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“O God, do not be silent; hold not Thy peace, and be not still,” the Chief Rabbi of Israel prayed the words of Psalm 83 over the bodies of two murdered children, their mother and an old man.
Hamas and PLO terrorists had mockingly paraded their coffins to the cheers and jeers of Muslim men, women and children occupying Gaza while upbeat music played, they had mixed up the bodies, locked the boxes and then attached keys that did not work. After inspecting the coffins for explosives, Israel had covered them with its blue and white flag and prayed over them.
Islam is an honor-shame culture and to humiliate the bodies of the children of your enemies is to show the strength of Allah and jeering the bodies of murdered children shows the glory of Islam.
The celebration and mocking of the bodies of murdered children was not the work of some fringe group. Hamas took care to have every Islamic terrorist organization taking part in claiming victory, including the PLO’s Al-Aqsa Martyrs’ Brigades representing the ‘Palestinian Authority’ and the Democratic Front for the Liberation of Palestine (Omar al-Qassim Brigades) popular on college campuses, as well as the Al-Ansar Brigades which has links to Al Qaeda.
There is no ‘Palestinian’ group that was not there to take its share of credit for the dead children.
The message being sent by the representatives of seven different Islamic terrorist groups in Israel carrying the coffins of their victims is of a united front committed to the destruction of Israel, and the killing of all non-Muslims to be followed by the creation of an Islamic theocracy.
Nor was the ghoulish scene some local ‘Palestinian’ phenomenon as people like to think.
Hamas is an arm of the Muslim Brotherhood. The Brotherhood formerly ran Egypt and Tunisia, runs politics in Morocco, has legislators in Algeria and Libya, celebrated the takeover of Syria by its Al Qaeda allies, and dominates Muslim expat politics in America, Europe and around the West through groups such as CAIR, which celebrated the Oct 7 attacks, and the campus MSA.
The choreography and graphics for the hostage handovers allegedly came from Al Jazeera, Qatar’s state propaganda outlet, whose personnel have doubled as terrorists in Gaza. Qatar is a state sponsor of the Muslim Brotherhood and funded its Hamas arm. Qatar’s ‘negotiations’ that led to the parade of coffins were meant to allow Hamas to claim victory.
Other state sponsors of Hamas include Turkey, Iran and Pakistan and non-Muslim allies like China and Russia which hosted unity meetings between Hamas and other Islamic terror groups.
What happened in Gaza was not the doing of a small ‘extremist’ group but the Islamic ideology of hundreds of millions of people in the Middle East and around the world. Including in the U.S.
The Bibas children, 9-month-old Kfir and 4-year-old Ariel, the ages at the time of their kidnapping while their ages at the time of death remain unknown, along with their mother, join a litany of other Israeli children and family members murdered by Hamas and Islamic terrorists.
On Oct 7, the Siman Tov family was murdered, including their twin 5 year old daughters and 2-year-old son Omer, their bodies burned. The Kapshetar family, including 8-year-old Aline and 5-year-old Ethan were massacred while returning from a family trip. 9-month old Mila Cohen was shot in the arms of her father. Her 73-old grandmother was also murdered. A pregnant woman was shot on the way to the hospital. Dozens of other children were kidnapped or killed.
But October 7 was nothing new.
In 2001, a PLO terrorist sniper shot Shalhevet Pass, a 9-month-old girl, while she was sitting in her stroller in Hevron. Her father had been previously attacked with an axe and her aunt stabbed in the back as a teenager. The terrorist could have shot the parents. He picked a baby.
In 2002, a Muslim terrorist got as close as he could to the children at a Bar Mitzvah on a Sabbath in Jerusalem before he blew up. The dead included the Nehmad family, both parents and two of their daughters, 3 year old Liran and 7 year old Shiraz along with their 18 month old cousin, Oriah and her 12 old brother who had been sent by his father to get the car keys.
In 2004, Muslim terrorists massacred the Hatuel family, 2-year-old Meirav, shot in the head while in her car seat, 7-year-old Roni, 9-year-old Hadar, and 11-year-old Hila, along with their mother who was eight months pregnant with a never to be born baby boy.
In 2011, Muslim terrorists with the PFLP, a terrorist group active on American campuses, broke into the Fogel home on Shabbat, partially decapitated 3-month-old Hadas in her crib, stabbed 4-year-old Elad in the heart and killed 11-year-old Yoav. Two other children survived by hiding.
Hamas demanded and secured the release of these child-murdering terrorists as part of the Biden-Witkoff hostage deal.
Hezbollah had demanded the release of Samir Kuntar who had smashed in the head of Einat Hanar, a 4-year-old girl, against a rock with his rifle butt. On his release, Iran’s government and Hezbollah honored him, the PLO praised him as an “authentic role model” and Al Jazeera’s Beirut office chief threw him a party and called him a pan-Arab hero.
Muslim terrorists did not murder these children as collateral damage. Killing children is the point.
In 2001, a Hamas terrorist attack on a Jerusalem pizza place saw “people – babies – thrown through the window and covered with blood” and survivors described “wading through bodies, including the bodies of children”.
“The worst thing I saw, which I think will haunt me all my life, is a baby that was sitting in a stroller outside a shop and was dead,” another eyewitness related. “After the explosion, the baby’s mother came out of the store and started screaming hysterically.”
One of the Hamas terrorists involved in the attack said, “We have to send them a message that their children are not safe.”
Another of the Hamas terrorists involved in the attack described her reaction while riding on a Muslim bus. “While I was on the bus and everybody was congratulating one another, they said
on the radio that there had been a martyrdom attack at the Sbarro restaurant, and that three people were killed. I admit that I was a bit disappointed, because I had hoped for a larger toll. Yet when they said ‘three dead,’ I said: ‘Allah be praised.’”
“Two minutes later, they said on the radio that the number had increased to five. I wanted to hide my smile, but I just couldn’t. Allah be praised, it was great. As the number of dead kept increasing, the passengers were applauding.”
The killing of Jewish children by Muslim terrorists predated the rebirth of Israel.
Almost 100 years ago, during the 1929 Hebron Massacre before there was even an Israel, Muslim mobs wiped out the Jewish community. The dead included children like Menachem Segal, 3, whose mother held him in her arms and begged the Muslim mob not to kill him. Menachem was stabbed in the head and his mothers’s fingers were cut off.
Why kill children?
“It is allowed for us to kill their women and children, even if that were to cause us to miss taking them as wealth (slaves), due to its breaking the hearts of the enemy.” Saudi Sheikh Ibn Uthaymin explained in a fatwa.
