During a Homeland Security committee hearing last week on the “Radicalization of Muslim-Americans,” Texas Congressman Al Green (D) criticized the hearings as biased and unfair to Muslims, suggesting that the only way to justify such hearings is if Congress would also conduct a “hearing on the radicalization of Christians.”
Though his position may seem plausible and balanced, in fact, it reveals a dangerous mix of irrationality, moral relativism, and emotionalism—all disastrous traits in a U.S. Congressman. Consider some of Green’s assertions:
I don’t think that most people oppose hearings on radicalization. I do not, not — N-O-T — oppose hearings on radicalization. I do oppose hearings that don’t focus on the entirety of radicalization…. [W]hy not have a hearing on the radicalization of Christians?… People who see the hearings and never hear about the hearing on the radicalization of Christianity have to ask themselves, “Why is this missing?”
Fair question—“Why not have a hearing on the radicalization of Christians?” Before responding, we must acknowledge that the word “radicalization” simply means “to go to the root or origin of something,” in this case, religion: a Muslim radical goes to the root teachings of Islam; a Christian radical goes to the root teachings of Christianity. Accordingly, there are certainly “Christian radicals” in America. The question is, do they pose the same risks to America as Muslim radicals?
Green and all moral relativists naturally do not want to pursue such a question, pretending that any form of “radicalization”—regardless of the “root teachings”—is evil. They are certainly not interested in determining the root teachings of Christianity and Islam, and whether they are equally prone to violence, terrorism, conquest, etc. While this is not the place to contrast modern Christianity’s apolitical and largely passive nature with modern Islam’s political and largely aggressive nature—a theme elaboratedhere—suffice it to say that, while thousands of modern-day Muslim leaders are on record quoting Islamic scriptures to justify violence and hate, one is hard pressed to find examples of Christian leaders preaching violence and hate—and justifying it through scripture.
The Saudi Grand Mufti, the highest religious official of Saudi Arabia, Islam’s holiest nation, called on the destruction of all regional churches, quoting Islamic texts. Can Green find an example of an equally authoritative Christian leader calling for the destruction of mosques—and supporting it through the Bible?
Green went on to ask “Why don’t we go to the next step and ask, how is that a blue-eyed, blonde-haired, white female in the United States of America can become radicalized to the point of wanting to do harm to this country? We don’t have that type of hearing. That’s the problem.”
Thus, not only does the Congressman irrationally conflate the teachings of all religions together, he also conflates religion with race and gender, implying that the only reason there are hearings on Muslim radicalization is because Muslims are not white, whereas those “equally-dangerous” blue-eyed, blond-haired female Christian “radicals” apparently get a free pass to terrorize America.
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I think I see where congressman green's confusion comes in. He probably hasn't noticed that the bulk of the worlds problems revolve around the gutter cult of islam. If he would listen to both Christians and muslims and ask each what they believe, he'd get a pretty good idea. Now Christians are known to pray and to worship God, where muslims, altho' they claim to "pray", it's to a made up moon god that was invented by a madman named mohamat (the dog faced pig, or is that pig faced dog? It depends on which sect, sunni v. shia) who also penned the ultimate terror guide, the koran. Christians want to save unbelievers, muslims want to kill unbelievers.
Yes, congressman green. Let's have hearings about White Chistian Women. Maybe you'll learn something. Let's also have hearings on muslims. Personally, I avoid muslims like I avoid rabid dogs. The main difference between a muslim and a rabid dog, is that at one point in it's life, the dog had value.
Why not have hearings to determine why so many members of the Congressional Black Caucus are such dimwits? I have yet to hear one of them make a statement that was actually intelligent or relevant to whatever the subject was. I know that there are many educated, intelligent, and articulate Black people in this nation but they never wind up in Congress for some reason. Hummmm.
This vile, lying radical, extremist "congressman" should be impeached immediately!!
your joking right, this moran was voted in by other moraNS and that in itself tells you a lot about American voters I still do not understand the need to include white women in the above statement what does color of skin have to do with racical religions?
Hey, I don't care. I say "Bring it on." Bring on all the hearings you want of Christian radicals, blue or brown eyed! It will be very humorous watching Green and Ellison make such fools of themselves! The rest of the world will probably either laugh or yawn at their silly little inquisition!
I don't know who's the blame? Either them or the IDIOTS that voted for them.
You don't know? Well, if ppl want to vote for an IDIOT—or, if they will in any case, vote for and IDIOT—IDIOTS will come a'swarmin' to fill the ballots with IDIOTIC candidates; and the nation will end up as she now is, with a full supply of corrupt politicians who prefer to be accorded the respect of modern day Patricians, . . . like Al Green, Chris Dodd, and many other such, . . . very much like: "We have found the enemy, and, the enemy is us.", . . .
I guess I'm one of those wild eyed Christians the congressman is talking about. However, even though I'm male, have white skin and mostly gray hair, folks sometimes call us wild eyed fundamentalists. However, fundamentalism is a doctrinal movement began in the early 1900's. I'm also a retired law enforcement officer. Therefore I swore to protect and defend the Constitution of the United States. So, you have nothing to fear from me. I believe in freedom of speech and assembly and will fight to defend your rights, including among other things, your freedom of the press, even when you are attacking my beliefs. I've never picked up a gun to shoot my Methodist and Catholic neighbors. I don't plant bombs on airplanes. I live at peace with "all men". I believe strongly in freedom of religion and I love my country. So investigate my radical religion if you will. I'll even use my investigative skills to help you. You won't find one Christian in ten thousand that are murdering maniacs. That is not what Christian fundamentalism is all about.
