Jamie Glazov: Ladies and gentlemen, what an honor and privilege to have one of the leading warriors on the frontlines in this terror war — Frank Gaffney.
Frank Gaffney: Good morning.
I want to just start out by saying — I know David mentioned that they’ve changed the name of this event once from the Dark Ages Weekend to the Restoration Weekend. I propose we change it to Thanksgiving Weekend. Because I am so thankful for David and his team, Jamie, and all of you –
– and the chance to be here with you. That’s to soften you up.
How many of you sat through the hour-plus that I went through on Friday afternoon?
Okay, well, thank God. Because I’ve got seven minutes to do the whole thing right now. And I’m going to talk very fast. So you’re going to see a lot of this stuff, and you’re going be — I’m going to go through as much of it as I can before he pulls me down. But I just want to give you a flavor of an example of the enemy within our community, and just a sense of the peril that it represents. So bear with me here quickly.
A book which we still have a few copies of is [the source] — “Shariah: The Threat to America.” I would commend it to you.
The Muslim Brotherhood creed I think you’ve been told about several times. It is not secular, it is not nonviolent. Its mission is a kind of grand jihad, as several have talked about, aimed at destroying us from within.
Let me give you a couple of examples. Robert has just mentioned the FBI training. This is a very crude way — you saw in 2004 the 9/11 Commission talking about the threat in very realistic terms. Some Muslim Brothers complained, and we stopped using the words they didn’t like. How could this have happened, even with the Fort Hood After Action Report, as Allen West mentioned yesterday?
Well, in part, it’s because groups like this, attached as it was to the strategic plan found in a secret subbasement in 2004, listing the Muslim Brotherhood’s front organizations, like the Islamic Society of North America, the largest in the country; like CAIR, not on this list — it came into being in ’93, but its progenitor, the Islamic Association of Palestine — had been all over our government, including in these institutions and our civil societies.
The one I’m going to dwell on is public policy entities in the civil society. It became the job of this individual, Abdul Rahman Al-Amoudi, a top Muslim Brotherhood operative, to penetrate and to subvert the conservative movement and the Republican Party. He’d earned his chops by working with these guys. They made him a goodwill ambassador for negotiating and dealing with the Muslims, including, in the Israeli-Palestinian context — they also gave him the responsibility for credentialing chaplains for the United States military and prison systems.
Evidence of Al-Amoudi’s seminal role in starting the Islamic Free Market Institute — two checks drawn on his account, each for $10,000, the tip of the iceberg. The Islamic Free Market Institute also got his right-hand man, who you’ll meet momentarily, as its first executive director. It was used to launder the credentials of Brotherhood operatives as conservatives and Republicans, thanks to this man’s help — Grover Norquist.
If you tune into “60 Minutes” tonight, you will see what I expect will be a very flattering portrayal of Mr. Norquist. This is not going to be so flattering — thanks to Grover, both the Bush Campaign of 2000 and the Bush Administration were penetrated by these six individuals. Just as illustrative examples — Al-Amoudi I’ve already introduced you to, here with George W. Bush in the Governor’s Mansion in May 2000, part of the campaign outreach to the Muslim American community. This was before he announced he was a supporter of Hamas and Hezbollah; also before he was convicted of trying to kill the Crown Prince then, now King, of Saudi Arabia, with money from Muammar Khadafi. Subsequently, the US government, after he was sent to the slammer in Supermax for 23 years, announced he was also an al-Qaeda financier.
The gentleman on the far left is Khaled Saffuri, Abdul Rahman Al-Amoudi’s longtime right-hand man, the first executive director of the Islamic Free Market Institute. You see Al-Amoudi on the other side of George Bush, also in the May 2000 Governor’s Mansion outreach thing. Khaled Saffuri became the Muslim outreach coordinator for the Bush 2000 Campaign. Khaled Saffuri is next to Bush in the King Faisal Mosque after 9/11. The President then was there impressing the Muslim community with how sensitive and tolerant he was.
The fellow standing next to him on his left was actually one of the principals of the Islamic Association for Palestine, overheard on a wiretap founding CAIR — still runs it to this day — Niad Awad, very bad dude.