This was the Islamic fatwa Hamas was following in its celebration of its murder of children.
But the killing of children is the ultimate expression of the Islamic genocidal goal in Gaza. Peace was always a lie. The invading Islamic population was there to wipe out the Jews. Completely.
And not just the Jews.
Not long before the handover of the bodies of the Bibas children, a 2-year-old girl and her mother became the latest victims of the Muslim terrorist attack in Munich, Germany.
Last month the Muslim terrorist who stabbed eight little girls at a dance class in the UK, three of them fatally, pleaded guilty. One six-year-old girl was stabbed 122 times and another 85 times. The warrior of Allah stabbed the little girls while they ran for their lives.
“It’s a good thing those children are dead, I’m so glad, I’m so happy,” he told authorities.
In Russia, Israel and Nigeria, Muslim terrorists have attacked schools and taken children hostage. They do this because Islam is in a war of extermination with the world.
Like all monsters, it preys on the weak, killing our children to wipe us out and replace us.
At the remains of the bodies of the Bibas children, the Chief Rabbi prayed, “O God, do not be silent.” We cannot know what G-d will do, but we are the ones who must not remain silent.
The “Religion of Peace” didn’t get hijacked. (Maybe President Bush choosing the word “hijacked” undermined his assertion!) It was never peaceful.
If Islam was ever ‘hijacked’, then Mohammed was the original hijacker. He did hijack Judaism and Christianity and assorted pagan beliefs to create Islam.
Interesting how Muhammad adopted several practices from Jews in the attempt to legitimize the pseudo religion. In targeting and killing of children, the Muslims are like hyenas attacking lion cubs. Yet the hyenas run and hide when the male lion comes for justice.
The first thing hyena cubs do when they’re born is the stronger one or ones kill the weakest one. And male pride leaders snap the spines of hyena matriarchs.
Yes, islamopithecine leaders are bitches when it comes to Jews and Americans.
Assuming Mohammad actually existed, which your colleague, Spencer, doesn’t believe. Whoever came up with the unholy Koran, Hadith and sura was or were real genocidal, slaver, misogynistic pieces of shit, that’s for sure.
islam is a filthy ideology masquerading as a religion and its followers take pleasure in wallowing it the filth.
Today’s Muslims, worldwide. are civilized only to the degree that they reject the more savage content of their Quran and other traditions.
That’s right. Islam has never been peaceful. It’s a death-cult, hell-bent on killing anyone who is not Muslim. Has been for 1400 years, since it’s unfortunate inception.
Typo “it’s”. Should be “its unfortunate inception”.
It’s the religion of ‘blown to pieces’.
The Saudis owned the Bushes, so what did you expect?
There is no glory in islam. It is of the devil. It and everyone who believes in it.
Daniel,
Thank you for the somber & chilling trip down memory lane. Am sure the Bibas family & all victims of jihad are in the loving embrace of Yahweh.
Have attended the XX. Summer Olympics in Munich 1972 & witnessed the 2nd attack of the coward PLO thugs in ski masks murdering the Israeli athletes. Was an atheist then. Offered a simple solution to the islamist menace: two bullets. The 1st one in the crotch to prevent procreation. The 2nd one btw the eyes to make sure of it. Been a Christian for 44 years still w/ the same Weltanschauung. The barbaric & sadistic jihadists have forfeit any right to live in a civilized society.
Our Babies
by Gabrielle
2/20/2025
My arms embrace you,
You are tiny and vulnerable.
Yet when your eyes meet mine,
A thankfulness dances deep within my soul.
I carried you as you grew within the shelter of my womb,
Each day I learned more about you.
My heart was filled with a song of life,
You kicked and moved until the sounds and movement in your tranquil paradise began contracting.
You announced your time and labor began,
Eighteen hours later your first cry echoed in the delivery room.
You were placed upon me and I spoke to you,
The sound of my voice soothing as you already recognized me.
In that moment I felt an indescribable love,
An expansive love, knowing you would depend on me for everything.
You were the most precious miracle in my life,
An unexpected gift from G-d.
When I hear the sounds of another mother’s anguished cries,
And the indifference of those who slaughtered her children.
My heart shatters as the sounds of her grieving fill the universe with immense sorrow.
Tomorrow will find her weeping as life for others moves on,
Yet G-d has kept every one of her tears.
And those who sought her destruction by murdering her babies,
They do not know the G-d of Israel.
For upon the echoes of screams hidden in the darkness,
Arises the might and thunder of our righteous G-d.
It is He who is calling all of his children home,
Reminding us we are to be a light unto the nations
And each and every child murdered on the idolatrous altar of Islam,
They are with the Holy One waiting to be reunited.
Their beautiful souls existing in eternity,
Outside of this space and time.
The radiant light of unimaginable love from G-d Almighty enfolding them,
And the hearts of their mother’s
forever intertwined between this world and the next.
And may the vengeance of G-d Almighty be exacted upon ALL who have chosen evil,
Profaning life from the arms of their loved ones.
May each and every one of their names be as for a blessing.
Those are awfully cute camouflage onesies that Baby Ismail Haniyeh, Baby Yahya Sinwar, Baby Mohammed Sinwar and Babies Hassan Nasrallah and Ahmed Safieddin were wearing – not sure what it can be like for their mothers to give birth to 5ft 10 in babies, but I guess it’s their part in jihad.
“ ARE YOU EMBRACING THE 20,000 ARAB CHILDREN KILLED BY IdF?
Of course, not – they are not “humans” in comparison to “God’s Children”!”
Statistical fraud compiled by scumbags are not humans, they are bogus figures on a sheet that even the Gaza Ministry of Health admitted they had wrong. And in any case as the people who started this war and pushed hostages and terrorists among civilians, primary fault for the deaths lie with Hamas and its Allie’s.
None of this should be taken to mean that when Eric Clapton’s son crawled out of that open 53rd floor window it wasn’t funny as hell.
😆 He would probably have grown up to be a junkie anyway…
What is wrong with you?!!
Nothing is wrong with me.
I am fed up with anti-Semites like Eric Clapton, and love to see them suffer.
The death of Connor Clapton — from parental neglect in fact (no one leaves a four year old unattended in a high rise) — was funny as hell.
Who celebrates the death of an innocent, 4-year-old boy?!! Oh, that’s right, bloodthirsty crowds in Gaza – and YOU.
When the offspring of nazis die from parental neglect, I celebrate.
War is war.
