Politicizing Tragedy


After last Friday morning’s devastating shootings in Aurora, Colorado by maniac James Holmes, the liberal media responded with unbridled rage … at conservatives. First, ABC News’ Brian Ross attempted to label Holmes a Tea Partier based on nothing other than a quick Google search that turned up a “Jim Holmes” engaged in Aurora, Colorado Tea Party activity. As it turned out, the Tea Partier Jim Holmes was a fiftyish Hispanic male; the shooter was a 24-year-old white male.

Next, liberals leapt to the conclusion that lax gun control laws made the attacks possible. CNN’s Piers Morgan quickly tweeted, “America has got to do something about its gun laws. Now is the time.” He followed up that gem with this one: “More Americans will buy guns after this, to defend themselves, and so the dangerous spiral descends. When/how does it stop?” The answer, of course: the cycle stops when people defend themselves and shoot incipient murderers in self-defense.

Piers was merely the first to jump the gun, so to speak. “Soothing words are nice,” intoned New York Mayor Michael Bloomberg, between seizing the sodas of passersby. “But maybe it’s time that the two people who want to be president of the United States stand up and tell us what they are going to do about it, because this is obviously a problem across the country.”

Bloomberg’s line is the most telling. Liberals love nothing better than to myopically focus on one event, blow it out of proportion, and then use it as an excuse for national legislation. It’s the same pattern they pursued in the aftermath of the Trayvon Martin shooting, when suddenly the apparent killing of a teenage hoodlum by an overzealous neighborhood watchman turned into a national story about race … which, predictably enough, turned into a national controversy about “Stand Your Ground” laws and voter ID. Even though George Zimmerman, the shooter, hadn’t even initially claimed a defense under the “Stand Your Ground” statute.

But that’s the pattern: take an instance, freeze it, magnify it, polarize it, use it as a weapon. It’s pure Alinsky. That’s how the media turns the shooting of Gabby Giffords by Jared Loughner into a national debate over civility in politics. Ignoring the actual identities of the shooters in these cases is crucial – the facts usually cut against a good leftist narrative; so the left simply ignores the facts.

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  1. Mike says:

    And the anti bullying movement, it is a completely liberal fabricated problem. All the left did was declare there are no right or wrong behaviors, refuse to punish abusers then offer counseling to the victims. I have a special needs son who went through this, the complete refusal of the educators to tell the bully that physically assaulting a handicapped student was bad because that would be judging him! When truth becomes relative, it creates the chaos that evil men who want absolute power then walk through the rubble to rebuild society in their own ideal and likeness. Wasn't it Marx who said that?

    • Amused says:

      Your story sounds anecdotal at best . Anti-bullying campaigns do not exclusively exist in the realms of the left , they are initiated by ALL sensible people . And the problem is in fact being addressed . Try easing up on your "spin " lest you sound like an idiot .

      • Roger says:

        If there is no right or wrong, how do you define bullying?

        You may not be a complete idiot, but your talking points do have gaps in them.

        • Amused says:

          well Rogo , I'll dumb it down for ya .You did go to school didn't ya ? Are you gonna sit there and try an tell me you never witnessed a kid getting picked on constantly ? And please tell me , WHEN and WHERE did you EVER see in ANY of my posts , where I stated or implied that there was "no right or wrong " .Now you're acting stupid Rogo , and for the sake of a parroted political ideology ….oh well that's your choice …CHUMP . tsk ,tsk , and you did :"sound intelligent" for a moment further down the thread . LOL….funny , I never did notice whether the bullies , their victims or the parents of the victims , were Lefties or Righties ….did you Rogo ?
          I don't know Roger , judging by your picture , you seem old enough to know better , but I guess gullibility is a charachter defect that seems to run deep with most of you guys . After all even some of the brightest of ya'll like Krauthiemer still believe that Obama returned Churchill's bust back to the Brits.

          • Roger says:

            But that goes against the definition of the morals people have been teaching.

            If it feels good, people should be 'tolerant' and 'accept' and not condemn. You come here doing exactly what you just laid out as wrong .You act as if bullying is all right as long as it conservatives who go against the talking points.

          • Amused says:

            Oh Roger , there you asssdsuming like the rest of your lot ….please show me WHERE I indicated or implied that ? It is people like you who react to folks who want to deal with bullying [and not in the presumptious way you so errantly imply] that you criticize and brand as leftist . Sorry chumpn , your just another lock step parroting sycophant . Your brain has been filled and muddled with memes and talking points , so much so , that I'm beginning to wonder if you can think for yourself at all . Looks like you conservatives wanna take the place of the palestinians as eternal victims .

          • Amused says:

            you're out of intelligent replies Rogo and now you're just grasping for straws . You dont have an original though in your head , do ya ?

          • Roger says:

            It's hard to reply intelligently to so much stupid.
            But I do my best. What are you going to make up next?

            And you still haven't given a single example of the right making political points by falsely accusing a leftist of a crime the way you implied we did. You know, facts are not your friends.