Down here in Florida, they know this chap — Sami Al-Arian. He was shown here at Disneyworld, thanks to Grover and Khaled Saffuri, with the President in March on the campaign trail. Sami Al-Arian was at the time running Palestinian Islamic Jihad; subsequently convicted of doing so.
Muzammil Siddiqi, one of the worst of the Muslim Brotherhood imams in the United States, based [in] California, was for a time the president of the largest Muslim Brotherhood front, the Islamic Society of North America. Here he is in a foreign print, walking past George W. Bush. Because he was, of all Muslims, the one that was selected to represent that faith community at the Ecumenical Service three days after 9/11 in the National Cathedral. Here he is in the White House, presenting George W. Bush with a Koran, at which occasion the President said the teachings of it are peace and good.
Well, we didn’t only hear it there, thanks in part to this character, Suhail Khan, shown with the man I believe he handles for the Brotherhood. Suhail Khan is a pedigreed Muslim Brother. His parents founded four of the organizations the Brotherhood itself claims are their fronts — ISNA, the Muslim Students Association, the Muslim Communities Association and the aforementioned Islamic Association of Palestine. He’s never repudiated his parents’ involvement in any of these organizations, nor has he distanced himself from them himself.
In fact, I’m going to show you a short clip — if, God willing, this works — on the occasion of his presentation to that largest Muslim Brotherhood front, the Islamic Association of Palestine. Excuse me — the Islamic Society of North America, 1999.
Work for the ummah, the Muslim world. At the time he made that speech, he was working for this gentleman. You may know him — Tom Campbell, a RINO, who used to represent Northern California in the Congress. He was his policy and press guy in that capacity. He worked to try to get a ban on something called secret evidence.
What’s that about? Secret evidence happened to be the personal priority of this man, Sami Al-Arian, you’ve already met — Palestinian Islamic Jihad. The idea being, he didn’t want us to be able to use classified information in prosecuting and deporting illegal aliens without giving them that information, which of course would compromise not only it, but also probably the sources and methods by which it was obtained. Why was he so keen on that? Because his brother-in-law was being held on the basis of secret evidence at the time — secret evidence that would also come ultimately to implicate old Sami.
So, while Suhail Khan was working for RINO Campbell, he was made a board member of the Islamic Free Market Institute, Abdul Rahman Al-Amoudi’s organization, chaired by Grover Norquist. That helped credential him, helped move him into the Bush 2000 Campaign with his friend, Khaled Saffuri, thanks to Carl Rove, shown here in that meeting in the Governor’s Mansion in May 2000.
Sami Al-Arian got, through Grover Norquist’s help, the President — the candidate, I should say — George W. Bush, to commit, if elected in the course of this second debate with Al Gore, to promise to get rid of secret evidence. This was made further possible by Suhail Khan being moved into the White House Office of Public Liaison after the election as a full-time volunteer, his job being the gatekeeper for the Muslim Brotherhood. In that capacity, he helped with their influence operation big time, including not only that the teachings of Islam are peace and good, but also that Islam is a religion of peace, jihad is just about personal struggle, and of course, al-Qaeda has hijacked this religion.
Sami Al-Arian hammered Suhail Khan at the 2001 ISNA convention, saying — we want the President to deliver on this commitment. He called — he hectored the crowd to send 50,000 e-mails — faxes, phone calls, meetings, what have you — to try to get secret evidence prohibited by George W. Bush. Well, interestingly enough, Suhail said — I’m on the case, we’re working it. And they finally got a date for it. Guess what date that was? 9/11.
I happen to know this because they all decamped when they couldn’t get into the White House. And this is, by the way, the access list, apparently, of that meeting — 49 Muslim Brotherhood organizations and representatives who were supposed to be at the White House to take delivery of the President’s commitment on secret evidence. Instead, they decamped to the conference room I shared with Grover Norquist, which is how I tumbled onto all of this.
Interestingly enough, Grover Norquist’s name is at the top of this Muslim Brotherhood access list. Why would that be? Well, according to James — excuse me, John Zogby, James’s brother — both Arab Americans, not, by the way, Muslim Americans, but Arab Americans — Grover Norquist was, quote — he was absolutely central to the White House outreach.
I could go on and on. I’ll try not to, because Jamie’s getting restive.
Grover got Suhail Khan, as he [is] a board member of the American Conservative Union, which runs the Conservative Political Action Conference. Very quickly — Grover has been building infrastructure for these guys, promoting their candidates, and espousing and advancing their agenda.