“Palestinian” nationalism is nothing but a guise to facilitate a second Holocaust. When you see people like Hanan Ashrawi, “moderate Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas” (who wrote doctoral thesis denying the Holocaust and who last faced voters 20 years ago) or their western apologists (Barack Hussein Osama, Peanut Dhimmi Carter, Elizabeth Warren, Alexandria Ocasio Cortez, Greta Thunberg, Susan Sarandon or Michael Moore) you’re actually looking at the 21st century versions of Adolf Hitler, Josef Goebbels, Reinhardt Heydrich and Lena Riefenstahl
Nation states, even majority Muslim are antithetical to Islam’s main goal, a global ummah or caliphate. Muslim independent nation states are tolerated only insofar as to bring about this goal. And to achieve that goal requires the death of submission of every infidel/nonbeliever.
The word ISLAM itself translates not as peace (which is salaam) but as SUBMISSION. You will never hear nor read this in the state-controlled media.
Submission is also the goal of Leftists/Democrats and so Isam and Leftism are for the present allies of convenience. Until Ocasio Cortez finds her head is about to get lopped off by a rusty hacksaw once she and her ilk have outlived their usefulness to the Mullahs.
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True – BUT ALSO OPPOSED TO KAHANISM, LIKUD, AND HEROD NETANYAHU!
The fact that you conflate those things together belies your bigotry, ignorance, and stupidity. There is one side of this war that seeks total genocide. There is one side of this war that murdered children in cold blood with bladed weapons. It is not Netanyahu’s.
And like all Islamist and Marxist ‘fake nationalism’ is ultimately aimed at the destruction of the West.
Amal and George Clooney take great exception to being omitted from your list of Israel and Jew haters.
Sorry, my bad. But then even Biden knows that Clooney lacks the intellectual heft to write op-eds in The New York Times. It was probably actually written by unrepentant Weather Underground terrorist Bill Ayers, who also penned the Great Narcissist/Marxist/Islamist Barack Hussein Osama’s vasty overrated memoirs.
Shira was not among the bodies. A serious violation of the agreement. The babies were brutally murdered in front of her. Doubtless beheaded. She is probably being held as a sex slave, with the IDF girls frantically calling their parents that first day.
At least this ends any suggestion that Hamas and Gazans remain there. Bus them all to the Sinai. Execute as may be appropriate.
yes, that came out after the article had been written
Daniel – watch out: THAT SOUNDS EXACTLY LIKE NAZIS – up here!
The Nazis hated Jews and others for existing, much like their ally Amin Al-Husseini and his ideological heirs like Hamas. Proposing that people be deported or executed on the basis of their crimes is not like Hitler.
Stop shilling for modern day imitators of Hitler and Herod.
Exactly what article written by the National SOCIALIST German Worker’s Party came out before a bit of information was known and made public, and how would that mean Greenfield feels any sympathy with those leftists? You’re conflating him with the Dirtbagocrat party, its Minitrue Media, the EU and Hamas, Jew haters all, just like you.
We should support Trump’s relocation plan with the provision that the individual families be sent to as many unique locations as possible, so they do not reform hate-supporting communities. This was a common approach during early human civilization where the victors removed the indigenous population to other climes and replaced them with foreign populations. “By the rivers of Babylon, there we sat and there we cried concerning our return to Zion.” Nonetheless, Jews became a prosperous and productive community in Iraq and Iran even thought they suffered under later-appearing Islam. They survived in these places until the twentieth century. Time for the Muslims to experience their own exile wished so whole-heartedly for the Jews.
If these “Palestinians” are displaced they will simply end up as “refugees” or “asylum seekers” in the West and join the thousands of would be terrorists already in our midst (in the UK MI5’s figure of 23,000 on Islamic terrorist list). And yet more of our children will end up sacrificed by our ethno-masochist liberal ruling classes.
There are places in the West that obsequiously support “Palestine”:. They deserve “Palestinians”.
spain, norway and especially ireland are at the top of the list.
There are a small minority in the west that support Palestinians who get all the media attention that vastly inflates their perceived numbers. The majority have never been consulted about the imposition of mass immigration of mainly muslims into Europe. The ethno-masochistic ruling globalist class dare not ask and have introduced ever more draconian restrictions and legislation to suppress dissent.
I seriously doubt President Trump would allow those subhumans to become fake refugees in America and he DEFINITELY has no plans to do so, or he would be quick to articulate them.
They should be sent to another Muslim country. Syria, Jordan and Egypt are all good options. They’re not a unique people, they’re simply local Arab clans who moved into Israel.
First they should be forcibly castrated and/or sterilized.
Then, fully transitioned whether they like it of not.
Then, sent off to be sold as eunuchs.
They would be acceptable to lots of Arabs then. ~
A frequent commenter (his moniker is *infidel*) on Jihad Watch has argued that relocating the Gazans to Egypt, Syria, or Jordan is actually unwise, as Hamas, inextricably part of that population, will destabilize the governments of both Egypt and Jordan, making Israel even more vulnerable to attacks than presently. And Israel already has enough of a problem with now-anarchic Syria. Augmenting an already hostile populace in these areas would do Israel no favors. The best solution would be to relocate the Gazans to Arabic-speaking, culturally similar areas as far away from Israel as possible, such as underpopulated Libya. I think he’s right, although my preferred option is to blow all the child-murdering Gazan beasts to kingdom come, and leave the Strip a permanent pile of uninhabited rubble. Sadly, that’s probably unrealistic, albeit well-deserved.
African Egypt is far from the Asian Sinai border with Israel. Libya would be good because who cares if Psuedostinians and ISIS kill each other. And who cares about Libya’s neighbors, either? Tunisia, Algeria, Niger, Chad Sudan and Egypt? Those are some of the worst countries on Earth.
Displacing them to Libya means they end up across the Med into Europe. No thanks we have enough terrorists imposed on us already. Just try being a Jew in Europe today.
Yes. He’s correct.
But Egypt might be the best immediate solution as the numbers and the legal situation would make little difference to everyone involved.
Moving the Gazans farther will come with all sorts of difficult political problems.
Jordan will fall if any significant number are moved.
Personally, I think Sudan would be the best destination for Gazans.
None of those Muslim countries want them because all they do is cause problems everywhere they go. They were placed in Gaza to be a thorn on Israel’s side.
Hussein in Jordan would never take them. He hates them even more than his daddy did. A personally, I think Syria is too close to Israel and more than bad enough already. I hope they end up in African Egypt far from the Sinai Peninsula.
I feel like I had read those “REPLACEMENT SUGGESTIONS” before.