            Now, what distracting comment will you come up with now?

          • Roger says:

            Why should I quote your own comment back while on the same thread?

            Go back and read it yourself.

            You are so typical of liberal hacks.

          • Amused says:

            Because you're full of sheeet and you know it Rogo -boy . Not only that , but you are a LIAR . Put up your proof or wear your crown asssswipe .

          • Roger says:

            Why should I go back and quote you from on this thread? Don't you remember what you said? Is that just asking too much from you?

          • Amused says:

            Why should you ? Because you have lied ,and made false accusations , so as a man you have the burden of proving yourself other than a LIAR . That's called honor Rogo-boy , a term you are unfamiliar with . Something you are devoid of since you have lied about my statements and make juvenile excuses when proof is required . I remember EVERYTHING I say , Liars like you dont , because liars can never remember their lies .

          • Roger says:

            No, it's called calling a spade a spade.

            You just don't know how to keep up.
            So, you revert to personal attacks since you don't have facts.

      • Looking4Sanity says:

        You must have a vile little soul to say such things to people you don't even know. You're so contemptible I can't even muster pity for you.

        • Amused says:

          Uh-oh the master hypocrite has chimed in

          • Roger says:

            Yes, and you did it with one sentence.

          • Amused says:

            Yea calling you a LIAR , because that is what you are . Still haven;t backed up a word you said = no honor either .

          • Roger says:

            You can use the word all you want.

            But that doesn't change who you are. And it frankly doesn't change who I am either.
            But it does go along with your fresh talking points.

          • Amused says:

            No shame either …….Where did you serve Rogo ? And When ?

          • Roger says:

            Where is your list of old profiles mr troll?

          • Amused says:

            Dont have any Roger . Where is your answer that you seem to be afraid to give . Where and When have you served your country ?

            You're approaching non-sequitur status Rogo-boy . Grow a pair and answer Rogo-boy .

          • Roger says:

            Of course you have. Where is your answer, and why don't you want to admit you're just a failed old troll that keeps struggling to pretend credibility?

          • exposed says:

            It appears the number of people calling you out for your BS is increasing. This is fun to watch. Think I'll get some popcorn.

          • Roger says:

            it appears that a number of parallel profiles are being generated by wee since he knows I'll pound his comments for all the hate they have.

    • Maxie says:

      "Wasn't it Marx who said that?" Marx had a passion to create the rubble. Re-build, not so much. A short essay on Marx can be found here: http://www.americanthinker.com/articles/../2012/0…
      (also (archives July 20, 2012)

  2. kong.ming says:

    Team Chicago classifying it as workplace violence, denying survivors benefits, and continuing to pay al-Qaeda support Major Piss On his $6,000 monthly salary is not politicizing?

  3. Justaguy says:

    Domestic violence, changing of the CIA lexicon, government paid leave, healthcare, protected of all reference to islam, ignoring of emails and self declared official and community presentations. Yep, the conservatives are quite the spin doctors… Oh and I forgot gun control, and the economic disadvantages that caused the conflict; it hasn't been mentioned yet, but you can be confident it will be said somewhere in time,… then maybe it won't.

  4. kong.ming says:

    I wonder if limousine liberals ever lived in a neighbor so violent police do not respond, and if they do the police only make sure it's safe for the ambulance to scrape the victim off the street when shootings take place. What's their plan for when they hear gunshots, call 911 and get transferred to a police dispatcher who says if their's no body then just come to the station and file a police report in the morning.

    Bloomberg travels in armored cars with ex special forces bodyguards to events protected by the air force. Police who advocate further restrictions on citizen's ability to protect themselves arm themselves heavily and in some occasions highly political like blaming gang violence on Sarah Palin or outright criminals themselves.

  5. clarespark says:

    There is even more to say about the "liberal" (i.e., collectivist) response to the massacre. Jumping to conclusions, as usual, many comments attacked the very notion of the lone individual as a murderous type. I wrote about that here: http://clarespark.com/2012/07/24/the-cracked-and-…. "The cracked and cracking loner as mass murderer." Does that have anything to with such archetypal characters as Captain Ahab? You betcha.

  6. ebonystone says:

    It's very revealing to consider the cases — like Aurora and Columbine — that the Left chooses to use for propaganda for its causes, and the cases it chooses to ignore.
    For example there are the cases of Major Hassan — 13 victims — and of Muhammad and Malvo — 10 victims — and various other Moslem attackers. Seems to me a case could be made that Islam needs to be controlled in this country, at least as much as guns need to be controlled.
    Then there are the cases of John Gacy — 33 victims — and Jeff Dahmer –17– and Wayne Williams — 25 to 30. Sure looks like there's a big homosexual problem, surely we need strict federal control of homosexuals to prevent further tragedies like these.

