and handle
its enemies the proper way, regardles of the idiotic "rules of engagement" devised by
UN morons who never had even snowballs thrown at them, let alone live bullets,
just because, if WWII would have been fought under such rules, rest assured that
we would still be fighting Nazi Germani and Imperial Japan to this day…
There'll never be peace in the M.E until either Israel defeats radically the Arabs
or the Arabs eliminate Israel and OBAMA as well as HILLARY can take their alleged
wisdom about the issue and you know what they can do with it
Would HILLARY please tell us why should Israel hand over the PA the payroll tax it charges Israeli employers of Arab workers and why in the hell is the PA entitled to
this money ???
If an Israeli govmt. ever saw fit brownnosing the PA by doing it, the way DAYAN
stupidly refused to take the keys to the Temple Mount from a scared Muslim clergy,
and all the problems afterwards from such foolish action, does the PA have an
"Acquired Right" to this money ????
Does the US govmt. hand over the Mexican govmt. the payroll taxes paid by the US
employers of Mexican workers ????
Or is she aware that whenever terrorism forces closure of the check points Arabs go
through when going to work in Israel, there is hunger in their homes, as most of
their families depend on their earnings in hated Israel ???
I know that as a rule, politicians are hypocrites but in the present case, i believe
both she and her boss should show if not honesty, at least some decency…..
Hillary probably has a funnel to send the money to Bill, Islamists in her
entourage keep her up to date as to where and how to score money and
continue the Clinton sell out of America and it's friends……………William
Jacob, how many jews voted for Obama and would probably vote for Hillary? Sadly, plenty will still support the Democrat Party even against there own interest. Unfortunately, socialism IS a religion as David has explained so well.
M., 11/07/11 common era
It's those darn Jewish Settlements again! Obviously, their presence p.o.'d Torquemada,
Doktor Mengele, and Martin Luther.
All of you Jew haters out there should take note that the current State of Israel constitutes only about 10% of The Promised Land. If you have a beef with that fact, then take it up directly with G-d.
I have a desire to see 100% of the Promised Land occupied by Jews and
those who are their true friends…………………………..William
People need to stop feeding Flipside.
You need to eat more wisely, yourself. Seth Bullock died of colon cancer.
Come on man why aren't you on your way to the Caucasus, do it get it
over with, the East Coast is to small for you……..I am sure a travel fund
can be arranged…………………………………………..William
I agree with Victor Davis Hanson here. The Palestinians routinely celebrate the murders of Israelis and Americans. They don't want peace with Israel,they just want to murder Israelis. People like Flipside should get their heads out of the sand. The Palestinians would do the same thing to us as they do to Israelis. They don't care about anything except themselves.
It’s a crime to care about yourself?
They sure take good care of themselves as human bombs. And of their children too.
WildJew: "Israel IS being peaceful. She is peacefully building homes, apartments, nursery schools, synagogues, etc., in her own land."
This is the claim under dispute, and by any objective metric, the Palestinian Arabs have the superior claim.
The greatest wrong being lived in the Middle East is that Israel is not living on
all of the land promised by the Almighty, that day will come and none to soon.
I pray to live to see the day I can travel to Israel and there be no Islamist
terrorists anywhere but as and historical note in a criminal journal………..William
It would be wise for all you nitwits -including the chief nitwit-Mr. Obama, to pay close attention to the real authority as He spoke in Genesis 12;2-3, and especially verse 3…go now and read it with trembling…its just that simple
the land belongs to israel! the piece of crap Palestinians should step back. and we the united states of america has to stand up and stand beside israel! and if we dont, i can promise that we will not like our punishment for not. and why does anyone is this country even care about the plastinians, im sure everyone will and does remember 9/11?? we should just bomb iran and get it over with and then they will all be dead and isreal will not have to fight and will have there land! and eye for and eye! we should have ended this with iran back in 2001!!