It would be interesting to look at the homicide rate for Obama voters and Romney voters and that is doable on a community level. But for the moment let’s take a look at the big picture. As discussed in my previous article, “America Doesn’t Have a Gun Problem, It Has a Gang Problem“, gun violence is concentrated in urban areas where most victims and shooters have existing criminal records.
Not only is gang violence dramatically higher in cities compared to surrounding areas, but 60 percent of U.S. firearm homicides happen in the 62 cities of the country’s 50 largest metro areas.
In the 2012 election, Obama won 70% of the vote in cities. He won the plurality of votes in every major city with the exception of Jacksonville and Salt Lake City. In some of the biggest cities he won 85% of the votes.
These are the cities where gun violence rates are the highest in the country. Often, the higher the gun violence rates, the bigger the margin of victory for Obama, as documented in my article, America Doesn’t Have a Gun Problem, It Has a Gang Problem above.
The 50 MSAs had a combined firearms homicide rate (in 2006-2007) of 17,000. The 62 cities in them accounted for 9,800 of that. That’s out of a total of 25,423 firearm homicides nationwide.
How out of whack are these numbers?
“Residents of these MSAs represented 54% of the U.S. population during 2006–2007, but accounted for 67% of firearm homicides.”
Those are 5-6 year old numbers. They are likely to be worse now as many cities are reporting spikes in their homicide rate. And the numbers for the cities are even worse than for the MSAs. “Central cities frequently had firearm homicide rates at least twice as high as those for their MSAs,”
It’s quite clear that America does not have a gun violence problem. Obamerica does.
If Obama wants to deal with gun violence, he will have to deal with the social problems of his own voting base.
"It would be interesting to look at the homicide rate for Obama voters and Romney voters and that is doable on a community level. But for the moment let’s take a look at the big picture."
Leftists will then claim that Romney supporters are murdering them.
"If Obama wants to deal with gun violence, he will have to deal with the social problems of his own voting base."
He is, and his answer is red sharia…whatever that really is.
Red Sharia.
I like that.
I remember reading in one or more books that the "Left" is an insidious thing that lures people into supporting it with the permissiveness (sex, drugs, etc), and then when it's got full and complete confidence of control, it will crack down like a mofo totalitarian.
Get real. The overwhelming reason for the high correlation between violent crime and Obama support is race. "Liberalism" doesn't commit murders; blacks do. Portland and Seattle are as liberal as any city in the U.S., yet their murder rates are very low. Do I have to dwell upon the obvious? They're predominantly white.
The above photo, oddly enough, says a lot more than the article. Blacks are extremely aggressive. I've dealt with that reality many times first-hand. And they vote for their own kind — always. Support for Obama in the 2008 and 2012 elections each time was at least 95 percent.
You racist idiot!
Obama's support comes from the MAJORITY (fool, that means over half) of the American voting public. Period. This includes people from all races and backgrounds. Black Americans make up 8% of the American public. A very small fraction of that 8% are involved in criminal activity.
If you want to make the statement that there is a high rate of crime among black Americans relative to other groups, you're right. If you want to say that the vast majority of black Americans voted for Obama, you're right. But to attempt, therefore, to draw some link between Obama's "support" and criminal activity is so stupid and racist as to be laughable. As if he owes his presidency to criminals!
This whole thing reads like a caricature of the right wing by the left! Is this out of the Onion?
""Liberalism" doesn't commit murders; blacks do."
Leftist rhetoric and policies cultivate laziness and crime. Class warfare leads to some classes being influenced more than others. Criminals commit crimes, and there are many factors but ultimately the individual is responsible.
DNA or racial theory is not a root cause of criminal behavior associated with demographic groups. It's culture.
"The above photo, oddly enough, says a lot more than the article."
It says that gang culture is feted by leftists.
Greenfield, you're a racist coward who will scream "anti-Semite!" at the drop of a hat, then bait your white bread audience with this jaw droppingly racist piece of garbage. Did we just break the time-space continuum and wake up in '57 Alabama?
I don't think they had the internet in '57 Alabama. Unless you mean 2057.
"…white bread audience with this jaw droppingly racist piece of garbage."
What makes you think his audience is white? What makes you think the gangs are representative of some "other" race?
PS – Some gang members are "white."
Let's put it this way – those who value liberty based freedoms are more likely to live in "redder" states, as opposed to blue ones. This is not always the case, but for the most part it is true.
That being said, it shouldn't be a surprise that the gimme gimme crowd is also more prone to violence. For when they can't get what they want from "Uncle Sam", then what else is a leftist to do? Conversely, proving that legal gun owners (in the "redder" stats) don't use their guns for violent means, as opposed to those who will grab their guns, regardless of the law!
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Community Organizers are so useless, they don't even tackle actual issues. All they do is support the Democrat Machine. Certainly they would never touch the issue of gangs with a ten foot pole, not with their hug-a-thug mentality.
So it's no surprise, really, that Obama came from thence and does nothing about said issues. While he hypocritically whines about people that cling to their "god and guns", he ignores the worst "gun-clingers" of all: gang bangers.
Wow , this must mean that gun murderers all voted for Obama huh ?