AND NOW I REMEMBER: THAT WAS FOR SENDING ONE LOT TO MADAGASCAR!
AND NOW, THAR SAME LOT WANTS TO COPY SOMEONE THEY CLAIM THEY HATE?
This would be more convincing were there not centuries of history for dispossession of the Jews including in the Caliphate that Hamas shills for, and the complete extermination and expulsion of Jews from Gaza and Eastern Jerusalem.
shut up already, moron. your analogies are off base. if you are blind to the unique 150% EVIL that Hamas and its followers represent, you are a f– a*hole.
Palestinians or rather current residents of Gaza are not indigenous to Gaza
So the analogy doesn’t fit that well.
Anyone who call Islam the Religion of Peace has sawdust for Brains or has Rocks in their Heads
Yep, like Bush on 9/11.
I am so sorry about this. Obviously remembering what happened to Ilan Halimi, I was not very hopeful of a safe return for these children. But there is always hope, until there isn’t.
However, we have our Creator’s promise that he can and will remember the dead and that he will wake them from the dreamless sleep of death when the time comes. These children are not lost. They are held safe in “the everlasting arms” – safe in God’s memory. And they will live again.
For example, Isaiah 26:19 tells us:
“Your dead will live.
My corpses will rise up.
Awake and shout joyfully,
You residents in the dust!
For your dew is as the dew of the morning,
And the earth will let those powerless in death come to life.”
But God will not wake them until the whole earth is at peace under the loving rule of the Kingdom of God. It will be such a joyful awakening when it comes.
Those 2 dead children won’t be lost.
BUT NEITHER WILL HEROD NETANYAHU’S 20,000!
“ Those 2 dead children won’t be lost.”
By definition they have.
“BUT NEITHER WILL HEROD NETANYAHU’S 20,000!”
Which flatly do not exist, as even a cursory look at the “Gaza Health Ministry”’s bullshit numbers and how they were forced to retract them.
I also note you accuse Netanyahu of being Herod, yet it is Hamas that murdered children by hand, in cold blood. Nor did Netanyahu put civilians in amidst military targets.
20,000 “palestinian” rugrats killed by the IDF? I doubt it – those are “Hamas Dept of Health” (!) numbers. But if true, the IDF has done a “Good Work” thereby; nipping in the bud 20,000 future Terrorist Animals that would thrill themselves with the slaughter of Jewish Babies.
Why debate a poser who called jigaboo7 ?
So true. Seems “palestinians” only reason for existing is the destruction of Israel and killing Jews. They are taught this since they day they’re born by their palestinian mothers.
Hello jboo7 Our loving Creator, the God of Abraham, cares for all of us. He is impartial – he has assured us of that – and all children killed in the terrible wars of the world are very precious to him. And because of that they have such a wonderful awakening ahead of them.
We live in the times during which “man has dominated man to his harm”. We were not meant to rule over each other, so we are living in a tragedy. A big change is coming to the earth soon, and the link so fatally broken in Eden will be restored.
We need to seek for our Creator and find him. And he will help us to get through these times without letting “the world” shape us in its cruel and unjust image. And if we seek for Him, He will let us find Him.
Sue,
How may an omnipotent Creator lose
touch with his/her creation—and how
may his/her creation display effects
not inherent to the Creator ?
In other words, “the devil didn’t make
me do it,” but . . .
-Rick
Hello Rick A good question. An omnipotent Creator does not lose touch with anything of course. But what he has done is let us live for a while – only a few days in his eyes – with the consequences of the decision made in Eden.
The first chapters of Genesis explain that when our first parents were persuaded to cut themselves off from their Creator, their Source of life, they found they could not even keep themselves alive, let alone run this beautiful and complex planet. And brother began to kill brother.
We, their damaged children, are still living in the tragedy that decision created. But Genesis also promises us a rescue. And soon the God of Abraham, the true God, will put an end to the times during which “man has dominated man to his injury”.
The world is determined that we shall see the first chapters of Genesis as a creation myth. But they are written as history – the history of us. And for centuries faithful Jewish scribes traced the generations down from Adam. So do we live in the ruthless Darwinian system that the world would have us believe, or are the writers of the Inspired Scriptures telling us the truth? And if they are telling us the truth (as I believe), isn’t there more happiness ahead for us, right here on the earth, than we can now imagine?
Perhaps He wants to see if free will is compatible with decency ??
Sickening, absolutely sickening. The deliberate, calculated, malicious murder of children, then glee over their deaths.
And the people of “Palestine” really don’t understand why civilized people refuse to support them? Refuse to give them a State?
How could any rational, decent, person support such barbarity?
The appeal of the ‘Palestinians’ isn’t to decent civilized people.
It’s to barbarians.
That’s why their cause is so popular.
You said a mouthful.
The inner core of the animal brain is pagan.
Jews brought higher ideals to the human race. THAT is why they are so hated.
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OTOH, there are many fine Jewish comedians.
…as long as they don’t take themselves seriously, the Kinky Friedmans and Tom Lehrers are a joy.
Daniel’s point in this article is that it is NOT just the people of Gaza but the entire Muslim world that believes and acts this way.
Why can’t Western people let go of their delusion that Muslims and their beliefs are benign and do not threaten them?
Some people are willfully blind about the fact that Islam is a death-cult, always has been. The goal of Islam is to kill as many infidels as possible and rule the world.
Mr. Greenfield, you probably won’t allow this comment to appear, but the Israelis and the Israeli Jews know all this, do they not? Then why grant work permits to the Palestinians? Altruistic compassion? Altruistic suicide?
All of this would have been avoided by not giving work permits to the Palestinians. Would Israel give work permits to Hitler and the Nazis to work in Israel? Or give work permits to the KKK?
It is a moral crime to give money, support, or employment to your own destroyers. Yet that is what Israel did with such reckless irresponsibility.
What I have written may strike you as insensitive but it is the truth. If there had been no self-sacrificial altruism on the part of Israel there would have been no October 7th.
In reality that altruism you speak of comes from the leftist-secularists in Israel. Probably quite oddly to you those who keep the Torah and are conversant with the mitzvot and G-d’s mandates about properly addressing enemies might shock you.
Additionally. this leftist ideology has devotees throughout the Israeli government. One such adherent is Herzl Halevi, Chief of General Staff for the IDF, who was notified on October 6 by the female IDF soldiers in Nahal Oz manning computer consoles monitoring the Israel border with Gaza. Having noticed a significant increase in border activity in Gaza they immediately notified Herzl. It was willfully ignored by this leftist and the following morning this nightmare began which included the violent abuse and kidnapping of these very soldiers into Gaza.