  7. clarespark says:

    In my view, the collectivist assault upon James E. Holmes has been delivered as an attack on the lone individual as such. I wrote about that here: http://clarespark.com/2012/07/24/the-cracked-and-…. It is way too soon to draw conclusions about the psyche of this young man, who may be psychotic. See http://clarespark.com/2012/07/24/the-cracked-and-…. "The cracked and cracking loner as mass murderer." It is a familiar archetype, much beloved by "liberals.".

  8. clarespark says:

    The press reports frequently incorporated the massacre into the "loner" diagnosis. I decode that here: http://clarespark.com/2012/07/24/the-cracked-and-…. "The Cracked and Cracking Loner as Mass Murderer."

    • Amused says:

      "decode " ? What did you decode ?

      • clarespark says:

        First I should apologize for the multiple postings of the same item. My computer didn't show that they were posted. Second, I decoded the "loner" archetype that has been applied both to real psychotics and to Prometheans. The essay explained that in detail. What is your problem with the word "decoded" Amused? If you have any questions about what I wrote, do tell. I can answer any question about the dread "rugged individual" said by collectivists to typify American national character.

        • amused says:

          I asked , what did you decode regarding this shooter . A loner ? yes , yes , and ?

          • Amused says:

            Many great minds have been "loners " , many normal people are "loners " , it is a matter of common preference or possibly a congenital thing like autism in varying degrees /. Ahab's beef was with God . He had one of those " From Hells Heart I strike at Thee " moments ,which brought about the destruction of himself ,his ship and crew .[save for one ] . When a man resorts to an action like that of Holmes , there is a psychosis involved , and I doubt anyone will ever pinpoint the moment in his life's experience that predisposed him to such an act . It would leave one to believe , that if not his academic failure, then another inevitable "trigger " would have resulted in the same , possibly somewhere else , or had an interupting circumstance come about in this plan . [ something as ignominious as a flat tire . He did Plan Though .How should dashed dreams affect normal human minds ? What was the purpose of the body armor ? To survive ? Or to prolong his act for as long as possible before being killed himself ? The emotion involved was unbridled anger and hatred , but of what ? No One will ever outsmart crazy .

          • Roger says:

            So, you attack the Almighty. On a thread that didn't have a thing to do with judaism.

            All this hate and stupid is based on what? You haven't noticed the evils of islam, why is that?

          • Amused says:

            Rogo-boy , I think you're off your meds .LOL…."attack the Almighty " ??? Where ? You dunce . I haven't noticed the evils of islam ? Did you just fall out of a christmas tree ? Roger the more you open your mouth , the more you're proving to me that you're an idiot . What's the matter with you Rogo ? Again , put your money where your big mouth is , cut and paste any post of mine you can find and show me where ,what you allege is indicated .

          • Amused says:

            btw Rogo-boy , you have earned the title of SCHMUCK .

          • Roger says:

            Why, do you think you have any credibility here with the stuff you post?

            Good luck with that, not.

          • Roger says:

            Poor little amused. You know the name for the God that protects Israel? The one that's strong enough the combined forced all around them can't push them into the sea?

            And you said a lot without actually saying anything. Once more you danced around the real evil, islam. Do you support sharia and the religion that demands you stone a rape victim for being a slut?

          • Amused says:

            How'd you get so stupid Rogo-boy?. You are a LIAR , and you know it . BTW , I'm a Jew , have been to Israel atleast 9 times since 1966 , you're nothing but an internet scrub , who parrots what he hears . For you to regurgitate such false accusations and slander just proves that my definition of you is spot -on . Put up or shut-up moron . They got a spot on Breibart .com for you chump , you fit the bill .

          • Roger says:

            Don't forget the military service. If you want to make up profile information it's not complete without veteran status due to brave years served in the service of our nation.

            And here you are regugitating, slandering, and redifining with the best of them.

          • Amused says:

            4th ID 4th Eng Batt .-Dragon Mountain , Pleiku -Dec.1969 – Feb. 1970 -where were you Rogo -boy ?

          • Roger says:

            See, if you put your mind to it, you can make up a tremendous fake profile!

            Don't forget to throw in the six figure income too while you're at it.

          • Looking4Sanity says:

            Don't be stingy! As long as he's pulling monkeys out of his buttocks, he might as well make it 7 figures!

          • Roger says:

            Yeah, I'm not sure if he can spell the big numbers….

          • Amused says:

            Wrong again girls , nothing in my profile at all …whose pulling monkeys out of their arse ? Sister tag team , you're spinning your wheels . Where did you serve Rogo-boy ? Hows about you sister act ?

          • Amused says:

            So Roger -WHERE and WHEN did you serve your country ?

          • Amused says:

            Hows about you [still] Looking 4 your sanity ?

          • Roger says:

            Are you looking for the list of failed troll names you posted under? Why should we tell you the time of day when you hide behind numerous profiles and names to hide your version of stupid?

          • Roger says:

            My, you're reduced to this? Posting as a guest with nothing in your profile. What's wrong? Can't keep track of multiple profiles or something mr whine baby?