Really?
You lose this all the time, you know why?
You can't show where any of this was following the teachings of Christ.
I can show that your muslim friendly views are following the teaching of islam.
Anders Breivik is not a Christian. He is an open atheist, who does not belong to a Church, hates the Church of Norway, and is pro-gay marriage. He openly took inspiration from Muslim terrorists.
When you have read his manifesto, you can comment. Otherwise, do us a favor and keep your ignorance and sophmoric logic to yourself.
Where can you tie a single one of his actions to the teachings of Christ?
You don't as a muslim friendly kind of pakistani rat child, understand Christianity enough to make these calls. Fundamentalism for a Christian is one who follows the fundamentals of what Christ taught.
You don't get to make up alternate meanings for words that way.
Your a bit behind on the times, Brevik being a Christian has already been debunked, almost a whole year ago.
http://frontpagemag.com/2011/07/28/debunking-6-my…
And the thing about the "bath salt zombie" is a complete non-sequitor, and has nothing to do with what happened (I mean, a hallucigenic drunk coudn't have anything to do with it right? It must because of the symbolism of Communion!) and by once again bringing up he's Christian shows how far you'll go to slander Christians and how morally bankrupt you are. Have you no shame, sir?
Oh wee wee, you small little, tiny tiny man you.
Still so full of hate you can't stand it? So, you're at your work terminal again logged in and starting another day of propaganda. How do you manage it? Does the flask help that much?
"I never your religion caused the zombie to attack did I?"
No, not directly but WHY BRING IT UP IF YOU DON'T BELIEVE HIS BEING A CHRISTIAN HAS ANYTHING TO DO WITH IT?
It's like me, in response to people saying that black people are mostly peaceful constantly reminding people that convicted rapist Mike Tyson is black, and then saying "I never said his being black had anything to do with him being a rapist". Then repeating this over and over. People would rightly think I'm a racist. Just like how people rightly think you are an anti-Christian bigot.
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But because of "bath salts" and not because of his religion, so once again there is no logical reason to mention it as an example of Christian violence. You admit with your own words your irrational hatred and bigotry.
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No, you didn't. You didn't show he was acting as a result of the teachings of Christ.
You lose this every time, he acted contrary to Christianity, not because of it.
(unlike your darling islam)
No, it's not Apples to Oranges.
Yes, you're anti-religion (specifically anti-Christian) in a BAD WAY. If you merely disliked religion that would be one thing, but you are making false accusations against a group of people based on faulty logic (applying the actions of one to all and the core teaching which doesn't teach it). This is called BIGOTRY.
The question of Jesus' existance is a large one (and off-topic, since the subject is whether Jesus and christiantiy is violent, equal to Islam).
However, for one thing I have documents from eye witnesses from within a century of when Jesus lived, and they were willing to die for their testimony.
What eye witnesses? I can't wait to see this.
No one has the slightest physical evidence to support a historical Jesus; no artifacts, dwelling, works of carpentry, or self-written manuscripts. All claims about Jesus derive from writings of other people. There occurs no contemporary Roman record that shows Pontius Pilate executing a man named Jesus. Devastating to historians, there occurs not a single contemporary writing that mentions Jesus. All documents about Jesus came well after the life of the alleged Jesus from either: unknown authors, people who had never met an earthly Jesus, or from fraudulent, mythical or allegorical writings. Although one can argue that many of these writings come from fraud or interpolations.
There are two eye witnesses that wrote gospels, Matthew and John.
You just can't stand not being the bigot can you?
"Yeah a frontpage unbiased article. Try aqgain, the guy says he is a christian. "
You took the easy route, dismissing it as "biased" without actually refuting what it says. You try again. Refute the evidence.
Also, (I can't believe I have to once again say this), just because someone *says* their a Christian, doesn't make it so.
If you believe that jesus is the savior you are a christian. The article does not match up with manifesto. It was easliy dismissed and written by a chirstian <DIV style=”FONT-FAMILY: times new roman, new york, times, serif; FONT-SIZE: 12pt”> <DIV style=”FONT-FAMILY: times new roman, new york, times, serif; FONT-SIZE: 12pt”> <DIV dir=ltr> <DIV style=”BORDER-BOTTOM: #ccc 1px solid; BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0px; LINE-HEIGHT: 0; MARGIN: 5px 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 0px; PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; HEIGHT: 0px; FONT-SIZE: 0px; BORDER-TOP: #ccc 1px solid; BORDER-RIGHT: #ccc 1px solid; PADDING-TOP: 0px”></DIV>
But that doesn't AUTOMATICLY make it so his actions MATCH the teachings of Christianity. Every group has had bad people in them. It's really impossible to stop, so by your logic every group is equally evil because there is one isolated example of a bad person. You see how illogical you're being?
So, if I said I was a democrat or Republican or Librarian or socialist or kibertarian or darwinian evolutionists and went on a killing spree, you'd constantly use me as an example why that group is bad, even if those groups denounced me, and what I did did not follow their core beliefs? See, this is the HUGE logical roadblock in your way.
No, just the ones that always agree with muslim talking points and insults.
You know, like you and your constant advocacy for violence and the calls for jihad against Christians.
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The whole town needs locked in the church and the church set on fire. IMO
You still can't quote the entire thing, can you?
You said this.
