As usual, though the issue may seem simple, it’s not. Israel’s helmsmen have to take account of larger regional realities and possible repercussions, a mix of pros and cons.
Some of the cons of reinvading Gaza:
* Plausible rumors have been flying that Prime Minister Binyamin Netanyahu and Defense Minister Ehud Barak have decided to attack Iran’s nuclear program within a year or so. If true, they may want to save political capital for such a move—certain to be unpopular in the world, at least at first—and not squander it on an embroilment in Gaza. Israel’s fellow democracies—let alone the Islamic bloc and its allies—never look kindly upon Israeli military moves, demanding quick ceasefires and “restraint on both sides.” If Jerusalem is contemplating action against Iranian nukes, it may prefer to the let the smaller problem of Gaza fester.
* It’s frequently reported that Jerusalem is reluctant to launch a campaign in Gaza for fear of jeopardizing what’s left of relations with post-Mubarak Egypt. If the 1979 Israeli-Egyptian peace treaty is hanging by a thread, it’s said that a Gaza offensive could finally sever the thread—or ignite a firestorm of sentiment among the Egyptian masses that would only further strengthen the Muslim Brotherhood and other radical elements.
* Dore Gold points out that the real force behind the recent rocket fire is not Islamic Jihad but its sponsor, Iran. The latter’s “priority is to save Bashar Assad’s regime in Syria,” and TV images “of Israeli-Palestinian exchanges of fire provide a useful distraction” and “might force the Arab League to reengage with the Palestinian issue, instead of pressuring Assad to make the reforms they are demanding.” In other words, by entering Gaza, Israel could be playing into Iran’s hands and helping it rescue its ally Assad. Paradoxically, though, Assad could be preferable for Israel to a radical Sunni regime that might replace him—only adding to the complexity.
And as for some pros:
* Again, if Israel is indeed gearing up to strike Iran, that would likely ignite a multifront war involving Gaza and Hezbollah-controlled Lebanon (and possibly Syria as well). Reoccupying Gaza, then, whatever the political, economic, and other possible costs entailed, would have the advantage of removing a potential front in such a war.
* Likewise regarding Egypt, the argument can run in both directions: if Muslim Brotherhood-driven radicalization is in any case around the corner, it would be safer to invade Gaza now, before the danger of Egypt joining the fray grows.
* Israel clearly cannot indefinitely tolerate a terror-statelet abutting its south, and the longer it waits to tackle the problem, the stronger the statelet grows and the higher the costs of an engagement.
That list does not claim to be exhaustive, and one has to take into account that Jerusalem is privy to intelligence. Still, based on the list, the “pros” seem to have it. Indeed, Egypt has reportedly warned the Gaza terrorist groups to hold their fire because Israel is very close to invading.
Time will tell.
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Right at the moment if Israel invades Gaza it has to go the whole way. That is clean the festering sore completely by shoving the whole lot of them into Egypt, and moving the Egyptian border back to the Suez where it belongs.
Currently, Egypt is allowing arms to flow through the Sinai which violates the treaty. Perhaps, Israel should retake the Sinai and use it as a buffer and seize its oil resources.
Right on. I've been saying this for several years.
always hungry for more!!! come in one inch of Egyptian land and you will gone forever!! you know we really do need some Jews slaves now more than ever, you will be good use to clean Cairo streets. So come on, get back to me, my fomer slave!!! *spits on the Torah*
You must represent the religion of peace? need I say more
WHAT RELIGION ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT HOMO???
WHAT EGYPTIAN LAND HAS TO DO ABOUT DIRTY RELIGION??
I DONT GIVE A TOSS WHAT THE HELL YOUR RELIGION IS, BUT IF YOU JEWS PEOPLE COME IN ONE INCH OF EGYPTIAN LAND, YOU WILL REGARD FOR THE REST OF YOUR LIVES!!
And attack Israel once more and that is the end of Egypt, barbarian.
Arabs allways claim they are going to destroy the Jews, but history shows you are impotent every time you try.
It must be so humiliating as an Arab to know that the decendents of "Apes & Pigs" have repeatedly destroyed the "mighty" Arab armies in successive wars, eh?
Definition of stupidity: continually trying the same thing expecting different results.
I wonder if you posess the intelligence to understand the implication?
