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When we finally learn the full melodrama of the so-called Signal 1-2 day “scandal” of inviting a leftwing, Trump-despising, Atlantic editor Jeffrey Goldberg onto a supposedly secure conference list, involving most of the top Trump security officials, lots of questions need asking and answering.
Most importantly, who exactly had Goldberg’s private number, and ostensibly (in error [?]) could have possibly inserted it into the cleared list of participants in the discussions? Why Goldberg, rather than some random person of some 345 million Americans?
So why in the world would any top Trump officials or their staffers ever even have Goldberg’s private contact information—given his quite public record of a) fabricating stories with unnamed sources, and b) suffering from a decade of chronic Trump derangement syndrome?
Did Goldberg know the mechanisms that had prompted and continued his stealthy presence on the secure discussions?
Why did citizen Goldberg not simply come clean on day one that he realized he was mistakenly included in key national security conference communications, to which he did not belong, and thus should be obviously excluded immediately? Why stealthily listen in for eleven some days? Was the idea of informing his hosts of his own improper presence too old-fashioned morality?
Did Goldberg’s publicizing these discreet discussions really affect in any way at all the otherwise completely successful mission to neutralize years of appeased Houthis aggression and begin to end their veritable destruction of Red Sea international maritime commerce?
How did this blunder rank with prior diplomatic and military screw-ups?
Did it rate with the indiscretion of Secretary of State Dean Acheson’s January 1950 Press Club speech de facto excluding South Korea from the American defense umbrella—an omission that may or may not have contributed to the June 1950 North Korean invasion of the South?
Was it comparable to Ambassador to Iraq April Glaspie’s assurance to Saddam Hussein, “We have no opinion on your Arab-Arab conflicts, such as your dispute with Kuwait”— a needless remark that may have mistakenly green-lighted his 1990 invasion of Kuwait?
Was it comparable to Barack Obama’s March 2012 “hot mic” quid-pro-quo assurance to Russian president Medvedev? Obama got caught in front of the world promising Putin that he would have “flexibility” on American-Eastern European missile defense—if Putin gave him “space” during his “last” election.
And indeed, it is forgotten that both kept their promises: Obama foolishly dismantled American-sponsored Eastern European plans for missile defense, and Putin stayed put for Obama, perhaps empowering Obama’s successful election cycle—postponing his preplanned invasions of Ukraine until 2014. Careerism at the expense of national security?
Did it rank with the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs, Gen. Mark Milley, stealthily contacting his Chinese communist counterpart Chinese Gen. Li Zuocheng, to warn him that he would likely prewarn the People’s Liberation Army leader, if he, Milley, had self-diagnosed his Commander-in-Chief Donald Trump as supposedly dangerously likely to trigger an existential war?
Why would Hillary Clinton weigh in given her illegal use of a private server to transmit classified State Department information and her subsequent destruction of subpoenaed communication devices?
Why would the serial fabulist Susan Rice weigh in, given in the election-year 2012 she flat-out lied to the nation on five Sunday news shows, claiming preposterously that the deadly preplanned terrorist attacks on the American consulate in Benghazi were actually unexpected “spontaneous” demonstrations incited by anger over an anti-Muslim video? Ditto her fallacious Sgt. Bowe Bergdahl “honor” narrative or her lie about the removal of Syrian WMD.
Why would Leon Panetta weigh in, when he was one of the supposed “51 intelligence authorities” in 2020 who ridiculously claimed Hunter Biden’s FBI-authenticated laptop had all the hallmarks of a Russian intelligence disinformation effort—a lie designed to arm Joe Biden before the last 2020 debate, and which might well have affected the 2020 election and for which Panetta has never apologized?
In the end, this was a blunder, but also what the left calls a “teachable moment”, in which a) all future similar conferences should be either held in person or its participants triple-checked on a secure line; and b) all Trump high appointees and their staffers should know enough to have nothing to do with those who wake up each morning wishing to destroy them—and go to bed each night lamenting that they have not done enough to advance that destruction.
“Why did citizen Goldberg not simply come clean on day one that he realized he was mistakenly included in key national security conference communications, to which he did not belong, and thus should be obviously excluded immediately? ”
That’s explained in the article. He was unsure if it was authentic. Once he learned it was he removed himself from the chat group. The Trump Administration is lucky it was a whistleblower like Goldberg. Anyone who wanted to oppose Trump’s wars could have just leaked everything.
Trump’s wars? Really? Yes, you are that stupid.
Yeah, I was wondering about that. I thought WTF? Did my friend go left-wing nutso? Whoever your imposter is he sucks syphilitic green donkey dicks.
….and the imposter does so in Hell.
I think hell is too good for him. But I can’t think of anything lower.