          • Amused says:

            Only got one Rogo-boy ….that's Amused ./ My words state who and what I am , dont need a profile with a phony statement "serious debate " and a phony picture trying to look serious . .
            So WHERE and WHEN did you serve your country Rogo-boy ?

            That question overtax your brain's ability to answer ? Or are you just another chicken – hawk ?

          • Roger says:

            And my words explain my loyalty to country.

            Boy you helped me explain that one. You just keep walking into these, don't you?

          • Amused says:

            Your words explain nothing , you're profile is phony and so are you . Answer the question …WHERE and WHEN have you served your country ….chicken-hawk ?

          • Roger says:

            Your words explain even less.

            So what failed profiles have you run in the past?

          • exposed says:

            I don't understand why you can't answer a simple question? Are you hiding something?

          • Roger says:

            I don't understand why you won't answer a simple question, what other failed troll profiles have you posted under? Not just you, but the one that generated you as a parallel profile too.

            You know, are you hiding something?

  9. clarespark says:

    See my piece on the massacre here: http://clarespark.com/2012/07/24/the-cracked-and-…. "The cracked and cracking loner as mass murderer."

    • amused says:

      Clarespark – was Holmes NOT a loner ? What is it you're really trying to say ?

      • clarespark says:

        He is being described as a loner, and and numerous persons, incuding some that I respect, have described him as "cracking" or "cracked." My purpose in the blog was to describe a "type" of individual in fiction who are held to be crazy by persons whose philosophy of social relations is collectivist, and hostile to "individualism" as such. I have no opinion as to Holmes's mental states, although recent leaks suggest that he is indeed a paranoid schizophrenic. I was more interested in the near consensus among "progressives" that Melville's character Captain Ahab is a monomaniac and mass murderer, while privately agreeing that Melville himself was a loner and a Captain Ahab.

  10. Chiggles says:

    The Fort Hood massacre WAS political, stupid. It was an act of war by an enemy alien.

  11. Chiggles says:

    For catsake stop calling this a "tragedy" already. A tragedy is a daycare bus crashing into a nursing home. This, as Jeff Cooper said of 9/11, is rather an atrocity. At least no one has referred to Holmes as "the gentleman". Not yet, anyway.

    • clarespark says:

      No, the word tragedy is from classical Greece, and refers to the fall of a hero, felled by hubris. In the Greek context, that meant someone who defied the Fates. Such a hero is often called the tragic hero. No hubris, no fatal flaw.

  12. CherDash says:

    Ben, you nailed it yet again!

  13. Canuck says:

    Leftists are neither liberal, nor progressive; they’re better describes as statists or socialists, or more kindly as victims of brainwashing. Luckily, Americans have the second amendment to guarantee their natural right of self-defense against criminals or terrorists, but also against a potentially tyrannical government.

  14. Vermont Yid says:

    Yesterday, millions of gun owners in the USA killed no one.

    Had there been one or more legally armed citizens in the movie theater, the killing and wounding might have been stopped before it got to 12 and 58.

    If it's the job of the police to protect us citizens, then why have I never seen a cop in my home?

    If Pierce Morgan doesn't like Americans walking around with guns, why doesn't he just pack up and go back to Londonistan? And, by the way, "An armed man is a citizen. An unarmed man is a subject."

    WHEN SECONDS COUNT THE POLICE ARE ONLY MINUTES AWAY!

    • Looking4Sanity says:

      Yeah. I have to laugh every time I hear some liberal like Bloomberg talk about the police "protecting" the public. That's not even in their job description any more. They're more like the sanitation department for criminals. They'll come and clean up the mess after everyone's run out of ammo and then ensure that the politically correct dupe gets assigned the blame. Cops are almost as useful as teats on a boar hog.

  15. Amused says:

    So far in all the incidents mentioned by Shapiro , BOTH right and left wasted no time "jumping in " with their political views and ideologies . BOTH accusing one another of politicizing the tragedies . Just like Shapiro's article here .

    • Roger says:

      Pointing out facts is different than making attacks based on rhetoric instead of facts.

      • Amused says:

        what in my post is not factual ? would you deny both have not jumped in feet first to politicize this ? c'mon Roger you seem smarter than that .

        • Roger says:

          Of course I'm smarter than that.

          We haven't made any claims of crime suspects being connected to the occupy crowd simply based on similarities in names. Of course you can feel free to set me straight if we have.

          • Amused says:

            Who's "we " Roger ? Are "we" changing subjects now to " the occupy crowd " ? Are YOU trying to make a connection to the Aurora shooter ? Or is it just another of your strawmans ?

          • Roger says:

            Since you attacked the conservatives as politicizing, we would refer to all those you accused.

            And I notice you didn't set the record straight with facts, the record or even any liberal hack links.

