As for my being “anti-Muslim,” to oppose a radically repressive and intolerant ideology is not to oppose a people. If to defend the freedom of speech, the freedom of conscience, and the equality of rights of all people is “anti-Muslim,” I leave it to Tharoor to explain why his Religion of Peace ends up on the wrong side of such principles so often. And as for my being “routinely accused of hate speech,” that is only evidence of how indefatigably and tirelessly the Islamic supremacists and their stooges in the mainstream media try to discredit freedom fighters by charging them with “hate.” Anyone and everyone who dares to oppose the jihad and Islamic supremacism is tarred with the “hate speech” label. As Pamela Geller says, truth is the new hate speech. I will stick with the truth, thank you.
It’s wrong to suggest that Breivik is wholly a product of these politics. But it’s equally wrong to disregard them altogether. Standing at Ground Zero, I would never have considered even the most foulmouthed Islamophobe there to be capable of what Breivik did, or of inciting it. Yet Islam seems forever on trial, especially in the eyes of the Robert Spencers and Geert Wilders of the world. Why shouldn’t they now also be held to account for the terrors incubated by their own appalling ideology?
Tharoor does not and cannot quote anything that Wilders or I or any “foulmouthed Islamophobe” said that actually could be reasonably seen as inciting Breivik. In reality, an examination of his manifesto shows that I did not and could not have incited Breivik to commit any acts of violence.
There is a key distinction here that Tharoor, in his mad fury to demonize us, is glossing over: Islam is not “forever on trial” because of Wilders and me. Islam is “forever on trial,” at least for people who are paying attention to this issue, because of people like bin Laden, and Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, and Feisal Shahzad, and Abdulhakim Muhammad, Khalid Aldawsari, Baitullah Mehsud, and Roshonara Choudhry. Click on each link and you will see devout Muslims referencing Islamic teachings to justify violence against unbelievers.
By contrast, neither Wilders nor I nor anyone else who spoke at last year’s 9/11 Rally justified violence against Muslims or anyone. We have never called for it, never excused it, never contemplated it. But Tharoor has to ignore this, and hope the luckless remaining readers of Time Magazine don’t know it, in order to make his demonization stick.
Justice is driven back, and righteousness stands at a distance; truth has stumbled in the streets, honesty cannot enter. Truth is nowhere to be found, and whoever shuns evil becomes a prey. — Isaiah 59:14-15 (Thanks to Ron Morgen)
Join us again this September 11 at Ground Zero for our 9/11 Freedom Rally.
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Does anyone even read Time/Slime Magazine anymore? Didn't it disappear with bell bottoms?
I ran in to one the other day. Compared to the Time of many decades ago the writing style may have been written by a professor of ebonics.
I have a feeling that when it flondered, it was bought out by the BLACK MUSLIMS
At least, its writings smack fully of the same rethoric MAD DOG, the man OBAMA
calls a "GREAT MAN, preaches….
No TIME for it
My thought, exactly. I thought Time magazine went out of business years ago.
No one would need fear the Muslims if it were not the fifth columnists like Mayor Bloomberg.
He well knows the type of Muslim promoting the Mosque yet he still fights dirty to force it upon the New Yorkers.
It is against the law to creaet a school for crime.
THE TIMES iS OWNED By muslims are have always been with the jihad boys.
There is NO SUCH THING as "Islamophobia" .
What there is, is this: Growing awareness of Muslim madness, threat and perfidy.
I prefer "Islamorealism".
It astounds me that people still think the Time magazine and the NYT are fair and balanced news sources and not the left-leaning smear machines they are.
TIME will bring Robert Spencer and Pamela Geller more and more followers…those who never knew of them will now know, join and support them! Thank-You, TIME!
Tiime Magazine… I thought that Dr. Kavorkim? passed away without a legacy but apparently he left a network behind determined to guide the US to commit collective suicide.
It is completely amazing how a powerful, great country has been debased.
I pray that US patriots retake control before it will be too late.
I almost wish I had a subscription…so I could cancel it!
Foolster has it right. IT isn't "Islamophobia" when you don't fear them but rather LOATHE them.
Sometimes I wish we could fast forward 25 years so we could say to these P.C. folks, "See? I told you so." The only problem with that is the family we leave behind to live in such a world.
I actually cancelled my subscription today. this article was the last straw.
You guys asked that they include a synagogue inside the construction of a mosque and you wonder why people make fun of you?
GENIUS :
The reason why it was mentioned by Mr. SPENCER, together with a church,
a buddhist temple etc,. is a pun on the promoters of this monstrosity and
their claim of the purpose of building this super-mosque….
Do you know what would mean to the Muslim this building at GROUND
ZERO ???
Better learn about the tennets of ISLAM and then opine….
I’ve read the Koran and the Torah. I don’t have a problem with there being a mosque or a synagogue next to Larry Silverstein’s property. For me, it’s not holy land. It’s just a money changing pit.
The suggestion to include a Synagogue, a Church and a Buddhist Temple was meant to expose the propaganda fallacy of the Muslims that the GZMosque would somehow become an "interfaith" center. Muslims talk a good game about "interfaith dialogue"…but in the end, such lip service doesn't change the reality that they believe non-Muslims to be unclean.