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"The whole town needs locked in the church and the church set on fire. IMO"
So, the next time you advocated mindless violence in your muslim friendly way I asked it what you wanted to do was as pretty as a burning church? (Sarcasm)
And you never answered because you were torn over which was prettier in your mind. How sad, you're just the hate filled bigot.
You speak of islam.
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Why, do you think you rubbed some off on me?
I better go wash. You are of course still dripping with hate and bigotry.
Why not go find a story where you can call Israel child killers again?
Try again? Sure, can you show he used a single teaching of Christ in his life?
It's true that Christian doctrine does not preach violence. In that, it is an improvement over Islam. But the unpleasant reality remains that Christians themselves all too often have committed acts of violence — and rationalized these acts on explicitly Christian grounds. Yes, the big, bad Christianity of the Inquisition and numerous witch trials (and not just in Salem, Mass. — read your history) is gone. But we owe this happy turn of events primarily to the very "secularists" whom today's traditionalist Christians, for the most part, continue to revile.
And none of that was done due to the teachings of Christ.
They were done in spite of it, and are examples of what a failed Christian looks like, not a successful one.
And islam?
9:14 Fight them! Allah will chastise them at your hands, and He will lay them low and give you victory over them, and He will heal the breasts of folk who are believers.
That's islam when it's a success.
Don't even try comparing the two religions, they don't compare.
If course not. Even you know better than that. Did you have to drain the little flask before you spit that one out again?
Unfortunately, it's not gone.
http://www.veoh.com/watch/v196340339cSNnb35?h1=Sa…
Just, for the most part, in America. In the rest of the world the Christian's violence continues.
You silly pagans. Where does it teach that in Christ's teachings?
This doesn't happen because he was a successful Christian. That's only with islam.
Jesus loves you Roger, but everyone else thinks you are a f u ck i n g a s s hole.
If they're the crowd you hang with, I'm glad.
Yes, he's here dropping poo.
And I would expect a comment like that from a troll.
It's amazing how wee wee's parallel profiles always reach for the bottom and amaze people at how quickly they reach it.
You tired of the wee wee/exposed goat pen already?
No thanks. Women are more my style.
There is something about a lady who is consenting of her own free will without any force or beatings involved like sharia has.
You're entitled to his opinion.
When I reduced him to screaming about his sex toy goats I know who won this round, again.
He just can't quite grasp how badly he's beaten day in and day out. Why they provide him with a work terminal produce profiles like yours, I just don't know.
I never said it was Christ teachings, it is the churches teachings. Unfortunately most "Christians" follow the church, not Christ, and that has led to most of the religious violence of the last 1900 years. Add in the Muslims Jihads, and the Jewish holy wars and there is no wonder the world has been in turmoil for so long.
Hello, as a pagan you don't understand what Christianity is about.
And if they follow man's teachings of Christ's… why are they Christians? You can put a BMW label on an old VW but it doesn't make it any more a BMW.
And before the monotheistic religions there were blood human sacrifices. No wonder the world was in turmoil so long and so desperate for alternative religions.
And can you show he followed a single teaching of Christ?
Please, try and keep up.
You know this guy didn't follow the ideas and values that Christ taught. So don't blame a religion he didn't follow for what he did.
You just like to take every single chance to insult and attack Christianity.
So muslim friendly of you…..
Wee wee, we know you're a small hate filled bigot and all. But what exactly is your quota for the day? Just how many comments do you have to crank out to keep that work terminal?
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Yes, but he understood the big words.
Do you know how stupid you sound,Jesusinator? I don't know,but in my opinion you sound very stupid.
More than yours, and as an added bonus it makes sense.
Hahahahahahahahaha….
Oh wee wee, you small little man, you make this way to easy.
So, what is your quota for snarky comments today?
So you do quite openly admit your a BIGOT then? Why mention he was a Christian then if it has no effect on what he did? Why even bring up the case at all when someone says something about christians not being violent if it has nothing do with Christianity? Why repeat the completely misrepresentation of a Christian symbolism ("Canabalism!" ha!) then unless you are a bigot and proud of it?
He's a bigot and proud of it. You nailed it.
It's like someone saying "people who listen to the Beatles are peaceful" me saying "Charles Manson" and then "I know liking the Beatles has nothing to do with Manson's murders, but Helter Skelter did predict a coming race war". Wouldn't you rightly think I might have a severe bias against the Beatles since I'm making a connecting I'm also in the same breath admitting is nonsensical, and misrepresenting a belief?
"played first-person shooter videogames such as World of Warcraft"
Which proves that the reporter didn't do any research, just rehashed old reports. "World of Warcraft" isn't a first person shooter. Firstly it is a third person perspective which is far removed from first person as far as the depth of immersion. Secondly it isn't a shooter, it is sword and sorcery, which wouldn't translate well into taking an automatic weapon and killing children.
I love it when the media tries to imply a connection between video games and a persons real world actions. If this connection were true then we would be in real trouble, as WoW is the most popular video game in the world with over 12 million subscribers. That would give new meaning to geek wars.
Scumm, racist pig.
Are you going to call for something loving and tolerant like locking another town full of Christians to be locked in a building and burned to death?
You are such a hate filled muslim friendly troll.
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The whole town needs locked in the church and the church set on fire. IMO
hey! calling that troll a pig is an insult to pigs!
And, no. I think, answering that question not to be a fair use of time: 1) I'm just not seeing many reports of Christians hacking the hands and heads of their own family members; 2) Christians don't have a city such as "Bahrain, where Allah cannot see.", and where their vacation time and money is spent in performance of the most abominable sensual gratification possible, thus giving the lie to otherwise ostensible religious pretenses.