Infrastructure — this is too much to get into, except he’s got these Wednesday group meetings, not only in Washington but in the states around the country. He’s using these, as you see there, in the words of one of his Muslim Brotherhood operatives — to build — rather create relations with top political leaders and Muslims.
Who are some of these guys? Well, the fellow with the striking red tie is David Ramadan. He’s just been elected to the House of Delegates, thanks to Grover Norquist’s efforts in Virginia. Shown with the House Majority leader, shown with the governor of Virginia; not shown with, but also endorsed by, the Attorney General of Virginia — three, I would argue, of the most promising young Republican leaders, all now implicated in what I believe is a rather dubious candidate. [Why?] Ken Timmerman, an investigative reporter, noted shortly before the election, this guy is related by marriage to a major-general in Lebanese intelligence with close ties to Iran, Syria and Hezbollah. As Ken points out, you don’t get to be married to the mob without having passed muster with the mob. I believe that’s true in this case as well.
Jamie, one more second.
These are some of the specific agenda items that, I think it would probably shock you and most conservatives to know, Grover Norquist is publicly associated with and espousing. Here’s some more. Cutting defense happens to be one of my pet rocks. I’ll be at a conservative leadership meeting tomorrow, where I guarantee you he will try to get every conservative in the room to join him in gutting our military, lest we raise taxes on the rich. I will probably be thrown out of that room for arguing I’m not sure that’s the right call for our country or for our party.
Grover has been working assiduously to counter something we have been doing. Many of you wonder what we could do to stop Sharia in America. I believe American Laws for American Courts is one such initiative. He has been using his Wednesday meeting to try to prevent it. It’s a simple proposition — American laws that protect our civil rights should operate, not ones like Sharia and, by the way, other foreign laws that don’t.
He convened a meeting on the 6th of July for the purposes of denouncing this. Got some Jews to come in and say they wouldn’t be able to practice their faith if this law were the law of the land. Then he brought in these notable conservatives at the end of September to make the same general point.
He went to Dearborn, a hotbed of Sharia in America, to headline a national leadership conference with the Muslim Brotherhood and prominent leftists like George Soros’s Center for American Progress. This is what he said on that occasion. I just have to play you this, because you got to hear it in his words.
Note the choking up. I’m concluding, promise you, Jamie.
The response from Grover is to shoot the messenger, here again, in his own words.
Sad and silly it is indeed. A classic influence operation, I would argue, in all of these respects.
What would Reagan do? We know. He rooted out communists in his day. I think what we must do — we must understand the Brotherhood is the enemy. We must not embrace them. We must recognize Sharia for what it is, which is the enemy’s threat doctrine. It is about power, it is not about faith. And I believe we must hold Grover Norquist accountable. We are not doing that now, we have not done it for 12 years that I have been warning about this.
I do want to salute, though, two gentlemen — Frank Wolfe, Congressman Frank Wolfe from Virginia –
– who did a statement of conscience on the floor of the House of Representatives, denouncing Grover for precisely these kinds of activities; and also our own David Horowitz, who has been a real leader on this.
Jamie Glazov: Ladies and gentlemen, we’re going to open up for some questions. But I believe sometimes we take a couple seconds, though, just to recognize some of the troops that make this all possible. Craig Snider, can you stand up in the back for a minute? This is a great warrior that makes it all happen here as well.
Do we have a microphone? Okay, let’s start with some questions for the panel.
Unidentified Audience Member: Is it true that Barack Obama’s father was a Muslim? Is it also true that, since he was his father, that he automatically becomes a Muslim when he’s born? And if he changes from Muslimism to another religion, is it true that he becomes somebody — an infidel who should be killed? And could you conclude by that that Barack is still a Muslim, and that he would be in favor of all these things that you’re talking about now, and he would be in favor of Iran getting the atomic bomb, and also in favor of them destroying our country, because he would still be a Muslim? Would those things follow?
Jamie Glazov: Do you have a wise man that you’re addressing this to?
Unidentified Audience Member: Yes. You. Whoever wants to handle it. Bob Spencer.