The members of the many living in the various kibbutzes, also most of whom are liberal leftists, were unwittingly engaged in “friendly” relations with those in Gaza who worked for them caring for their homes, children etc. While these so called friendly relationships were both cultivated and sustained, these Gazans were making maps of their homes, the number of people and animals in each one. The Nova Festival, held on the Jewish holiday of Simchat Torah was populated with liberal-leftist peace nicks.
Israel will need to thoroughly purge the country of this self-destructive ideology and remove those for whom this activism has undermined both the safety and sovereignty of the Jewish nation.
BTW, one of the women captured in Nahal Oz told her Hamas captor that she had “Palestinian friends”. He said, “I don’t care.”
Such lunacy for those believing this crap and they were the ones targeted in this vicious pogram against the Jewish people.
What you say has merit. On October 8, it was clear to me that this happened as a result of the willful disregard of available intelligence which is why a thorough investigation into Shin-Bet, Mossad and the IDF management will need to be done and any who were involved in obfuscating relevant intel from the government punished and removed from their positions. We’ll see if that ever hapoens.
Altruism is not the problem. It is the proffered solution of a shallow ideology.
Jews did not sacrifice themselves when they gave work permits to “Palestinians.” They were attempting to engage in normal, civilizational practices of mutual benefit.
Giving work permits doesn’t even begin to touch the root of the problem, and a rudimentary application of observation and reason would reveal that to you.
Your ideology does not comport with reality or reason. The solution for the Jews is complex, but all gentiles would have to be supportive of Jews and their culture in a land belonging to the Jewish people. And the Jews must have the right to expel all persons who are incompatible with them.
You are wrong and I am right.
The Palestinians would not exist except that America and the West are keeping them in existence through altruistic tax dollars sustaining their existence. On their own they would perish.
“Then I saw what was wrong with the world, I saw what destroyed men and nations, and where the battle for life had to be fought. I saw that the enemy was an inverted morality—and that my sanction was its only power. I saw that evil was impotent—that evil was the irrational, the blind, the anti-real—and that the only weapon of its triumph was the willingness of the good to serve it. Just as the parasites around me were proclaiming their helpless dependence on my mind and were expecting me voluntarily to accept a slavery they had no power to enforce, just as they were counting on my self-immolation to provide them with the means of their plan—so throughout the world and throughout men’s history, in every version and form, from the extortions of loafing relatives to the atrocities of collectivized countries, it is the good, the able, the men of reason, who act as their own destroyers, who transfuse to evil the blood of their virtue and let evil transmit to them the poison of destruction, thus gaining for evil the power of survival, and for their own values—the impotence of death. I saw that there comes a point, in the defeat of any man of virtue, when his own consent is needed for evil to win—and that no manner of injury done to him by others can succeed if he chooses to withhold his consent. I saw that I could put an end to your outrages by pronouncing a single word in my mind. I pronounced it. The word was “No.” – Ayn Rand, Atlas Shrugged
I should have enacted the THX Drinking game earlier in this thread. It must be nice having such simplistic solutions to everything. And we haven’t had a nice boring lecture from the Old Bag in a long time.
And yeah, in all this time you have solved nothing with your idiotic obsessions. But, like all faux intellectuals, you get to bloviate endlessly.
You do not think in categories, and thus your reason and logic fail. Your category for “altruism” extends to categories that are not altruism. For example:
THX: “The Palestinians would not exist except that America and the West are keeping them in existence through altruistic tax dollars sustaining their existence. On their own they would perish.”
Altruism is self-sacrifice. Americans are not sacrificing themselves, but are being exploited and robbed. The government has no money of its own to “sacrifice.” Big difference. Plus, the peoples of that region would not perish, but revert to their older ways.
You are only “right” when your position is strong- manned and survives criticism. It might feel good to preen about your logic and reason, but to do so in the presence of patently irrational assessments in which you stretch the plain meaning of words only makes you look weak and foolish.
I agree with you that self-sacrifice can be immoral – but the immoral category of self-sacrifice is very, very narrow. Not only that, it is rare. You see it everywhere because you bend the meaning suit your own inclinations which, if shared by everyone, would cause civilizational collapse.
So, if you want to have rhetorical power, define “altruism” and use it coherently in its proper category. Cooperation is not altruism. Charity is not altruism. Help is not always altruism. Giving is not always altruism. Etc. etc.
Blaming ‘altruism’ for Atheism’s political alliance with Islam …
would be gaslighting
Except it’s obvious THX does not know what ‘altruism’ means, much less what it is.
Those of us who think ‘altruism’ means something other than stealing a victim’s money to fuel his enemies get confused reading this (atheist) religious nonsense.
You’re right.
It’s known that the islamists that worked in Israeli neighborhoods used that time to gather Intel.
The scheming pricks recorded names, addresses, scheduled events, etc.
The “palestinian workers” aided & abetted the coming Oct 7th. Plain and simple.
(What shouldn’t have been surprising, were the woke fools celebrating Oct 7th.
BLM celebrated the mass murder by posting a paraglider icon with “I SUPPORT PALESTINE”, and college students rioted on campus.)
Those “guest workers” you pointed out were evil. They (like the 9/11 hijackers) put on a friendly face while among their future victims.
So you’re right to advocate not repeating another round of work permits.
Yes, the Paleosimians with work permits to Israel are like cheap illegal immigrant labor here except Mexicans aren’t on a jihad to murder Americans. They just want more money than they can earn in Mexico. If you have a flat tire on the side of a road and are fixing it, most illegals will stop and help you if they’re driving or walking by. They sure won’t murder your baby and then smile and gloat and celebrate.
No, depending on if they are criminals, and you’re a woman, you might just end up raped or dead.
I once lived there and there are plenty of violent Mexicans and others from South America including sim from vicious gangs.
“……most illegals will stop and help you if they’re driving or walking by.” I write from experience. Most Mexican illegal aliens are NOT violent rapists and I wrote nothing about Central or South Americans. Yes, the Norteño and Sureño gang members can be violent but unlike MS-13 and Tren de Aragua they have honor codes and DON’T go around raping and murdering random people. Again, I write from experience.
And Mexican cartel monsters are NOT illegal aliens. They do own plenty of Dirtbagocrat and RINO politicians, however.