And insofar as Al Green's inability to ask, answer, or even divine the logic of discussion as determinative of a valid question may be of interest, I would say that, as per my comment above, on an IDIOT electorate, I think that, he's simply another part of the picture of the USA in our times, . . .
More and more bizarre people seem to get elected to Congress. Of course, jeremy wright is a christian minister who does deliver a lot of hate speech in his sermons. Others, such as al sharpton and jesse jackson, are opportunists who sponge off of the black community. All of them consistently make anti-semitic remarks and are supportive of the so-called poor and oppressed palestinian people who also hate Jews and dedicate their lives to murdering defenseless civilians. Perhaps Representative Green really had these people in mind and simply became confused about gender, religious doctrine, and race.
I guess if there were enough money for it, I'd support an across-the-board inquiry on "the entirety of radicalism." I'm curious as to where American radicalism comes from. How many Spartacists are there for each KKKer?
I bet (Al Green – D) would not be on the panel.
We Christians don't need a crime, right? We just cause deadly harm out of our whims, don't we?
^ Doesn't understand sarcasm
muslim friendly trolls with a pretense at being Americans normally don't. It's a great way of spotting them.
When I used to be a leftist, I would hear conversatons musing about how the right and the Christians did certain things, things which were imagined out of whole cloth. They were convinced of very odd ideas indeed, for instance, that we who attend church have closets full of rifles. I remember my leftist folks trying to see whether they should go live in the hills because the govt might be coming to get them.
Liberalism truly is a mental disorder.
Did you ever watch the movie North Dallas Forty? There is a hunting scene in that movie, with armed hunters sitting on the front of a car driving along a dirt road, shooting randomly and drinking heavily from liquor bottles. That told me all I needed to know (as if I didn't know already) about how what much of the world, including but not limited to Hollywood, believes about white men of a typically conservative bent.
Silly commies, didn't they realize those hills would already have been full of Cristians with guns?
The thought of Christians in the hills with guns was not here yet. It had not occurred to anyone.
congressman needs to shut his ignorant jaws
this guy is an idiot just like sharpton and his crew and the city councilman in dallas that wanted apoligies for some one saying black holes like the ones in space, black holes are in these guys heads, they are some of the probs we have in this country, idiots friggin idiots!
he has muslim tendencies and is just trying to protect his muslim brotherhood brothers
Once again,Jesusinator makes a weak argument concerning Anders Breivik. The man was a sick,pathetic loon who should be locked away forever. His manifesto strengthens that case. When are you going to give it up and go somewhere else?
He didn't live the teachings of Christ, words are cheap.
You're not the standard for my conduct.
So, isn't there some new talking points you need to study while you hit the little flask?
Does every colored member of Congress think and act like that? Yes they do. Each of them speaks out as if they won’t face any consequences whatsoever. They say the most idiotic crap. I’m glad I don’t live in a district with people that voted this trash and others like him into office.
West does not!
Oh, he's African American? I just don't pay attention to skin color.
Waste your breath Washington!!
Thank GOD that I am listed as a radical for the Ruth instead of being labeled a satanic sympathizer to a hate filled womanizing child raping cult that is descended from the bastard stepchild of a slave woman!!!’
Who said "I have become victorious through terror"?
Nope, it wasn't Jesus.
Of course Jesus was historically real.
You just reject all facts and evidence that supports it because you're a hate filled bigot.
Have I mentioned that before?
No, they are not.
Your comments on evolution are. Your comments on everything are.
So, does that mean you're going to shut up and crawl back under a bridge someplace?
Yes they are. I proved it.
No, not according to your own standards.
You were not there, and also you're biased. So you have no credibility and shouldn't be commenting.
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You weren't there yet you keep talking as if you know.
And John and Matthew were there and they DID know.
How does it feel to be owned?
Yes, yes, let's indeed investigate that blue-eyed blonde radical; Jihad Jane!!
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Democracy is what you make of it. GIGO
you never know that those christian white women might be plotting, they might fly an airplane into a building and kill thousands of innocent people, has any one ever been to a large Muslim country where the smell of hash was not enough to knock you down?
Thugs like Al Green should leave the country and move to the Middle East where he can't bother anyone.
what is someone called on the hearing of the radical black panthers, oh yea right they already have and holder and obummer protected them
how many times have i gotta tell you idiots the whole plan is to make the United States a Muslim nation, and sooner or latter it will be accomplished as soon as the push is on for blacks to convert to Muslim. and that is gonna happen, think about it blacks a r 98 percent democrap . they are a bunch of sheep it will be nothing to get 93 percent of them to be Muslims and following Islamocrap
and they wonder why some of us worry about islamophobia
then they will start really murdering whites
"a Muslim radical goes to the root teachings of Islam; a Christian radical goes to the root teachings of Christianity"
Yes. Mother Teresa is a Christian radical.
"how is that a blue-eyed, blonde-haired, white female in the United States of America can become radicalized to the point of wanting to do harm to this country?" Because she wouldn't you idiot. It is the dark eyed, black haired , radicalized Islamists that want to destroy America. Now just what about that, don't you understand?
You're wrong of course, but you always are.
You know (even if you want to pretend and ignore it) that Christians would want a fair trial and to have the justice system play out in accordance with the rule of law.
I bet you're way too stupid to know you're out of your league with your childish, hateful comments – get lost you spiteful troll.
First, a fair trial. Then we hang him.
First, a fair trial. Then we hang him.