Democrats push for Felon Voting for a reason.
Every single stinking one of them.
Didn't you know the VAST majority of the Prison Population self-identifies politically (like 80+%) as Democrat?
No Slider, it's even MORE menacing than that: not only do gun murders all vote for Obama, a lot of them are scary black men (see the picture above) and that means that this is Obama's "base."
Welcome to the wonderful world of Daniel Greenfield…
"Wow , this must mean that gun murderers all voted for Obama huh ?"
Odds are, yes. Most criminals registered to vote are loyal Democratic Party members. Is this really news to you?
Stinky's (bo) understands how dangerous it is to be a felon when you have an armed society. They have to steal a living just like him, and don't want to be shot at (who does?) while working. In order to keep their support, he needs to get the guns away from people that wouldn't be voting for democrats anyway. It's the violent felon version of card check for the unions. Stinks is out to save lives…..not of law abiding people, he has no use for them….but instead for his core constituents.
Another hateful, deceitful, shameful – and now racist – hit job by Greenfield. And it's so weak, but when you're preaching to the choir, why work too hard, right Dan?
Greenfield: Most gun crimes take place in big cities where most people live!
(Gee Dan, and so do most traffic accidents and most case of the flu, since that's where most people live. Duh…)
Most big cities vote for Obama!
(Yes, and most of Romney's voters also came from big cities. Why? Because that's where most people live! Duh…)
Most gun crimes are committed by gang members, and most gang members are not white country folk, and since gangs live mostly in big cities, that makes Obama's base gang members! Oh, and to just really scare the hell out of you, I put a picture of a bunch of rowdy BLACK Obama supporters on this page!
See! Black, equals gangs and gun violence, equals Obama. "Obamamerica" some non-American world.
Greenfield, you racist scumbag.
Care to back up those claims with actual statistics?
Or you could just racism a lot.
Now you're asking me for statistics to back up the very premise of your own article?
Try to follow the bouncing ball, Shillman Fellow:
Most people live in cities. Therefore most human activity, be it murders, voting, blinking or grocery shopping, occurs in cities. We can bet, based purely on numbers, that more red-haired midgets live in cities than rural areas, too. Why didn't you therefore conclude these individuals make up Obama's "base"?
By your reasoning, since we know that most KKK members live in red states, and since red states voted for Romney, that Romney should be slimed by some association with the KKK. Fair?
And why did you use a picture of a crowd of black people for your article "linking" urban gang murderers-as-voting bloc to Obama? I guess you don't even need to be coy about certain things, among friends, huh Greenfield?
Amazing, you actually have the chutzpah to try to defend your moral and intellectual garbage.
I already quoted my statistics up top.
I'm asking you to back up your claims with statistics.
That "crowd of black people" is actually Kanye West and Jay Z. And they're quite relevant since Obama choose to promote rappers who glamorize violence. A category that Jay Z is in.
Perhaps you should learn to tell "black people" apart, before you scream racism.
I agree with your statistics; it's the obscene conclusions you draw which are so disgraceful. I don't have to tell you that you're a hack and a right wing propagandist. Surely that is the mission of this site.
Here's some statistics: Mississippi is among America's fattest, least healthy and most poorly educated state, and it has gone overwhelmingly for Republicans in the past handful of presidential elections. Let's therefore call the fat and stupid the Republican "base" okay?
My "claim" is that you're a racist, a race baiter, and a punk terrified of blacks and Arabs. Your garbage requires no further mockery; it mocks itself.
And yeah, I know who Kanye West and Jay Z are, and am generally pretty good at telling black people apart, especially since I married one. Interesting that you didnt' choose to put Harvey Weinstein on the article since Hollywood does far more to glamorize violence than rappers do.
So you're not arguing with my facts and you have no way of countering anything I said.
But you do want to spend 5 paragraphs screaming that I'm a racist.
How very liberal of you.
I would put Time Warner ahead of Harvey Weinstein.
"See! Black, equals gangs and gun violence, equals Obama. "Obamamerica" some non-American world."
You're just showing yet again that you can't follow the logic of the discussions. The problem is you. It's one thing to disagree, but when you can't even summarize anything close to the argument presented, you are clearly the fault point in the discourse.
Will you consider that please? If I go and attack a bunch of people who disagree with me, I must first at least demonstrate that I understand the logic of their theories and statements. If I can't even summarize accurately what they've said, why would they bother with me? I'd sound like a troll.
"Greenfield, you racist scumbag."
You've got the same flavor of racism of the leftists, though you deny being one. You see race where it was never a factor that anyone else can discern but leftist-racists. Why would that be? Because you don't even bother to see if there is a valid point being made, you go immediately to the "dog whistle" claim as if every discussion that you want to oppose is coded racism. That also makes your life a lot easier by making your attacks so simple. They're not effective outside of leftist circles.
It's delusional leftist nonsense and no matter how you see yourself. you're a complete leftist dupe.
And most bigoted, red herring articles that mistake correlation for causation are written by those who vote for Romney.
What is the point of this article? The highest crime rates in any country around the world are in its major cities, who incidentally did not vote for Obama.