Jeff Bargholz,
Study Aristotle :
“Masculine republics give way
to feminine democracies, and
feminine democracies give way
to tyranny.” -Aristotle
and
Read his warnings for future
generations :
Read Aristotle’s warnings :
On race-mixing: “
“Another cause of revolution is difference of races which do not at once acquire a common spirit; for a state is not the growth of a day, any more than it grows out of a multitude brought together by accident. Hence the reception of strangers in colonies, either at the time of their foundation or afterwards, has generally produced revolution.”
On bad democracy:
“ The last form of democracy . . . [in which] all share alike . . . [and] the leaders have been in the habit of including as many as they can, and making citizens not only of those who are legitimate, but even of the illegitimate . . . This is the way in which demagogues proceed. Whereas the right thing would be to make no more additions when the numbers of the commonality exceeds that of the notables and of the middle class,—beyond this not to go . . . [these] measures taken by tyrants appear all of them to be democratic. Such a government will have many supporters, for most persons would rather live in a disorderly than in a sober manner.”
On how to install bad democracy:
”Fresh tribes and brotherhoods should be established; the private rites of families should be restricted and converted into public ones; in short, every contrivance should be adopted which will mingle the citizens with one another and get rid of old connections.”
-RICK
I see the three Hamas lovers here hate Mexican illegal aliens. That’s sacrilege according to “woke” doctrine, you imbeciles. You’re supposed to support them depressing wages for American workers and burdening American social services. You’ll be uninvited from the next pro abortion death march, BLM/Antifa riot, Hamas riot and public TDS frenzy.
Oh, well. You’ll always have Greenpeace.
To be fair, Jeff,
The quality as well as the quantity of ‘illegals’ – and their views of us and our nation
has shifted dramatically since 2001, 2008, and 2020.
“Illegals” who crossed the border before the Bushie era were more patriotic than your average Democrat. And a majority fit the narrative stereotype offered by the Left: economic migrants coming for a ‘better life’ (with the help of entitlements and special privileges).
But starting under Bush, the Feds went to a lot of trouble to deport economic migrants and “vet” migrants to ensure they were less likely to assimilate. We can see this in the USAID work.
Under Obama, these policies were expanded, and under Biden they were fully weaponized.
The average “illegal” today is more likely to be a criminal disgorged from a prison than an economic migrant.
Just saying – I think that’s confusing people who have not been paying attention for the last 60 years.
The cartels are operating in most every state in the U.S., pushing fentanyl and other drugs as well as trafficking women and children in particular. They don’t hesitate to get into gun fights when challenged (by law enforcement or other cartel members). They are also in league with Hezbollah and other Islamic jihadis, and their collaborations have accelerated since Biden opened the borders. The cartels and their allies (including the jihadis) have raked in billions of $$ as a result of the collusion by the Biden regime. When the DoD and other agencies start targeting the cartels, you will see their violent response ripple throughout the U.S. They will try to intimidate the USG through terrorist acts, and we will have to remove them root and branch, just as Israel will have to do with Hamas (and eventually with Hezbollah). Mexico may eventually have to be declared a terrorist state if they do not join the U.S. fight and begin rooting out the widespread corruption that supports the current narco-terrorist state. With so many cartel and jihadi operatives already in the U.S., it is only a matter of time before the U.S. sees Oct 7 events multiplied by orders of magnitude. Most local law enforcement operations will be overwhelmed, requiring more active U.S. military response.
The cartels buy off D-Bag and RINO politicians here in America but in Mexico, they’re part of the government. And there are too many armed citizens and law enforcement departments here for any 10-7 type attacks to be perpetrated by the cartels.
The islamopithecines who’ve been allowed to invade America could perpetrate mass murder, though, thanks to ever scummy politicians and lefties, particularly Chappaquiddick Ted.
The culture in Mexico is very tolerant of pedophilia. It may be illegal on the books, but it is widely practiced. Worse, some of their women DEFEND it!
I used to work on the abuse and neglect docket in San Antonio. What I discovered was worse than I could have imagined – and I have a strong imagination.
You have a truly sick evil mind. God damn you.
Perhaps you could tell us about the frog and the scorpion. Did they both “self sacrifice” since neither made it to the other side?
The frog knew that the scorpion was dangerous and evil and yet he allowed himself to be sweet talked and deceived by the evil scorpion. The moral of that fable is the scorpion can never change its evil nature and neither can Islam. In that sense, yes, the frog threw away his life, sacrificed it, to the evil scorpion. The scorpion also sacrificed its life, threw it away, for the love of death and the love of evil.
The scorpion loved death more than the frog loved life.
The frog was fooled by the scorpion the same way the fox and maiden were fooled by venomous snakes. None of them sacrificed their lives. Altruism shown to evil is the moral of those stories, not irrational hatred of altruism and morality, which are virtues. Selfishness is a vice.
I agree with THC on this one.
Think of the frog as our politicians who tell us the scorpions are the “animals-of-peace”.
So they burden our backs by pouring them in our neighborhoods (never theirs, of course), and do so with tacit support of half this country..
Too many tell themselves it’ll be O.K; then get stung.
Until a large majority eschew islam, we’re walking into the same frog scenario – willfully blind to the obvious.
Someday you will realize that don’t have the answers to anything.
Monsters do monstrous things.
NOT ALL ISRAELIS ARE KAHANISTS LIKE HEROD NETAYAHU!!
Netanyahu is not a Kahanist, nor is he a Herod. A kahanist would not have freed Muslim Israelis or acknowledged their citizenship, and a Herod would have denied all aid and massacred every Gazan encountered.
But keep up with the blood libel. You revere the actual Herods here.
The evil that is Islam has been evident since it boiled out of Arabia 1700 years ago.
1400 years ago in the 7th century but yes, islame is evidently evil.
Looks like Ham-ass is using the “trickle free” tactic . Trickle one or two hostages freed per week… alive or dead. Meanwhile Ham-ass and Hez-bullsh*t regroup and plan their next heinopus act. No doubt stocking up on camel urine and goat jerky.
Pres. Trump needs to send in the Marines, Navy, Air Force, and Army to Gaza and finish what Israel started. Then float the ships into the Gulf of America and do the same to the cartels in Mexi-hell.
I don’t care what the political impact is.
I think the best solution involves Israel defending herself without constraint. I would not wish my sons to die for Israel.
Okay. For those who downvoted me, you want Israel to be constrained in her own defense and I should be happy to send my children to die on her behalf?
I certainly don’t. To send any American soldier to die for a foreign country where there is nothing to gain is altruist self-sacrifice.
But you are correct, what Israel needs is weaponry and the willingness to wage complete war and destruction on the Palestinians, and annex Gaza and make it part of Israel, a willingness which Israel does not have.