Well sure. Religions are inherently absurd and the expectation that any religion would endorse a competing religion is equally absurd. But I wouldn’t go to a synagogue expecting a baptism and a bacon sandwich. I wouldn’t expect a briss and a set of phylacteries at a mosque.
It was a reasonable request considering the planners were calling it a "multi-faith" centre.
They insist it will not be a mosque, but trust me, it will be, just like the cafeteria at a Toronto PUBLIC school which is filled with gender-segregated praying Muslims every Friday now. Any non-Muslim who wanted to use the same time and place for praying wouldn't dare try (would be an interesting experiment though, maybe a Christian or Jewish teacher who didn't need their job too badly…?) Just like in so-called "multi-faith" prayer rooms at universities and airports. This is how the jihadists work, framing their demands in nice multiculti pieties that no-one can argue with, then once they have the space, they take it over by intimidation and sheer numbers. Don't let them do it. I would recommend loudly singing "Amazing Grace", or reciting from the Torah, or praying to Mother Earth, whatever your religious affiliations – make one up if you have to – wherever and whenever you see a Muslim praying. Don't try to stop him from praying, but just f***ing dare him to stop you.
Or maybe we could just not persecute people at all.
Since most of us are on the way to become DHIMMITS (ask the New York Times morons to explain what it means), why shoudn't we apply to the Muslims in our
midst the same JIHZA tax (half of the DHIMMI's yearly earning) ?????????
After all, in all of THEIR countries, DHIMMIS are third class citizens without any
rights whatsoever but here they enjoy full rights and protection under the Law,
WHICH NO DHIMMI DOES…
historically, dhimmis are afforded the luxury of living as infidels in a land the muslims conquered if they accept humiliation and pay crushing taxes, but only for awhile. ultimately, the muslim majority murders them. if only western societies would learn the successful tactics of their idols, the perpetrators of the religion of peace, and get rid of their hate filled muslims, they might survive. they are not learning, and will not survive.
I didn't know Time Magazine still existed…….
Considering we still have TB, Cancer, Alzheimers, morning sickness, insanity
and a host of other infirmities, The Times has a place in our World, lining
barf bags, wasting newsprint and the minds if any in their readership. However
do they exist? Only Rod Sterling could give the correct answer and alas he is
not available and I sincerely hope is in a place The Times would not tolerated.
William
Chritianophobe, heterophobe, conservaphobe, and Jewophobe. As long as we are labeling what kind are you? I think I might be an Obamaphobe.
Careful, pal. Who knows what the mainstream media will make of that?
Tharoor said, "I mention this because the manifesto of Anders Behring Breivik, the man behind the massacre in Norway, echoed those calls" (i.e., calls for cultures in which Islam is absent).
So what kind of culture does Islam call for? Those benign multicultures where all non-Islamic faiths are respected and allowed to flourish? Those kinds of cultures?
Why would anyone be surprised at a rally commemorating 9/11 at Ground Zero, that some people might shout extreme and offensive anti-Muslim remarks?
I mean, jeez, how tolerant does TIME expect people to be? If I were a Muslim, I think I would avoid the Ground Zero area on September 11s for a while longer. It just would make sense.
These are the same people who endorse the Tea Party being characterized as "terrorists" because they advocate, in strong (but peaceful) terms, cuts in government spending.
hey spencer… climb under a rock you slug!
Hey Smiley….someday, you ought to try a pork barbecue sandwich with a cold beer. Incredibly delicious!
Ha, HA!! very witty, very, very witty.
Hey scotsman, hey kilt ! why don't you go and have a pork, kidney and pacreas pie!! ha, ha!
Smiley,
Ha, ha! You sound like a cartoon character. You know, now that you think of it, they could use your words with that cartoon. You know the one with a bomb in a turban….
Now that would be funny Ha, ha!
Hey Smiley, FOAD.
Thanx in advance!
Stick to catcalls at Fenway popokopf.
Robert, from the bottom of my heart, thank you for all you do. It is remarkable the perseverance and internal fortitude you have. I have read most of your books. Thank you for bring to my attention that hate manual masquerading as a holy book. (These are my words not Robert Spencer who tends to keep is message factual and without malice.) I find it incredible that you are able to stay civil and calm knowing what you know and what you have seen.
Thank you again and God Bless you.
"The dogs bark, but the caravan passes."
"Time Magazine: Last year on Sept. 11, I stood at Ground Zero as hundreds of people shouted obscenities against Muslims and Islam."
Time Magazine does not print the truth. They would much rather lie to fit in with their political ideology. I have attended all of the rallies. I never heard a single person ever shouting obscenities against Muslims and Islam.
What did we shout? We shouted: "NO SHARIA!" "NO SHARIA!". "NO SHARIA!"
Why did we shout "NO SHARIA"? Because we believe deeply in justice, freedom and human rights for ALL people. Why are we so hated because of our belief in justice, freedom and human rights for ALL people?