WE ARE NOT ARABS!! DO SOME RESEARCHERS!!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Egyptians
YES WE ARE THE SAME PEOPLE WHO USED TO RIDE YOUR FATHERS LIKE ANIMALS FOR 100s OF CENTURIES!!!
Ok, maybe not Arabs, but mostly inbred muslims none the less. After all your country did participate in the ARAB Spring!
"YES WE ARE THE SAME PEOPLE WHO USED TO RIDE YOUR FATHERS LIKE ANIMALS FOR 100s OF CENTURIES!!!" Are you claiming that you are a bunch of homosexuals?
Egypt has NEVER beaten Israel or the Jewish people in a military confrontation & your country would have been conqured by the lowly Jews had you not begged the UN for them to stop hurting you in 1967!
Look at your country now, ripping itself apart. Israel would be laughing at you idiots.
you must be mistaking arabs for the greeks.
no offence but Jews close to be inbred people than Muslims. Since Jews are only one ethnic group where Muslims are differrent groups from Far East Asia to North/South America Muslims are different ethnics and have cultures unlike Jews.
Youi're barbarians, and that we've known for years. Not only that,, you're parasites and I'm fed up to the teeth of seeing our aid budgetr wasted on trash like you. And, yes, those Jewish-invented vaccines were wasted on scum like you.
Here is an article that predicted this situation. http://www.intellectualconservative.com/2008/04/2…
and that makes clear that Israel will have to invade and the longer they wait the worse it will get.
If confronted with a pack of rabid dogs, what is the proper method of dealing with them? You can't reason with them. You can't argue with them. You can't show them affection. You can't teach them. If not dealt with, and quickly, your lives are in danger. Now what do you do? What do you do. There is only one option.
Islam is rabies. muslims…….the dogs.
Good analogy.
Yep, I like it too
If any of you are Pauline, I hope you saw Chris Wallace's interview. Doncha know we need to make nice with Iran. RP lives in OZ, and has zero idea that Iran's government hope for the apocalypse and 12th Imam.
Reoccupy Gaza? it's an option.But at the moment the situation is very
dangerous.The muslim brother-hoods are winning in the surrounding
countrys. Iran is a immediate threat to the existence of Israel,wich has to
be dealth whit first. The terrorists from Gaza are on the payrol of Iran to
provoke Israel into a fight and that will be a signal for the surrounding terrrorist
to attack from all sides,like the past,but now Iran will be in it to.
The three previous figths will seem like pinpricks compared to the coming
one. And that there will be a war coming thereof I'm 1000% confident.
If Israel will stand a change of winning she must choose very carefully wich
enemy it takes down first. Above all it has te be quick as lightening.
The terrorists from Israel are also on payroll from united states. Israel God is nuclear weapon, money and blood suckers. Why don't you as the chosen people to think of a way to create peace instead of accusing resistance from your stupidity. Make people love you and why 200 nuclear in Israel facing other nation, why 200?
Please don't bring your wars in united states and get more italians or irish and others die because of israel. The internet has just about enough with israel. I may be too small for you but the world is watching, because we will not back you up even it is in jewish control. You better cool off and find a way to bring people together instead of wars.
How many Italians and Irish have died for Israel? Fewer than what can fit onto a bicycle. Now hundreds of Israelis have died for Italy, Ireland and the entire West. Israelis have been dying for us for the last 63 years.
I really wish that the stupid morons who write these articles would enlist and have thier war-mongering heads blown off in the process.
The world would be a much better place if they did.
I think YOU are the leftist moron !
Murray,
Talking about wishing that people you apparently do not agree with would have their heads blown off is not really nice you know.
Somebody may take exception fellow.
Calm down. Just stick to being irrelevant and that will do.
SCHWARTZ :
And if Israel finally decides to attack Iran's nuclear installations, can you guarantee
Syria, Hizbullah, PA, Hamas and even Egypt will hesitate to attack Israel ???
Do you remember when Hizbullah, with a much smaller arsenal, made rocktets rain
on northern Israel, Haifa included ????
Short of nuking them, my feeling is that the GAZA problem must be eliminated, as
well as the PA and blast Hizbullah to kingdom come with absolute disregard for
"innocent" civilians, which are none….
Otherwise, Israel goodbye….
So what's wrong with nuking them? It's way past the time to deal with these demonic peoples (descendants of Ishmael and Esau), they're not ever going to join the human race.