Actually, voting him into obscurity will suffice.
you say: "blah blah blah …"
I say: your Dear Leader will lose the election in November. Suck on it. Hold your breath. Stay that way. Turn purple.
Good.
Yes, "Fair is fair". Looking at a religion that is ACTUALLY calling for the killing, maiming and subjugating of others should be the priority rather than one that does not. Oh, you mean disregarding reality and needlessly acting as though "radicalized Christians" are a threat equal to "radical muslims?"
To quote someone (I don't remember who (rolls eyes) ): "Still a hate-filled bigot"
He owned you.
What he said is true, and you know it.
You really can't keep up, can you?
The hate blinds you.
You got confused again?
Don't they let you bring a favorite crayon set and coloring book for times like that?
^Doesn't understand what "equality" means
You don't actually show how Christians are a threat equal to Islamic supremiscists, thus that doesn't apear to matter as part of your equation of "equality".
So, using your definition of "equality" when someone is being tried for a crime, everyone in his neighborhood should be tried too, even though there is no reason to suspect them of a crime? fair is fair, right? Hmm. Your "equality" sounds an awful lot like fascism to me.
Hmm. Interesting I see no proof in that post.
Really? Islamic Supremiscists have launched 19,114 attacks since 9/11. How has terrorism by Christians come even close to that? You really are a bigot.
Uh, fightting != attacking. Someone can fight to defend themselves. You need to show how Christianity is actively fighting (attacking) others, and still how that fits in with what Christ taught.
Oh. Of course, if your counting each and every separate victim, then the number is MUCH MUCH higher for Muslim attacks. (Was that the "lame excuse"?).
If you really want to compare numbers it's going to take me a while to do. I count around 3,092 dead and 6,877 injured so far.
Ok, done. My count is 103,407 dead and 168,342 injured.
Now your task is to show how Christians have attacked civilians (you can't use the US army and say "the US is a Christian nation as one Muslim did, you have to show how the individuals were Christians)
Oh, and my source used http://www.thereligionofpeace.com
He'll be back tomorrow at the start of his troll shift.
Blah blah blah.
No one realizes that you're just a hate filled bigot that blathers and tries to blame everything on Christianity. …..
No, that's not right. We all realize.
You have show christ existed before you can claim he "taught" anything.
He did exist and you've been shown that.
You just want to ignore everything you've been shown. You want to circle back and begin back at the start of your talking points as if no one has ever gone over this and educated you over and over.
What a hate filled bigot.
Oh look, you still are blinded by hate and ignore islam.
sorry, I didn't mention, since I'm only pulling numbers from after 9/11, you can only use numbers that far back as well. I may be able to later get numbers of terror attacks before then, but for now, please limit yourself to from 9/11/2001 to today.
You silly silly muslim friendly kind of bigot you.
Hundreds of times you have been ask to connect those to the teachings of Christ.
You know, the guy that Christians follow. You can't, you know you can't.
But the hate drives you, and you keep parroting the same words regardless of reason.
Yeah, you're not taking verses completely out of context here!
http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/Pages/Bible-Qur…
We don't live in Israel, thus these laws of Israel do not apply.
Pretty sure christ and god are the same being according to your book of horrors <DIV style=”FONT-FAMILY: times new roman, new york, times, serif; FONT-SIZE: 12pt”> <DIV style=”FONT-FAMILY: times new roman, new york, times, serif; FONT-SIZE: 12pt”> <DIV dir=ltr> <DIV style=”BORDER-BOTTOM: #ccc 1px solid; BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0px; LINE-HEIGHT: 0; MARGIN: 5px 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 0px; PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; HEIGHT: 0px; FONT-SIZE: 0px; BORDER-TOP: #ccc 1px solid; BORDER-RIGHT: #ccc 1px solid; PADDING-TOP: 0px”></DIV>
Pretty sure you don't have a clue about it.
So, why are you just blathering away? Are you struggling to make your quota of comments?
Pretty sure I know more than you. <DIV style=”FONT-FAMILY: times new roman, new york, times, serif; FONT-SIZE: 12pt”> <DIV style=”FONT-FAMILY: times new roman, new york, times, serif; FONT-SIZE: 12pt”> <DIV dir=ltr> <DIV style=”BORDER-BOTTOM: #ccc 1px solid; BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0px; LINE-HEIGHT: 0; MARGIN: 5px 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 0px; PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; HEIGHT: 0px; FONT-SIZE: 0px; BORDER-TOP: #ccc 1px solid; BORDER-RIGHT: #ccc 1px solid; PADDING-TOP: 0px”></DIV>
So these versus are not the root of christianity? Try again OTcame BEFORE the NT <DIV style=”FONT-FAMILY: times new roman, new york, times, serif; FONT-SIZE: 12pt”> <DIV style=”FONT-FAMILY: times new roman, new york, times, serif; FONT-SIZE: 12pt”> <DIV dir=ltr> <DIV style=”BORDER-BOTTOM: #ccc 1px solid; BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0px; LINE-HEIGHT: 0; MARGIN: 5px 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 0px; PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; HEIGHT: 0px; FONT-SIZE: 0px; BORDER-TOP: #ccc 1px solid; BORDER-RIGHT: #ccc 1px solid; PADDING-TOP: 0px”></DIV>
Pretty sure you don't have a clue about it.
Wee wee, dozens of people in hundreds and hundreds of comments have explained this to you.
You pretend you know more about things than me? Ha!
You only know your hate, and your talking points.