“War is cruelty. There’s no use trying to reform it. The crueler it is, the sooner it will be over…
You people of the South don’t know what you are doing. This country will be drenched in blood, and God only knows how it will end. It is all folly, madness, a crime against civilization! You people speak so lightly of war; you don’t know what you’re talking about.
War is a terrible thing! You mistake, too, the people of the North. They are a peaceable people but an earnest people, and they will fight, too. They are not going to let this country be destroyed without a mighty effort to save it … Besides, where are your men and appliances of war to contend against them? The North can make a steam engine, locomotive, or railway car; hardly a yard of cloth or pair of shoes can you make. You are rushing into war with one of the most powerful, ingeniously mechanical, and determined people on Earth — right at your doors.
You are bound to fail. Only in your spirit and determination are you prepared for war. In all else you are totally unprepared, with a bad cause to start with. At first you will make headway, but as your limited resources begin to fail, shut out from the markets of Europe as you will be, your cause will begin to wane. If your people will but stop and think, they must see in the end that you will surely fail.” ― William Tecumseh Sherman
Your definition of “altruism” seems to embrace any giving of oneself in which there is no reciprocity or gain to the giver. This materialistic view does not recognize powerful benefits accruing to the giver — who gives to receive something he VALUES MORE than the time, labor or money with which he parts. Your religion is very intolerant of this, and this is one of the many reasons objectivist should NEVER be in charge.
In Christianity, “sacrificial” giving is when one gives out of their poverty. It is the closest thing to “altruism” as you define it. But Christians are NEVER REQUIRED to give from their poverty (altruistically). We are to give cheerfully, as we have been blessed by God. See 2 Corinthians 9:7; Proverbs 22: 9; 1 Chronicles 29: 9. The LORD owns everything and is pleased ONLY by cheerful giving.
So why wasn’t Jesus altruistic when He gave His life upon the cross for the sins of the world?
1. Jesus is infinite in power and wealth. It is impossible to diminish it or Him. He cannot “lose.”
2. Jesus is self-existent — the source of all life. Your life and mine are “borrowed” from Him. It is impossible to kill God. Why else could He speak so confidently that He would “rise again”?
3. In His flesh, He willingly gave, as the God-man, Himself as a perfect offering for the sins of the world.
4. He did this more than cheerfully, but for the “joy set before Him.” He received something He desired in exchange.
So, tell me THX, how can that possibly be altruism? If you criticize Christians, you MUST strongman us using our own understanding. Everything else is just sound and fury.
No, you’re right. It’s time for Israel to “go Medieval” on the Paleosimians. They don’t need America’s help and we wouldn’t need to commit ground troops anyway. Paleos can be blown away simply by pushing buttons, just like the Iranian mullahs, Republican Guard and their Navy. Or any other foreign islamopithecines for that matter.
You have a point.
When the entire town of Fallujah surrounded, murdered, and hung the charred bodies of 4 Americans, we invaded the city to drive out all Sunni fighters.
We had ’em on the ropes at a cost. The idiotic cease-fire allowed the jihadists a needed respite to regroup & reload.
So it cost us even more.
I’d have sent patriot missles in and turned that shithole into rubble, as the entire populace had participated & celebrated the 4 murders.
(Unfortunately, Bush43 wanted fight congenially so as not to overly offend the “religion-of-peace”.)
Thank God we have President Trump instead of the George Boosh rules of engagement or Imam Obama or Jihad Joe’s handlers in charge anymore.
Jug-eared Barry’s rules-of-engagement are what led directly to much of Seal Team Six getting killed (over 20 members).
Islamic pricks driving supply trucks had the safest job imaginable under B. Hussein.
(Their safety was his top priority.)
When President Trump took over, driving munitions trucks then became a death sentence.
ISIS collapsed.
Legacy media yawned.
Yeah, those islamopithecines are just too stupid to realize you don’t fuck with Trump. He’s not a weakling like Boosh, an islamopithecine himself like imam Obama or a generous ally like Jihad Joe’s handlers.
If those photos of two innocent children do not give you chills imagining what happened to them and their mother, then you cannot call yourself human.
“Islam is an honor-shame culture and to humiliate the bodies of the children of your enemies is to show the strength of Allah and jeering the bodies of murdered children shows the glory of Islam.”
Sounds like the creed of Satan’s worshiping servants. They are the most malignant culture to come along since the Nazis.
The Nazis learned from Islam. And Nazi Germany funded the Muslim Brotherhood which is Hamas.
Daniel,
Was the Grand Mufti in Jerusalem, who as I understand was in contact with Hitler, one of his educators on these Islamic forms of barbarian treatment?
The Nazis also learned much from Lenin and Stalin, and they were in league with the Soviets until the period after they cooperated on the invasion and division of Poland.
And they all learned from the American Dirtbagocrat party.
Daniel,
have you ever read the Torah?
HOW OFTEN DO YOU FIND THE PRAISE:
“NOR ONE MAN, ONE WOMAN, ONE CHILD DID WE LET LIVE!”
About a dozen times – each time, a town or tribe is fully murdered!
AND THAT IS THE ONLY DOCUMENT OF ISRAEL’S “RIGHT OF THAT LAND”?
And Herod Netanyahu is, joyfully, at the same now – look at his face in USA!
Tell me: Is that really Yahwe’s Order? Or Hitler’s Wotan’s? Or Ba’al’s?
BE HONEST! AND DON’T BLASPHEME!
Ah, the Nazi Collaborator accuses you of being a Nazi!
Firstly scumbag, the Torah is not the only document of Israel’s right to the land. See the Old and New Testaments in their myriad different forms.
Secondly: Hitler did not worship Wotan; that was more his mentor Ludendorff and henchman Himmler. While Hitler was anti-Christian and stepped in heathen Norse traditions he subscribed to a more pantheistic view of the divine.
Thirdly. If you knew half a damn about Wotan, you would know he does not make permanent deals, does not give nations permanent claims to land, and cannot even master his own doom. All of which are utterly contradictory with God as portrayed in the Torah.
Fourthly: you conveniently ignore the consequences of mercy to people that sacrifice children at the feet of idols. See the Booknof Judges.
Also, Netanyahu is no Herod. He did not order the massacre of all infants. He did not glory in their deaths as the Gazans obviously did.
Fifthly: Hamas is descended from the ideology of one of Hitler’s most bloodthirsty collaborators, Amin al-Husseini, who glorified in the public murder of Jews down to infants and recruited for the SS.