We've got this all wrong! First, you have to know our President will be the rational voice that will calm all others. Sure, he'll speak to the issue by declaring that both sides ought to use restraint (because we KNOW there is moral equivalency to lopping bombs into civilian areas and a precision military retaliatory strike). Why, he may even frown at the camera and tell the world that we know Iran can and has influenced these developments and if they would unclench their fists we will continue to extend our hand. You see, once we in the West realize all the turmoil is our fault, that we antagonize them by our presence (doubled for Israel! What don't they understand about that?!?) If we would only leave them alone (keep the money flowing though) why, then there would be no more need for "resistance warriors" that are forced into martyrdom by our cruel interference.
Hyperbolic sarc I assume?!
Hornik having lived in Israel a long time, it could well be that he HAS enlisted and seen some military service.
indeed, he spent a whole 6 months cleaning netanyahoo's latrine
Remember, Israel has been waiting for years for an opportune moment to strike Iran.
No war mongering there. Israel has had nuclear capability for years, and hasn't used it.
No war mongering there.. A succesful Israeli strike on Iran will cause the problems
coming from Gaza to decrease; hopefully to manageable proportions. No war mongering there,
either.
And I can tell you, from personal experience, that the troops of the IDF are the most
conscientious, patient, and forgiving folks I've seen; anywhere. Not so with the Islamic
barbarians of Hamas, Hezbollah, Islamic Jihad, et al. So WHO are the warmongers?
Yeah right IDF are such nice soldiers who never harm women and children. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a2drVlyjv4A&fe… http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0VQ6smL0_Uw&fe… http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PynvDVPWkSA&fe… http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GxFvT-3-M9E&fe… http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2EUUrE8Lm14&fe… http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=toxHmsWO4to&fe…
I can see haw you would equate that too beheading someone, blowing up a cafe with school children in it, stoning a woman to death for suspected adultry, entering someons home & killing the family while they sleep or launching a anti tank rocket at a school bus.
Yep the IDF dont even compare.
Is that the best you could come up with?
And the clueless protagonists of two-state solution want Israel to pull out of West bank…rendering the Jewish nation even more vulnerable.
I think the saddest reality here is that Israel would have far more options if we didn't have a Jihadist/ anti-Semite in the White House. If they can hold off until January 2012, and as long as it's not Ron Paul, they can take back Gaza, and bomb Iran's Nuclear sites with the knowledge that the US has a man once again in the White House. But with Obama in there Bebe has got to be wondering if we got their back or not.
the longer Israel waits the stronger the enemy gets. Israel should secure Gaza asap and damn the criticizm of a liberal world already bought and paid for by the OPEC muslim terrorism sponsors. Israel could wait too long and then what? Our leaders have already sold us out and Israel has been tossed under the bus by Obama anyway. Israel defend yoursleves and your right to survive or the muslims will finish Hitler's work on you. Do it now.
Israel has to face the fact that the Obama Administration has thrown them under the bus and Muslim arabs are no longer scared of them getting help from the US. Israel has NEVER attacked an enemy capital (outside of Beirut, but EVERYONE was bombing the living sh_t out of Beirut, so that doesn’t count). Israel has NEVER made the enemy population suffer in any way. Israel has always fought nothing but defenses … which is why Israel has had to fight the same war over and over again every ten years since the inception of the State. Time to open up a large can of wup A$$ on the arab world.
If Obama or any other US administration drive Israel into Russia or China's arms, they are going to be sorry. Those two states know Israel has one thing the Arab states don't, and that's technology (And they need it), and as such, they are quite willing to trade with the Israelis even if they masquerade as "not liking them".
That's $billions of trade that will be lost right there, and the US will have additional problems with Russian and Chinese weaponry being upgraded with Israeli technology to boot.
M., 11/07/11 common era
For once, Israel should do what it needs to do to ensure continued Jewish survival in what now constitutes only 10% of The Promised Land. Barack Husein Obama didn't create the heavens and the earth. Neither did the Vatican, U.N., Kremlin, Hilary Clinton, or the E.U.
Hamas needs to be sent to trash bin of history. If the IDF can accomplish that, it will crack the illusion of invincibility that all those terror groups seem to have.