When Time Magazine makes claims that "hundreds of people shouted obscenities against Muslims and Islam" at the anti-9/11 Victory Mosque rally, then Time Mag MUST support such claims.
Video cameras are widely available.
Time Magazine needs to support its claims. The people are too savy to blindly believe what Time Magazine prints anymore.
Put Up or SHUT UP "Time Magazine".
Some Muslims in America and countries around the world celebrated the murder of our 3,000. Thousands of Palestinian Authority Muslims celebrated the cruel slaughter of our 3,000. They went wild with joy and delight, dancing in the streets, firing into the air and passing out sweets. We will not forget .
Adding to our pain, New York City Mayor Bloomberg is doing his utmost to get as many free tax dollars as possible to help build the 9/11 victory mosque. The Mayor and NYC officials are sending a very powerful message to Muslim terrorists around the world: Mass murder Americans and you will be HONORED with a victory mosque at the place where you slaughtered our people.
Multitudes of Muslims must be lining up to attack America so that they too can be honored with a victory mosque.
The shocking plans to build a 9/11 victory mosque at sacred Ground Zero has created enormous stress.
Not only is our pain, anguish and tears ignored, but we are insulted and demonized and called bigots and anti-Muslim because we are vehemently against a mosque to honor Islam at the place where our cherished 3,000 were slaughtered without mercy by the followers of Islam. The betrayal of our beloved 3,000 is unbearable.
"Does anyone even read Time/Slime Magazine anymore? Didn't it disappear with bell bottoms? "
I like that …that is about the time I quit reading the stupid socialist rag.
mr roberto/rabidchristofascisto/spencero is definitely a dangerous psycho
Another one to enlighten us. Thanks for your opinion, it really matters to us what you think ~ NOT
I can only imagine what they (the islamo facist) are lining up for the 10 year anniversary of 9-11 which by the way is one month from today. You folks in the big cities need to have "eyes wide open" …. just sayin
Sam – We ALL need to live with our eyes wide open because the enemy is inside the perimeter.
You say "Time Magazine" and it's over, nothing to see, no story, all trash but
then again if one is studying deceit and the art of propaganda, then you might
not be wasting your time with the rag…………………………………..William
Mark Halperin called the President of the United States a dick. Barack Hussein Obama was a practicing Muslim throughout his entire youth through high school, as an undergraduate at Occidental and Columbia where he studied under his selected Marxist professors, at Harvard law school, after graduating Harvard Law School and even after passing the bar, and only converted for political reasons to the Marxist based Black Liberation Christian crackpot sect under the anti American, openly racist, anti semitic Reverend Jerimiah Wright when in his 30's. He really is a clandestine Muslim and a Marxist racist dick.
Muslims all around the world shout death wishes to other peoples.
Muslims don't seem to have shame and there seems to be no end to their haughtiness.
Islam == abomination.
I increasingly take pride in the appellation of islamophobe. What exactly is wrong in hating and fearing a lethal ideology that, like communism and fascism, calls for the eradication of hundreds of millions of people who resist or dispute the brutality of the koran and the hadith and sharia law. islamophobia is not hatred of muslims; it is loathing of the horrific message enunciated by the pedophile mohammad.
I try and follow all stories in the media related to this subject, but I've not quite seen the sheer inaccurate reporting we've been seeing over the past few weeks.It's one thing to have a biased article, I've become used to this.Like underreporting the number of protestors or labeling people far right.It's another to simply not report facts and make stuff up.I think that raises it to a whole new level.And I wonder if these reporters are just lazy or if they are under pressure to make sensationalized stories one has to question if any of there reporting can be trusted to contain basic facts.
Real clean internet site , regards for this post.
Time Magazine Joins the Jihad | FrontPage Magazine – just great!
trying to get it, but you are talking heresy. everyone knows (the media keeps telling us) that phobes are bad, and phobes are anyone that the media , and hollywood, our benevolent government, liberals, homosexuals, islamic worshipers of evil, and craven dhimmis dont like. please dont call me a phobe, i will surrender to slavery, convert to welfare dependency, crime, and an evil god called allah if you just dont call me a phobe. i would rather venerate a psychotic desert arch-criminal than suffer the agony of being called a phobe.
Israel did 9/11, you lousy prick. I have undeniable proof of it — watch '911 missing links' and you'll see that proof. You are so fking brainwashed by the Jew tube that it hurts.
i am sorry that you have such issues
Joe McCommie,
Here are British Muslims, Islam4UK, who admit and celebrate the 19 sand nazi SWINE who hijacked 4 planes on 9/11 as "the magnificent 19".
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1441270/Ma…
Whoever thouight of allowing antisemitic loony bin inmates access to laptops?
Not even Noam Chomsky, the intellectual godfather of the left and most ardent critic of Israel believes this nonsense.
Dumbass,
Here you can learn about the 5 dancing Israeli Mossad on 911: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X63CQ-dXkwU
hi joe. so why do palestinians and other muslims hand out candy and celebrate 911? are they jews in disguise? give us your real name muslim liar.
hi "joe" your right . muslims are way too stupid to pull something as epic as 911. must have been a jew. im thinking george judenrat soros. what do you think?