Sixth: You demand Daniel not blaspheme, but I point you to what a certain Divine Nazerine Carpenter had to say about those who would lead the little children astray and the fate that awaits them. Awaits people like you.
And those who carry the Lord’s Name in vain.
And our resident Jew Hater Jayboo strikes again. Keep racking up those downvotes , loser.
I read his handle as jigaboo7.
Neither Judaism or Christianity have a core tenet of jihad. Neither do Hinduism or any other religion. Only the cult of Mohammad, Islam does.
The Nazis also took examples from the Democrat Party.
The DNC & Nazi party were exchanging love-notes until just before WWII (Ambassador Joe Kennedy had a aerious man-crush on Hitler.)
To bury this inconvenient truth, the DNC spread the BS narrative that the Nazis were “far right’.
Far right doesn’t encapsulate Darwinism & the eugenics movement. Democrat hero, Margret Sanger did.
The D-Bags and Nazis also shared Jew hatred, a lust to murder their perceived enemies and a love of socialism.
Yes, the islamopithecines are worse than the Nazis were. The Nazis were just far more competent and efficient at genocide. The islamopithecines are barely above the level of animals. True subhumans. The Nazi party was evil incarnate but all too human.
You are correct and anyone who fails to realize this is a moron. They are a murderous cult out to eliminate anyone who doesn’t worship the devil that guides them. The sooner the West realizes this the sooner they can be put down like rabid dogs. There is no other way to deal with them. That’s how they feel about us so a “face off” is imperative. Sooner or later.
What else to expect from savages who don’t even respect their own flesh and blood? They brutalize their own children, use them as shields, teach them to commit the most horrific crimes and drive them to blow themselves up together with their victims – how could they possibly react as human beings to other people’s children?
Those children who had been viciously murdered by the Muslims terrorists of Hamas is a very clear reminder that the brutal cruel vicious malicious and murders jihad entity, Hamas, as its stooges who are its Muslim terrorists are absolutely and completely pure evil.
Furthermore, it’s very obvious that those Muslims monsters of Hamas as well as that jihad terror/murder entity .Hamas , are truly demonic.
That jihad terror/murder entity along with it’s vile and heinous vicious death -inflecting Muslim monsters of Hamas are absolutely and completely evil.
Islam is made up of robots who have never had an original thought. They are like the Dems in that they are terrified of voicing their personal opposition to the leadership. Muslims only understand garbage in, garbage out. People who fail to think for themselves devolve into barbarians and slaughter innocent children and women. The answer to the dumb ass comment that the Jews killed so many women and children and it is the same as the slaughter by Islam, is logically impaired. The Jews warned the civilians to leave Gaza, but the degenerates wouldn’t let them leave. Did they warn the children of Israel that the homicidal maniacs were going to attack Israel?. I think the terrorists are dead men walking. Their future looks very bleak and depressing.
islam is made up of willing participants and cheerleaders of jihad terrorism.
If I were the Israeli Government, I’d make a “Peace Treaty” with the “palestinians, promise them a “State”, get all the hostages back, then a month or so later, go right back in and wipe them all out. It’s what Mohammad would do, after all; it’s their history. The islamic concept known as “taquia”.
You mean “hudna,” not “taqiyya” but your suggestion is spot on. Give the subhumans a taste of their own medicine.
Just remember the late Yasir(That’s my Baby)Arafat who won a Peace Prize and got Standing Ovations from the Useless Nations while wielding Pistol headed the PLO
I don’t understand why the IDF takes prisoners, I believe if you get caught being an islamic murderer you should be shot onsite, one bullet is all .. and if possible in front of camera’s that will get the message out …
Yes, taking terrorists as prisoners is an IDIOTIC practice.
Arab league plan for Gaza to includes Hamas & PA on a Gaza governing board – a board of all Muslims,, btw, to rebuild Gaza for same culture that strangled babies and enjoyed it? With no plan for cultural change. It is rewards 10/7 with a state. And it could become an even more modernized terror state. It certainly doesn’t meet Israel war goals except with some verbal assurances and we know what that is worth.
I suspect duplicity on part of US, yes, even by Trump. He sent Witcoff who backs Arab plan. Trump described a much better, safer plan to relocate current Gaza population and have US in charge. Trump said yesterday he recommended but will not impose his plan. So Trump personally has cover. But there is his boy Witcoff sides with Arab league for this supposedly non-terror but likely future rebuilt terror state.
And Ive been a very big Trump supporter. But….just look at the possible duplicity!
And war weary Israel may be pushed to say Arab league plan is a good thing.
Rabid monsters, slanders against all that might be good, these perverted hideous creatures need elimination with all haste.
This is a very clear reminder that the brutal cruel vicious malicious and murders jihad entity, Hamas, as its stooges who are its Muslim terrorists are absolutely and totally pure evil.
Those despicable Muslim terrorists pf Hamas are so very unconscionably evil and cruel that they even literally burn to death ,while they are still alive ,infants and toddlers.
Those Hamas terrorists will get get away with that most horrendous vicious cruelly . For when they die they will go to a place of severe suffering in fire with that has an everlasting duration , without limit, .that place is hell , In hell they undergo the extreme pain and misery without end , along with their false prophet , Muhammad.
Anyone who claims Islam is the Religion of Peace has Sawdust for Brains and thinks with a remote in one hand watching CNN and a copy of the NYT’s in the other
IsIamic Doctrine inspired this thru the medium of HAMAS–Islamic Resistance Movement. The HAMAS covenant embraces islam, muslim brotherhood and all “good’ muslims that embrace islam and will ‘keep their secrets’…
ISOLATION, Separation, limited trade, zero migration, Cold and Hot War as needed, let them reform, implode or reject their foundational doctrine or others may elect to do it for them.
In the Old Testament, when God told Israel to wipe out a particular enemy nation, man, women and child, I accepted that He had the right to command Isreal to do this. It is only recently, with Hamas in Gaza, that, for the first time, I see the actual wisdom of God in such a command. Sometimes evil is so entrenched that only a clean slate will help. Of course, this is not acceptable in the modern world that has no respect for the God of the bible or His commandments. It is also true that the modern world is incapable of the wisdom that would actually bring peace to the world. We seek to tolerate evil for the hope of peace. True peace will only come when the Prince of Peace returns. Then God Himself will deal in perfect justice and bring true peace in His kingdom.
Israel clearly understands that if you fail to finish the rat killing, the rats will come back!
Thank you for writing “Palestinian” and not Palestinian.