          • Amused says:

            You mean since I ATTACKED BOTH , dont you Rogo ? Again please show me where my criticism of politicizing this tragedy was singularly aimed at conservatives .Having reading comprehension problems Rogo ? I think so . Do I really need to direct you with links to a lefty blog that's doing EXACTLY the same thing the people on this blog are doing ? Cognizant dissonance learn the meaning of that term Rogo.

          • Roger says:

            Since you attacked both that would include republicans and conservatives.

            You sure make this easy.

          • Amused says:

            No my brain-dead adversarry , go back and read the post , I distinctly state RIGHT AND LEFT . Conservatives like you just give Republicans a bad name …lol…as if they needed any help .
            I doubt anything comes easy to you Rogo-boy , thinking must be real painful eh ? That why you dont do it before you speak ?

          • Looking4Sanity says:

            And you think that smearing an innocent party is justified by virtue of getting a little bit of that poop you're flinging on yourself?

            Even a five year old could see right through that childish ruse.

          • Roger says:

            So, right and left doesn't somehow include the right?

            You failed your own test, and don't even realize it. So, who wrote the test for you? You going to admit to having a handler too?

          • Roger says:

            I don't think L4S is a liberal.
            So, not brain dead, by definition.

            And you believe your muslim friendly talking points, that khazar stuff is iranian.

            That's pretty much a tell. So, what paid hack profile are you used to going by?

          • Looking4Sanity says:

            My, oh my! Those Iranians really have nasty tempers, don't they! I wonder if he kisses his imam with that mouth?

          • Roger says:

            Not mouth to mouth. You can guess where they aim.

          • Amused says:

            LOL…handler ? Where did you serve Rogo ? At the water cooler ? C'mon what's one more lie to you ?

          • Roger says:

            Side stepping the question.

            How typical. But then drones aren't expected to think. And you don't seem to know how, so I'm thinking you are fitting right in at the troll farm.

          • Amused says:

            Still hjaven't answered Rogo-WHERE and WHEN did you serve your country ……YOU are the one sidestepping . I dont have a handler and neither do you , so lets get your nonsense out of the way , try to be a man and answer a simple question .

          • Roger says:

            And you haven't answered about what other profiles you have used.

            So, I'd say you really aren't in a position to make demands about things.

            Oh, it must be hard being a hack troll.

          • Looking4Sanity says:

            Isn't it funny how liberals in general find it so easy to place demands on others? It must be that sense of entitlement they're born with.

          • Roger says:

            It's their emotional attachments to the 'participation' awards.

          • Looking4Sanity says:

            So, you're saying a false sense of pride and accomplishment causes it? I'm not entirely sure how that works…then again, I try not to venture too far into the liberal psyche. That's a dangerous voyage.

          • Roger says:

            When you venture from the facts as being unimportant, it's amazing how well the media can toy with your mind. And of course, how religions (sharia) can seem valuable.

          • Amused says:

            oh …it's a demand now ? I answered , I habe no other profiles , If you think I have please bring forth the tags .
            It's obvious you haven't served your country in any capacity other than being a chicken-hawk on the internet , and a lying one at that .
            LOL….Have Computer Will Lie " .

          • Roger says:

            My my, so you don't run the failed profiles you have had in the past. And you're too much a coward to list them.

  16. BS77 says:

    Does anyone watch that totally boring Piers Morgan show? Better to watch paint dry.

    • amused says:

      No , but I love the Number Robert Blake did on him .That piece may still be on You Tube …it was great watched it atleast ten times .

      • Roger says:

        So you are easily amused?

        • Amused says:

          all depends , I love Blake , watched him in the little rascals , besides , if you dont know how to laugh in this world , you're gonna spend alot of time crying .

          • Roger says:

            Yawn, this is your cutting edge insult?

          • Amused says:

            Rogo-boy , you're getting worse by the post …"cutting edge insult " ??? Tell me Rogo , what asylum are you housed in ?

          • Roger says:

            Why do you think conservatives are housed in a plantation like the liberal left like to keep their drones?

          • Amused says:

            No Rogo-boy , people like YOU are usually housed in asylums for their own protection . Do they give you yuour crash helmet to preventy you from bashing your head against the wall ? Or were they too late ,and your brain is already scrambled ?

          • Roger says:

            We don't need helmets on my side of the isle.

            What liberal plantation are you assigned to? Chicago or Detroit?

          • Amused says:

            you're babbling now Rog-boy

          • Roger says:

            So, that would be detroit?

          • Amused says:

            C'mon Rogo-boy artificial patriot and liar that you are …When and where did you serve your country ?
            Gonna answer or just blurt out some more juvenile B.S. ?

          • Roger says:

            There you go again. So much anger!

            How long ago has it been since I shredded you under your own profile?

          • Amused says:

            I guess you didn't huh Rogo-boy ? And my profile ? There's nothing there to shred liar ./
            No truth /no honor /no integrity …..that about sizes you up . Whenever you grow a pair , maybe yo can summon up the courage to answer …WHEN and WHERE did you serve your country ? Or are you one of those chicken-hawks ?