The root of Christianity is the teachings of the savior Jesus of Nazareth. Not in a church membership or attendance, not in a lie claiming a relationship. It's a relationship that is proven by a changed heart.
Your heart? Blinded by your hate.
Another fallacy of assumptions. Just because it came before, doesn't mean it's considered as still being active.
The articles of confederation are the root of American law, does that mean it is still active? No.
The verses even describe the scope (targeting specific peoples, or apply to "In Isreal") but in your bigotry you're taking the verses to mean what they don't say, because to you there is no such thing as truth,and any interpretation is true. As I've said, this is the path of utter madness, means anything can be read as a call for genocide, and reduces arguments to dadaism.
As Roger said, this has been explained hundreds of times before, and that you keep repeating this, without actually answering the objections to this logic (showing how it is indeed in context) shows your dishonesty.
You don't know enough about christianity to comment on it. The heaven and earth HAVE NOT PASSED away therfore the law is still valid according to the bible. Which really dosen't mean s hit because the bible was wrote by men to make conformist sheep. If you have the awareness level of a snail, and your thinking is mired in shame and guilt (with perhaps a twist of drug abuse or suicidal thinking), then subscribing to a religion can help you climb to a higher level of awareness. Your mindset, however, still remains incredibly dysfunctional; you’ve merely swapped one form of erroneous thinking for another <DIV style=”FONT-FAMILY: times new roman, new york, times, serif; FONT-SIZE: 12pt”> <DIV style=”FONT-FAMILY: times new roman, new york, times, serif; FONT-SIZE: 12pt”> <DIV dir=ltr> <DIV style=”BORDER-BOTTOM: #ccc 1px solid; BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0px; LINE-HEIGHT: 0; MARGIN: 5px 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 0px; PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; HEIGHT: 0px; FONT-SIZE: 0px; BORDER-TOP: #ccc 1px solid; BORDER-RIGHT: #ccc 1px solid; PADDING-TOP: 0px”></DIV>
Of all the hundreds of times I've used that line on you.
Is it now one of the approved troll comments?
And the ten commandments are still valid, no murder, no stealing….
And all these hate filled comments only prove you're a bigot.
Ha! Now I'm (A Christian who daily reads his bible) being told to shut up by a non-Christian (who keeps repeating erronious out of context passages and bigoted statements against Christians) because I supposedly don't enough about Christianity to comment on it!
How dare I defend my beliefs against slanders!
Says the non-Christian who keeps repeating the same logical fallacies (scope that has ceased, I guess to Jesusinator, the articles of confederation ARE still in effect) without explaining how they are not fallacies (how the scope is still in effect today, even though the CONTEXT of mentioning places (Isreal) and peoples (horites, etc.) indicates otherwise). I'm the one with "erroneous thinking!" Ha!
Jesusinator,
Yes, the Bible is loaded with violence, including the NT, albeit, no Jews or Christians, or Shinto are currently massacring kaffir/infidel in the name of faith. We are well past that waste, but Muslims are not.
Of course I got that line from the Master Troll Roger Russel <DIV style=”FONT-FAMILY: times new roman, new york, times, serif; FONT-SIZE: 12pt”> <DIV style=”FONT-FAMILY: times new roman, new york, times, serif; FONT-SIZE: 12pt”> <DIV dir=ltr> <DIV style=”BORDER-BOTTOM: #ccc 1px solid; BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0px; LINE-HEIGHT: 0; MARGIN: 5px 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 0px; PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; HEIGHT: 0px; FONT-SIZE: 0px; BORDER-TOP: #ccc 1px solid; BORDER-RIGHT: #ccc 1px solid; PADDING-TOP: 0px”></DIV>
And the things you don't know about, you still use the lies anyhow.
Too bad you aren't half as smart as you pretend to be.
I have studied your religion for years. <DIV style=”FONT-FAMILY: times new roman, new york, times, serif; FONT-SIZE: 12pt”> <DIV style=”FONT-FAMILY: times new roman, new york, times, serif; FONT-SIZE: 12pt”> <DIV dir=ltr> <DIV style=”BORDER-BOTTOM: #ccc 1px solid; BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0px; LINE-HEIGHT: 0; MARGIN: 5px 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 0px; PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; HEIGHT: 0px; FONT-SIZE: 0px; BORDER-TOP: #ccc 1px solid; BORDER-RIGHT: #ccc 1px solid; PADDING-TOP: 0px”></DIV>
Oh, I see. So it only matters how many have been killed since 9/11. All other deaths from religon before that don't matter. Hypocrite <DIV style=”FONT-FAMILY: times new roman, new york, times, serif; FONT-SIZE: 12pt”> <DIV style=”FONT-FAMILY: times new roman, new york, times, serif; FONT-SIZE: 12pt”> <DIV dir=ltr> <DIV style=”BORDER-BOTTOM: #ccc 1px solid; BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0px; LINE-HEIGHT: 0; MARGIN: 5px 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 0px; PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; HEIGHT: 0px; FONT-SIZE: 0px; BORDER-TOP: #ccc 1px solid; BORDER-RIGHT: #ccc 1px solid; PADDING-TOP: 0px”></DIV>
Do you trouble reading?
I didn't say it didn't matter. I said I don't have numbers on my end from before then, so it would be unfair for you to include numbers from before that period and not me. I also said I'd try to find numbers from before then, but for now to limit yourself to after 9/11. I also apologized for not mentioning this before.
And yet you're still making basic logical fallacies (refuses to show how the scope of certain verses is actually larger than what the context indicates, ), so that means you didn't learn much.