Robert Spencer: Strictly speaking, that’s true. He has a Muslim father and a Muslim stepfather. And according to Islamic law, that makes him a Muslim. He says that he became a Christian in this Jeremiah Wright church later on.
It must be noted — and I’m not saying that this is true in the case of Barack Obama, but a Muslim can call himself a Christian, or a Jew. Because Islam, if you read the Koran, considers itself to be the correct and true teachings of the prophets Moses and Jesus. And so when they say — like the imam — the Ground Zero mosque imam, a few years back, made everybody so excited when he said — I am a Jew. I’ve always considered myself a Jew. And they said — oh, how wonderful and tolerant and broadminded and loving he is. But he just meant — I’m a follower of the true teachings of Moses, which is Islam.
And so to call himself a Christian doesn’t mean he’s not a Muslim. And certainly in every way, as far as I can see, all his public policies have been oriented toward the expansion of Sharia and Islamic law around the world. There’s a strange inconsistency in that there’s one notable group of protesters in the Islamic world that he did not support, and those were in Iran.
Now, he’s not a stupid man. I think the golden thread there is that he sees that they were fighting against an Islamic state. Whereas all across North Africa and the Middle East, they’re fighting to install Islamic states. So in both cases, he’s acting in favor of Islamic states.
Now, does all this mean that he’s secretly a Muslim? I don’t know. He doesn’t return my calls.
But certainly, I think that it’s obvious, whatever his personal dispositions may be, that he believes that Islamic law is a good, positive, stabilizing influence for societies, and he wants to foster its growth.
Jamie Glazov: Raymond, you quickly wanted to add something?
Raymond Ibrahim: Yeah, I’d like to add to that. I think we need to differentiate between all your questions that you raised, which are legitimate, about Obama. But I think the important thing is that — and now we come to a term that not many people are familiar with — the word “Islamicate.” “Islamicate” means that you don’t have to be a Muslim, you don’t even have to believe in Allah, or any of this — but if you grow up in that culture, so much of Islam permeates your own worldview, de facto.
And so the things that we heard about and we discussed, such as taqiyya and deception, and this sort of tribal solidarity — you don’t have to be a believer in Islam. But if you grow in that culture — and he lived there, okay — then these things do start to influence you. And so — and as I always point out, whatever he is, I know for a fact that of all the Presidents, Obama should really understand Islam more than anyone else. Because he’s lived there, and he knows how it is. And he’s not a stupid guy.
So all these factors, of course, sort of kind of contribute to what you’re saying. And I think that he understands it, he’s influenced by it. He may not necessarily subscribe to the doctrines, or say he believes in Allah or read the Koran. But all these things are part of the societies that were part of his dad’s — Indonesia, and all these places that he grew up. So they’ve impacted him and influenced him in certain ways, not least in which that they have really told him what Islam is about, firsthand experience. Whereas other Presidents have not had this.
Jamie Glazov: Ladies and gentlemen, let’s please keep the questions to one sentence; and the panelists, the answer to just, you know, under a minute. Because we want to let as many people participate as possible. But Frank wanted to add something.
Frank Gaffney: Very quickly, on the point that Robert just made — you’d think that somebody couldn’t be a Christian if they didn’t think that Jesus was divine. Kind of a fundamental point, right? Well, there is, as part of the stealth jihad — which the Muslim Brotherhood is the prime practitioner of — as Robert has called it — they call it civilization jihad — a very concerted effort to infiltrate, suborn and otherwise undermine the interfaith community.
And one of the most insidious of these steps is something called Chrislam. There are actually churches and other houses of worship that are now promoting the idea that you can be both Christian and Muslim, because both revere Jesus. But as Robert says, Jesus is a prophet in Islam, whose principal job, as I understand it, is to kill the Christians when he comes back, because they haven’t gotten with Islam, which is a little different than most people’s interpretation of Christianity.
Jamie Glazov: We got a question over here.
Unidentified Audience Member: This has been an extremely informative weekend. But what does the panel suggest or think about actions we should take tomorrow? I think everybody should act tomorrow, and start — and keep it up until we have victory.
Jamie Glazov: We want to get to as many questions — but Daniel, you haven’t spoken. Maybe, for 30 seconds, what actions can the West take?