When Israel had control of Gaza and Sharon decided to evacuate creating a firing
platform for Islamist terror I had to think they have gone mad and are in a suicidal
matrix of political insanity. Now as the Islamist front moves forward and for what
ever reasons given, they know Obama will not be there for Muslim excuses and
Islamist cover. Iran is timing everything it is doing to attack Israel but after it's
proxies have taken their toll. All of the Islamist terrorist Nations are in differing
states of readiness and the mix will always be uncertain, the past showing by
them has been pitiful and is not sufficient for Israel to expect to be destroyed.
Iran is the only one with the nuclear capability and that is the real danger,
strike Iran a deadly blow, not forgetting the leadership when doing so and let
the rest do their best but it will only leave Israel standing………It is all within
the year and expected. The choice is roll over and die slowly or make a
winner take all situation and Israel must tell the world that it will use nuclear
weapons against outside intervention by Europe, Russia, China and all
who would aid Islamist murderers……………………………………….William
I guess Netanyahu is under big pressure from extremist like Avigdor in his coalition who wants Israel to attack Gaza and prove to the Arabs that Arabs need to respect Israeli might.
Two things about this attack. You must consider that Turkey is increasingly having a stake in the Eastern Mediterranean natural resources and with Gaza as a pretext and Libya (R2P) keeping in mind , what would pro-Israelis do if Turkey decides to attack Israel while Israelis are busy killing Gazan children ? Remember Israelis have never had to fight a real enemy for about 40 years (since 1973) and whatever small skirmishes there have been , Israel have performed pretty poorly even against much weaker foes like Hezbollah etc .
2. What do you think the Saudis and Qataris will do in this regard say for example with ( success from toppling Qaddafi ) , if they decide to make themselves more popular in the Arab street and decide to financially back the Gazans ?
If Turkey attacks Israel, its goodbye to Istanbul and Ankara, stupid Jew-hating barbarian.
3. Another point in question here is that Israel must understand that it is running itself out of good wills with the elected leaders of France , Britain and the USA. Monseiur Sarkozy just said that Mr. Netanyahu is a liar and the British defense minister Liam Fox had to resign because of his friend's close ties with Israel. Mr. Obama has to accept what Mr. Netanyahu asks him to do so but in the end , he is only doing so under the pressure from lobbies and not under any conviction. If he gets his chance , I believe he will be the first to order a drone strike on the Israeli leadership.
4. Israel's predicament is understandable. It is reminder of the troubles Crussader Kingdoms in general and the Nights Temples faced in particular. Once they were the darling of the Western world and were seen beyond the authority of any sovereign monarch in Europe. The Knights saw themselves as the representatives of Christ on earth and with that swagger went to battle Saladin in Hattin. The rest is history. With one defeat , the whole Christendom's attitude towards them changes gradually. Then ultimately the same crussader Knights ended up either being hacked by the flashing blades of the Mamlukes in Acre or being put on the burning pile in France on the orders of King Philip for condemning the same person of Jesus on whose name they swore to fight the Muslims.
5. In my mind , leaders like Barak , Livni and Netanyahu are the ones who are standing between potential disaster for Israel. I just wonder what would have happened if Avigdor would have been in power now ?
A total invasion of Gaza might be counterproductive at this point if Israel is preparing to hit Iran (which all of civilization should be praying for) But the IDF could set up a great number of rocket launchers near Gaza so that each time one comes from Gaza, ten are immediately sent back to Gaza.
Latma Tv: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DgOS6ZOvcJs&fe…
No other state would tolerate such immoral and illegal violations of human decency. Israel is to accept undeserved and unprovoked violence because it is a Jewish state. Instead, most of the rest of the world sympathizes with and is supportive of muslim cowards who target schools and hospitals with rockets and then run to hide behind women and children. And these are the "best" of the poor and oppressed palestinians (who somehow still manage to have one of the highest rates of obesity in the world).
Now what would we have done if German and Japanese tropps hid behingd women and children during World War II? We would still have opened fire, killing the human shield, just to get the German or Japanese soldier. Holding fire when faced with 'human shields' only encourages the taking of human shields and ensures the success of that tactic. To make it fail, you have to shoot, hold nothing back, and say They're the guilty ones. It is they who use women and children as human shields. But given these Paleonazis, children are future terrorists anyway.
it's about time… natinyahoo is a moron.
Netanyahu is like Churchill compared with Cameron, Sarkozy and Obama.