You should try studying basic logic next.
“Do you trouble reading” Do you? <DIV style=”FONT-FAMILY: times new roman, new york, times, serif; FONT-SIZE: 12pt”> <DIV style=”FONT-FAMILY: times new roman, new york, times, serif; FONT-SIZE: 12pt”> <DIV dir=ltr> <DIV style=”BORDER-BOTTOM: #ccc 1px solid; BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0px; LINE-HEIGHT: 0; MARGIN: 5px 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 0px; PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; HEIGHT: 0px; FONT-SIZE: 0px; BORDER-TOP: #ccc 1px solid; BORDER-RIGHT: #ccc 1px solid; PADDING-TOP: 0px”></DIV>
“And yet you're still making basic logical fallacies” Um I'mnot the one who thinks a guy lives in the clouds and human road dinosaurs <DIV style=”FONT-FAMILY: times new roman, new york, times, serif; FONT-SIZE: 12pt”> <DIV style=”FONT-FAMILY: times new roman, new york, times, serif; FONT-SIZE: 12pt”> <DIV dir=ltr> <DIV style=”BORDER-BOTTOM: #ccc 1px solid; BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0px; LINE-HEIGHT: 0; MARGIN: 5px 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 0px; PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; HEIGHT: 0px; FONT-SIZE: 0px; BORDER-TOP: #ccc 1px solid; BORDER-RIGHT: #ccc 1px solid; PADDING-TOP: 0px”></DIV>
Ad honim.Non sequitor. You don't actually attack my arguments and show how your arguments are not illogical, but attack me.
If you were honest, you wouldn't need to resort to logical fallacies.
Why do you keep posting:
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It is not even a link.
Yes, yes. take the easy route of ad honim and attack my typo instead of looking at the point, that you (I think intentionally) misread what I think I pretty clearly said to imply I want to ignore deaths by religious people before 9/11, and called me a hypocrite.
I think you owe me an apology.
Back to abbreviations so you can focus on something besides your parallel profile.
Beacause your arguments don't hold up to historical fact. Only christian approved talking points. Have you ever wondered why religious teachings are invariably mysterious, confusing, and internally incongruent? This is no accident by the way — it’s quite intentional. <DIV style=”FONT-FAMILY: times new roman, new york, times, serif; FONT-SIZE: 12pt”> <DIV style=”FONT-FAMILY: times new roman, new york, times, serif; FONT-SIZE: 12pt”> <DIV dir=ltr> <DIV style=”BORDER-BOTTOM: #ccc 1px solid; BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0px; LINE-HEIGHT: 0; MARGIN: 5px 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 0px; PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; HEIGHT: 0px; FONT-SIZE: 0px; BORDER-TOP: #ccc 1px solid; BORDER-RIGHT: #ccc 1px solid; PADDING-TOP: 0px”></DIV>
waitwaitwait.
You don't actually answer my arguments with facts (and resort to ad honim), because my arguments don't stand up to facts (which you don't show and instead use ad honim) ?
Wow!
You had fun with him, he'll be back at work tomorrow.
Unless a truck runs him over tonight.
Do you still think it's cartoon porn?
Really?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DkhWfabSFkQ
Durka durka…. you're probably busy with those sexy goats of yours.
You really ought to try willing women. Most liberal cities that costs about $10.
Jesusless,
You do not contribute to the thread and do continuously use illogical fallacies. You appear to try to utilize academic language, but use you look a fool because you incorrectly use the words. I teach English, and see you making several of the same errors as my students. Frankly, you might want to take a philosophy class in logic for a better understanding.
A Deist
Really? You don't get out much do you? http://topdocumentaryfilms.com/return-to-africas-witch-children/ <DIV style=”FONT-FAMILY: times new roman, new york, times, serif; FONT-SIZE: 12pt”> <DIV style=”FONT-FAMILY: times new roman, new york, times, serif; FONT-SIZE: 12pt”> <DIV dir=ltr> <DIV style=”BORDER-BOTTOM: #ccc 1px solid; BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0px; LINE-HEIGHT: 0; MARGIN: 5px 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 0px; PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; HEIGHT: 0px; FONT-SIZE: 0px; BORDER-TOP: #ccc 1px solid; BORDER-RIGHT: #ccc 1px solid; PADDING-TOP: 0px”></DIV>
Really, you muslims don't get out much do you?
Too busy out counting your sex goats again today? Should I joke about stealing them and watch you do the muslim meltdown again? That was so funny, the way you went to pieces.
First, there are few incidents of fundamentalist Christians who have murdered in the name of faith, I can think of 3. There are daily reports of Muslims murdering Muslims and other people in the name of Islam. This is condoned by the Qu'ran.
Yes, the Bible has many incidents of violence as you claim, but few of Christianity and Judaism are acting on these texts, and those who do are reviled by their brethren. In contrast Muslims name parks, building and streets to honor terrorists who have murdered men, women and children. The celebrate and cheer after a successful terrorist attack.
I must professionally interact with a minimum of 150 15-17 year old teens 9 months a year, and a minimum of 5 peers daily, 20 peers weekly during department meetings, and 200+ peers during monthly staff meetings, and 5 supervisors during observations. This is only at work.
Odds are I have traveled far more extensively and deal with a far more pluralistic society than you.
You owe him an apology, but the handlers at your office won't allow you to give it.
You sound so cranky today, no luck with your sexy goats last night?
That's one long rambling sentence saying nothing.