I’m fine. My little dick sucking imposter is obviously a dumb ass. Do me favor and tell him yourself.
Please note that he never has the stones to get into a real back and forth with anyone. He is a pu$$y.
Whether an honest error or willful sabotage, Goldberg’s inappropriate inclusion must be investigated. But the real villain is Goldberg, himself, having exposed sensitive information to the world – much like the reckless, tech-savvy egotists who uncovered “Stuxnet”. Whether driven by contempt for the government, or a needy bid for attention, a fleeting moment of personal glory comes a cost.
He pretty much did leak everything. And of course he “waited” 21 days to “make sure it was legitimate??”🤣🤣 I gotta a bridge to sell ya if you believe that one. He KNEW darn well he wasn’t there by “accident “ & published what he read in his crappy little magazine which few read. This was NO “accident.”
He could have informed someone in the administration on day 1. I think it’s clear he had intent to injure this administration
He could have done so during the call. It was a who else is listening moment.
In theory, if indeed the US military, by design, leaked generalized strike package data to a known Leftist media tool, every friend, associate and or ne’er-do-well associated with said Leftist would get a ping on their phone about said plans.
2 hours before the Op. And now, the US has location and phone signal data on EVERY associated Houthi/Iranian defender in the Red Sea and Gulf of Oman theater of combat.
Brilliant feint.
hang em high.., who ever put his name in.., treason
Why isn’t Goldberg arrested and tried for treason??? If listening in on top secret conferences and then blabbing it to
the world isn’t treason-what is?
He should be arrested just for being ugly. I can’t unsee a face like that. That’s Adam Schiff and Nero ugly.
Stupid and blunder does not even come near the level of ridicule Waltz deserves for the group chat
or for our security officials using the Signal App
or for their incompetence – thinking that pro-Americans can just use a social media app that was likely created by Deep State actors, taxpayer funds, and/or a cabal of entities that amount to the same thing.
Has anyone in cybersecurity sat down with Trump’s people? – especially the older ones (to explain how ALL of these platforms are compromised and connected to one intel service or another) – and especially to the younger ones (about how the Deep State hates our guts and will kill us given half a chance)
Seriously – using a social media app is about on par with using a megaphone in a lunch room at Quantico or Langley.
You might as well publish your intentions in the NYT.
When will “our” side stop being stupid
… and realize they’re in a war?
Sigh. I keep wondering when people will all stop carrying around those 24/7 geolocators/cameras/recorders — that also eavesdrop and collect data from others around if THEY are carrying around one, too.
And it makes it hard for those of us who put “smart” phones in the same category w/TVs’ (unnecessary, causing more harm than they’re worth– those of us who prefer privacy.
What I find most fascinating is the blithe assumption by everyone nowadays, including the Left, that to include a “journalist” in the chat is tantamount to including the enemy. And so it is.
No one in the Trump administration nor the Signal app revealed any of the chat contents or related information to the world and America’s enemies.
Jefferey Goldberg did.
They shouldn’t have called him a lier.
You mean like being a layabout?
Except he wasn’t liering….
And you are a true P.O.S.
This ‘SignalGate’ episode is is a lot more serious than one lefty editor slipping into the conversation…what’s concerning from an intelligence perspective is that the entire top level principals of our USG IC thought it was OK to engage together in a sensitive – albeit not officially ‘classified’ – but still incredibly sensitive discussion – all together – on a cell phone app…whether encrypted or not, the question is what are the cyber tech capabilities of our adversary enemies – China, Iran, Russia – does our IC even know? Or care? This is the real issue….not the apparently undetected presence of an uncleared outsider on the discussion…how long, exactly, has our IC been using Signal for sensitive discussions? This is the investigation that needs to happen…asap.
This is absolutely the issue. Seems like little boys playing Govt with their little regular phones instead of real honest to God secure professional keeper of our flame phones!!!! Who are the dweebs that provided this stupid equipment and “security” layout.
This is why I love VDH.
1. He never allows us to forget recent history and historical perspective.
2. He’s always willing to point out the “Goldberg elephant” in the room.
3. He’s on top of every stupid ploy from “legacy media” and calls it out.
This illustrates the problem with electronic communication. Errors are made.
Who has unitendently hit the “Reply to All?” Raise your hand…
Nope. We need and can have a fail proof security system in the White House for God’s sake!!
The problem is knowing who you can trust–how far down should Trump et al clean house? For the in-house intelligence crowd Trump IS the enemy, not Putin, Xi, or Antifa. Trump’s people certainly can’t trust Google, Apple, or Microsoft. Only new citizen Musk has the wherewithal to reliably set up communication from scratch, and he’s pretty busy. And how many times has the CIA discovered to their horror that their top encryption system had been compromised for years?