          • Roger says:

            Profile? Which ones?

            To quote a great line "I don't see no stinkin profile…"

          • Amused says:

            Told you already , dunce -dont have one , now try to be a grown-up man and answer the question Robgo-boy …WHERE and WHEN did you serve your country ?

          • Roger says:

            And when you answer on your profile backgrounds then you'll be in a position to make demands.

            Not really, but in a better position to make demands. You demand disclosure about things I don't make claims on, and I request disclosure on things you have made claims on.

            See the subtle difference mr troll?

          • Amused says:

            More diversions Roger , you're becoming hysterical now , gonna have a hissy-fit soon ? I've already answered your phony diversionary question . You wont answer because you are in fact a chicken-hawk , battle-experienced and pretending on an internet blog .

          • Roger says:

            More diversion amused? You're still hysterical. And you still haven't given a list of the failed troll profiles you have run in the past.

  17. Jim says:

    Read the book "News Twisters". Probably not still in print.

  18. I think I'm pretty conservative but I don't particulary want to toe any party line therefore I'd like to state that this idea that as long as we have a lot of concealed carry Rambos out there all the James Holmes' will be immediately taken care of lickity split is the biggest load of BS I have ever heard. I'm not against the 2nd amendment or against cc but let's be honest about the mentality of lot of people spouting off about how they would do this and that and "take care of business". I've lived in the West long enough to know that a high percentage of them are simply people who take their values from Steven Segal-type movies and just can't wait to try and kill somebody. If trained cops can't always get it right how do these bozos expect -except in thier own grandiose fantasies – to do the job right assuming they are in the right place.

    • Vermont Yid says:

      I don't watch "…Steven Segal-type movies…" and I'm not hoping to kill anyone. That said, the cops can't be everywhere to protect our assez when our lives are threatened. Soooo it's up to each of us to protect ourselves, our families, etc. If there had been even one legally armed citizen in that movie theater, Holmes might have been stopped before doing all the damage he did.

      As a law-abiding citizen, I have the right (remember the 2nd amendment?) to be armed. That means that I have the right to use deadly force should it be necessary.

      WHEN SECONDS COUNT, THE POLICE ARE ONLY MINUTES AWAY!

  19. Ghostwriter says:

    Let me strip away the political nonsense. James Holmes was a demented lunatic who killed people simply because he wanted to. He should have been in a mental institution,not walking around doing what he was doing. That's all you need to know on this matter. I hope he gets the death penalty. He deserves nothing less.

    • mrbean says:

      Then you should agree that Trayvon Martin was a hating whitey negro thug who got himself killed when he brutally attacked an adult neighborhood watch who thought it strange that someone was walking not on the sidewalk but between the buildings. Maybe if his absentee old man and his mama had taught him some basic manners this would never have happend, and we would not have to listen to everyone's lies from the MSM. to the President to the negro lynch mobs to white wymons with a Kardasian syndrome for a black lover that "Trayvon beez a goot chile who beez stalk and kilt by dat awful racist white man."

      • Amused says:

        back under the rock with you mr.bean- brain .

        • Roger says:

          Why, you need company?
          You seem to be hiding under the rocks since you have your guest comments.

          • Amused says:

            Wrong again schmuck [ you earned the title ] , I haven't made a single post under any other tag than Amused . Why dont you get a room with mr.bean-brain …..both of you are cracked and birds of a feather .

          • Roger says:

            And of course anyone here knows you always tell the complete truth.

          • Amused says:

            You got that right CHUMP . You hide from it . Tell me wizard , where is the bust of Churchill that all you repocons harp on all the time ?

          • Roger says:

            Hiding the british embassy until after obama leaves office. http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162-57481840-5

          • Amused says:

            That was your litmus test you brainwashed parrot . [ YOU FAILED] That's a lie you swallowed along with the rest of your lot , the bust of Churchill sits where it always has ,in the White House . Remember cognizant dissonance ? get out your dictionary you gullible dunce .No wonder you're a liar , you're practiced at it ain't ya ?

          • Roger says:

            But it's true. So, you swallowed. Wipe you chin dear.

          • Amused says:

            Rogo ! I didn't know !! Your gay tendencies coming to the surface eh ? Hey wait a minute ! That why miss Looking-4-her Sanitary is here ? Ahhh now I get it ! LOL….a gay tag team ! You guys spend alota time in Airport mensrooms ? Ya know doin' the tap dance ? LOLOLOL …looks like you fail the "straight test " too , poor little Rogo-boy .

          • Roger says:

            People are here at this site for serious issues and here you are talking about anything else.

            You're just a distraction people try to get around to have a serious debate.

          • Looking4Sanity says:

            Where's your proof? Roger posted a link. It looks like you're the one who's lying from where I'm sitting!

          • Roger says:

            Again, and again and again.

            I wonder what recycled troll he is, using a guest comment because he's terrified of us going after him like we have before under other names?

          • Amused says:

            you delude yourself moron .