Do people a favor and don't pretend you have anything to add.
So, wee is running his parallel profile again. Did he realize how badly he is compromised? All these months or pretending are down the drain now.
All over some goats….
Yes you do. You mis-read my post to imply I don't care about deaths before 9/11 by religious people, when I CLEARLY said said it was because I don't CURRENTLY have numbers before then (and so would be unfair for one person to use numbers before then, and not the other).
Your just upset because I'm not letting you play out of bounds.
Good morning, did you get off your prayer rug already?
Why do you think wee deserves good manners?
Is he ashamed to come out and play? Or is he just too tired between his flask and the darling goats?
Actually, it's anything the writer wants, if it's for emphasis.
You kneel before everyone.
That's the problem. Wee's hatred blinds him. He doesn't see just how badly he actually does.
You crack yourself up all the time wee.
What happened, were you hitting the flask too hard and forget the new profile information you used for this parallel profile? Is that why you're back to the guest setting today?
Wrong again, detective. Don't quit your day job. Oh, that's right, you don't have one.
My my, and it only took 10 minutes to dig it back out and use again.
Wee wee, you are slipping. How much of that flask were you sucking on yesterday? You must really care about those goats.
That means wee wee can't pretend at this point to be anything other than a paid troll so you're starting a new persona to work around that?
You know, if wee wee is going to create another fake profile why not do it right?
You should claim veteran status with several medals (that law was tossed) and make at least 6 figure income with plenty of global travel.
Did I leave any of the usual lies out?
Of course not, and in former lives I was Gengis Khan and Mother Theresa.
(sarcasm)
Like they did at the Jewish cultural center in Seattle?
I don't trust liars and even when I visit Oregon I'd prefer sane people.
Wee wee isn't my type.
You're funny, it's not porn.
Naked goats aren't something to get exited about either, unless you want to settle for them over women.
No I don't.? You purposely did not get them because the death toll done by Christians throughout history is in the billions. <DIV style=”FONT-FAMILY: times new roman, new york, times, serif; FONT-SIZE: 12pt”> <DIV style=”FONT-FAMILY: times new roman, new york, times, serif; FONT-SIZE: 12pt”> <DIV dir=ltr> <DIV style=”BORDER-BOTTOM: #ccc 1px solid; BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0px; LINE-HEIGHT: 0; MARGIN: 5px 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 0px; PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; HEIGHT: 0px; FONT-SIZE: 0px; BORDER-TOP: #ccc 1px solid; BORDER-RIGHT: #ccc 1px solid; PADDING-TOP: 0px”></DIV>
Oh look you sobered up enough to post some more.
How nice for you. Did the goats also need a break?
Oh yes, it must have been intentional! Even though the source for the original batch of numbers I gave (that I even pointed to) doesn't include them. It must have been just intentional because deep down I don't care about people who died before 2011! Your reaching.
You know, you are the kind of muslim that gives inbreeding a bad name.
Yawn…..
He doesn't care about facts. He doesn't care about real debate. He is here simply to irritate and distract and insult.
The word troll is pretty apt.
Are you tired of being stupid all day?
Why would I? Even here you're only moderately even worth answering.
Silly muslim.
Why are you always so focused on my crotch?
I'm not interested.
You come and comment to contaminate the sites you post at.They remove that contamination.I don't have to dignify you with a comment, since you'r dealt with.
Not wrong.You can come to your own conclusions however flawed. But that doesn't change the facts.
I'm calling you a liar.
We know you're a liar.Now I know you're also boring.
No one is ever scared of you. Distastefully amused at best.And when it comes to your quotes, they hold no credibility.
Of course not.Since you don't know anyone reasonable, you don't have a clue that reasonable people often disagree. So what?And you, you are the floater that needed a second flush.
Why do you think you can ignore the past and act like the horror christians inflicted on people is ok because you have a NT?If islam becomes the top brainwashing cult in the world like the christians are now Ibet they will have one to.
I could do that if my stalker would leave me alone.I really could care less about grammar on a message bord filled with anti-American bigots.
It is "board" not bord dolt!
I am a strong patriot.
Sure you are
You sound tired and cranky. Did the goats keep you up late?
You only want me to leave you alone so you can go back to attacking Christianity and Jewish values.
And once again you show that you ignore the teachings of Christ that modern Christians follow.
It's really so muslim friendly the way you do that.
But if you want to really focus on the issues you keep bringing up, then you should have more links to Al Jazeera. http://www.aljazeera.com/news/middleeast/2012/06/…
This is why your rants and shrill attacks ring hollow.
“And once again you show that you ignore the teachings of Christ that modern Christians follow”You don't fit in that category. You admitted to stealing last week
Christians don't have to be perfect. It's a huge difference we have with islam that has to earn paradise. We have Christ's perfection.
So, you don't get to declare whether I'm a Christian or not. Again a difference with islam. You know that in sharia you could plant a car bomb outside my mosque because we're not following the will of allah enough.
In the western cultures we have more tolerance than that.
You sure are muslim friendly the way you think.
Yeah and hitler was not a perfect christian
And you are not exactly a perfect muslim.
You conveniently overlook Mark 8:38.
You don't know enough about my religion to tell anyone what standards they need to keep.
Thats because I'm not one at all
Let's see now…
You have muslim friendly postions.
Muslim friendly hates.
Muslim style advocacy of violence on certain groups.
And of course I won't mention the goats.
Why not just admit there is more to this than you want to let on? Or are you supposed to stay in the shadows about how you hate the state of Israel?