Daniel Greenfield: Well, here’s one simple thing, which we had during the al-Awlaki case, where there was this whole controversy — can the President sign an order to execute an American citizen? There’s a simple solution — denaturalization, which was a standard principle at a certain point, until the Supreme Court decided that it was cruel and unusual punishment. Remove the United States citizenship of people who are foreign agents, who are members of the Muslim Brotherhood, who are waging war against America or have allegiance to a foreign power.
Unidentified Audience Member: Wait a second –
Jamie Glazov: Wait –
Unidentified Audience Member: I suggest that we should take — this audience should go home and take –
Robert Spencer: The first thing we have to do is raise awareness. Most people we know have no clue about the things that we have been discussing this morning. Most people you know have no idea about any of this. So that’s up to you. That’s one thing you can do. You can talk to your friends, you can talk to your family. You could have a gathering at your home and show a film, show the kinds of things that Frank was showing today, show a Ground Zero mosque documentary, or “Islam: What the West Needs to Know,” or all these resources that are out there. Start a study group. Read a book, read the Koran — that would be a fun study group.
And there are all sorts of things that we need to do.
The first thing we need to do is have enough people to reach critical mass to be able to start turning this around in terms of our elected representatives. But we can’t do that when most people don’t have any idea what it is. And so, that’s something you can do right now, tomorrow.
Frank Gaffney: Right –
Jamie Glazov: Thank you. I’m begging for your cooperation.
Frank Gaffney: — quickly — Jamie, Jamie –
Jamie Glazov: I’ve just been threatened to be fired if I don’t enforce this better.
Frank Gaffney: I get one minute on this, please?
Jamie Glazov: My job’s on the line, Frank.
Jamie Glazov: Okay. Under 30 seconds?
Frank Gaffney: I say we keep Jamie’s job.
The thing that you can do most immediately, and with greatest effect — let’s be honest — is to support the work of the David Horowitz Freedom Center and groups like ours that are in the frontlines.
Jamie Glazov: Okay. We’re begging for questions, and not speeches.
Unidentified Audience Member: One short question — Mr. Gaffney, would you consider Grover Norquist to be naïve, deceived or corrupt?
Frank Gaffney: This is kind of like that question that was put to the President yesterday, wasn’t it?
I think he started out just being corrupt. I think he’s gone over to the dark side. I’ve been warning about this publicly, after doing so privately for several years, including with him. He was, after all, my landlord for seven years. And so it’s not a question of him being innocent or naïve, from that point forward. And when you see some of the stuff that I showed you at the end, of sort of becoming more brazen — I mean, crimeny, participating in a national leadership conference of Islamists and radical leftists?
I was told that more recently he’s now helping teach fundraising techniques to some of these guys. This is not just venality, or sheer corruption, I’m afraid. This is an affinity.
Jamie Glazov: Thank you, Frank.
We have one more question?
Unidentified Audience Member: Frank, what did the folks at — what is the program tonight for Grover, “60 Minutes” — what did they say about this? Or, how are they not exposed to this? Or what’s going on with “60 Minutes?”
Frank Gaffney: Like Robert not getting the President to return his phone calls, “60 Minutes” hasn’t shared with me their final product. I did brief them on this. I did have a chance to brief the producer. He told me that he shared it with Steve Kroft — not all of it, obviously, but he reported to him. I was told that he was interested. I further reported something that I learned only recently, which is that he’s also been helping the Iranians. So this is not just the Muslim Brotherhood as a pro-Islamist program, as Robert was just saying.
My guess is what you’ll see tonight is sort of a grudging paean to the most important man in the Republican Party, which, if you think about it, is a perfect setup for a subsequent takedown. And this is one of the reasons why I think we’ve got — as a movement, as a party — both to hold him accountable and give him a choice. He can be a leader of the conservative movement whose efforts are valued — I think in some areas not so much, but in others perhaps valued. I happen to like flying in and out of Reagan Airport, which was one of his real accomplishments.
But if he wants to be an enabler of the enemy, he cannot be a leader of the conservative movement — full stop.
Jamie Glazov: Thank you, Frank.
Ladies and gentlemen, the next panel is going to start right away. There’s not going to be a break.
Just a very quick personal note — there’s the Geert Wilderses in Europe. I just want to say that as the editor of FrontPage Magazine on this stage — in our society, these are four Geert Wilderses that are putting their lives on the line. Let’s give them a hand.
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