          • Roger says:

            And you fool no one.

          • Amused says:

            you don't even know what the f—k we're talking about .Go put your head back up your asss Looking4[your]sanity .

          • Looking4Sanity says:

            You seem to be fixated on anuses this evening. Did you lose something up there? Is that your problem, Hadji? Please don't tell me you lost ANOTHER gerbil!

          • Roger says:

            Do you think he needs a case of charmin and is just cranky because his food stamp card won't buy it?

          • Amused says:

            unfortunately I must because that is where your head resides , distatstefull I know but some ones gotta do it .

          • Roger says:

            For a new troll you sure do know a lot about the people you want to hate.

            What old troll are you? Which failed old has been is back as a guest to just be a jerk? Is this Wee perhaps?

          • Amused says:

            Don't hate anyone Rogo-boy , not new here either , have always been Amused .
            Changing subjects again eh ?
            STILL Afraid to answer ..WHERE and WHEN have you served your country ?

          • Roger says:

            Why would I hate someone that doesn't even deserve contempt?

          • Amused says:

            Getting confused now chicken-hawk ? LOLOL…you were the one who said " I was a troll who knows alot about the people I want to hate " , forgot that already from 1 hr ago ? Lol…..you dribbling on your keyboard now chicken -hawk ?
            Getting incoherent now ROGO_BOY ???

            LOLOL….what a fool !

          • Roger says:

            And you don't deny you want to hate.
            And I never claimed I did.

            See how that works? So, what old troll are you?

      • Looking4Sanity says:

        You certainly found the most offensive way to make your point. Given that your reasoning is sound, do you really think that was necessary?

        • Amused says:

          Two morons complimenting one another …I'm amused . Get a room you two !

          • Roger says:

            You have a partner?
            Frankly I don't need to hear about it.
            TMI

          • Amused says:

            Frankly ? New word Rogo-boy ? Hows about you and your partner , two phony patriots tell me where and when you served your country ? Don't think I'll get an anwer there huh girls ?

          • Roger says:

            So, another pretend patriot.

            There are so many muslim friendly trolls that could be. But I'd guess someone that is just fresh failed and angry at looking like a fool.

          • Amused says:

            No , not pretend chump . I can see you're too dumb and lazy to read and ascertain my position on muslims and islam .

            Still afraid to answer Rogo-boy ? Where and when did you serve your country ?

          • Roger says:

            I can see you're too stupid to explain it and still hide your agenda.

            Still afraid to tell me what old trolls you have been in the past?

          • rogo65 says:

            Sure , no problem , post your name and verifiable address dunce and I'll post it . In the meantime it looks like YOUR handlers took care of Amused , so I had to re-up under an appropriate name . btw , no one dragged you into this , you inserted yourself .
            Abd what ? "puerile demad for personal information " ? Don't make me laugh ? Whether nor not you served your country is personal information ? …lol….yea I guess for a chicken hawk it is ? Adios chump

            As for you Rogo-boy looks like you two have the handlers , no surprise there , they enable morons like mr.bean to spew his racist crap , and backup TWO idiots like you and [still] looking4 [his ] sanity , and several other chicken-hawk -patriots , no wonder they try to silence me , because I wont walk lockstep with their views . Hope you like my new tag Rogo-boy

          • Roger says:

            What's wrong? Another guest profile?

            This is funny, you must have really been beaten badly in another profile.

          • rogo65 says:

            Nope , FPM is joined with other wordpress blogs , one thing is for sure , they blocked Amused because YOU two were getting hammered and were making fools of yourselves ….after all …there's other chicken -hawks on these threads to consider . No problemo I encounter the same on the Lefty Blogs and Islamic Forum were I'm public enemy #1 . Thank goodness gfior Dynamic IP's . All in all it was worth the trouble re-upping if not for anything ,but to expose you hypocrites TWO for what you are , liars and chicken-hawks . And uh …Rogo-boy , no need to fear answering that question , you've already answered it . Adios CHUMP [ S ]

          • Roger says:

            I hate to bother you with facts. But if you sign on to intense debate you can post here on this forum. Hello…. earth to what every recycled troll you are.

            And how do you define chicken hawks? Those who love this country and want it to be what the founding father's set up? Why would that be something you can use as an insult, unless you want some other form of failed government. In that case, why not just lay out what you do support so people here can see you for what you are.

          • rogo65 says:

            How ? YOU . Besides you never said anything to me regarding this "new notion " that you speak of – "love of country " …Founding Fathers " . You chose instead to attack me because I exposed and criticized the hypocrisy of the author's article . /you're not a man of honor , you lied . If you hadn't wasted so much of your time doing that , and had read my posts you'd know exactly where I stand on any issue I have entered the discussion on . But you did not do that did you ? People who have the attention span long enoug to have read my posts know that A) I oppose islam B ) I am and have been since the day I was first able to vote NPA /INDEPENDENT /A CENTRIST . And THAT is the reason that you and several others here dislike what I have to say , I dont tow the line for Democrats OR Republicans / Conservatives OR Liberals PERIOD

          • Roger says:

            Are you pretending to make any sense?

            I don't think so.

            So, did you pretend to have a point?
            And you tow the line all right, and the line is reeling you into the liberal plantation.

          • rogo65 says:

            Wrong again genius , I signed on as Amused without a loggin .For the past months, if I chose to I could put any tag that I chose under my posts . You didn;t know that either …DID YOU ? Go ask YOUR handlers .

          • Roger says:

            See, that's what I'm talking about. You won't admit to what previous trolls you have been. Is it you're just a hack that doesn't want anyone to realize how bad you've been?

          • Looking4Sanity says:

            Now you want to drag me into your puerile demand for personal information? I tell you what. You post your DD-214 on line for everyone to see and then I'll tell you what you want to know.

  20. amused says:

    This thread is sure acting funny ,posts disappearing and all , so I'll say this again .

    Good Grief Ghostwriter ! You have a well functioning brain !

    • mrbean says:

      Both Ghostwriter and amused are not the sharpest knives in the drawer. The majority of their posts indicate they have received a dumbed down progressive education and their intellectual development is permanently retarded. oh dear I guesd the PC word is severely challenged.

      • rogo65 says:

        coming from a racist like you mr.bean , one who is the epitomy of the words crude , bigoted and obtuse ,I'd take your ignorant statement as compliment , for it ensures that in no way can said participants be connected to or associated with you or your warped racist routine .

      • Ghostwriter says:

        So sayeth the bigoted mrbean,who revels in stereotypes that went out with the 1960's. Why don't you join the 21st Century?

    • Roger says:

      If it was the ones that don't deserve to stay, then you'd have even more drop off.

      • Amused says:

        So stalking is your bag eh Rogo ? You think yourself a hero Rogo ? BTW , FPM exercises censorship at their pleasure . Buy hey since you thought what I said about Blake was an " attempt at a cutting edge insult " her's a good ole' traditional one for ya – GFY ….do it now chump dont waste anymore time /.

        • Roger says:

          My my, so tolerant and accepting of diversity. You must be a liberal.

          • Amused says:

            You're not "diverse " Rogo-boy , you're an imbecile .

          • Amused says:

            oh …and did I leave out LIAR .

          • Roger says:

            You aren't very bright if you can't even remember to include insults with the talking points.

          • Roger says:

            Shame on me, I actually consider stupid a problem.
            So of course I don't look forward to your posts.

          • Amused says:

            One thing I did forget LIAR , and that is you can't fix stupid – too bad for you huh Rogo-boy . BTW scroll up and see your test failure , and you walked right into you dunce .

          • Looking4Sanity says:

            Silly rabbit. Never drink and derive!

          • Roger says:

            The camel always finds it's way home after a long night of date wine and dancing boys…

          • Looking4Sanity says:

            Yes, but can it solve calculus problems as it goes?

          • Roger says:

            Calculus, isn't that what you have in your kidneys when you don't drink enough water?

          • Looking4Sanity says:

            Indeed it is, but I'm not going to wish that on anyone…including the cretin known as "Amused". Besides…he'll probably get some of that action on his own out there in the Iranian desert!

          • Amused says:

            Oh boy , a sister act , you go girl Rogo

          • Looking4Sanity says:

            Tell your imam he did a lousy job training you in that madrassa. You can't insult for squat.

          • Amused says:

            C'mon girls , that all you got ? Did I see a limp wrist in that avatar iof yours Rogo ? Betcha getting some pickups huh ?

          • Roger says:

            No thanks. I'm not interested.

            And your mom is to busy to work me in.

          • Amused says:

            Now that's more like the stuff you post …stuck in your own shiit eh Rogo-boy ?
            Hows about answering the question ? Where and when have you served your country ?

          • Roger says:

            So, you sound like Wee, are posting a lot when Wee isn't posting and have started where he always goes.

            Is that the troll we're dealing with here?

          • Amused says:

            Nope wrong again wizard , I've been here posting as Amused that's it .
            Got anymore diversions from answering ?

            WHERE and When have you served our country Roger ?

  21. texasron says:

    The doctor who was treating the shooter probably felt she was doing him some good by not notifying the police when, I'm sure, she realized he had violent tendencies. She was concerned for "his feelings" as all good liberals think.

    • Looking4Sanity says:

      Now there's a great topic for discussion! Why is the psychiatric industry top loaded with flaming liberals? The answer is obvious to me.

  22. Western Sspirit says:

    The Left always ignore the facts and appeal to emotions they play on to legislate laws.

  23. rogo65 says:

    bye bye you TWO chicken hawks , no more time to waste on schmucks and liars …lol…I hereby dub thee – non-sequitur [s]
    btw …rogo-boy , like my new tag ? Knew you would …no wonder you two skulck around so much in the 'replies " . Wanna duel in the open ?

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