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I have an honest question for all those who chant (or who affirm the words), “Palestine must be free!” Or, more fully, “From the River to the Sea, Palestine must be free!” My question is simply this: Where would you like the 7 million Jews currently living in Israel (or, “Palestine” in your words) to go? What is your plan?
As many have pointed out, this chant is not a call for a two-state solution. It is a call for the obliteration of Israel.
Better to chant, “We are full of hate! No more Jewish state!”
Why not spell it out?
After all, if you speak of the Israeli occupation of Palestine since 1948 (or, since 1947) and you claim that Israel as a whole is living on stolen land, you are saying, “No more Jewish state!”
Perhaps this chant would be even more appropriate: “Listen to our brand new line, our land will be Judenrein!” (For those who are not familiar with the German term Judenrein, it means “cleansed of Jews,” as in, “Nazi Germany will be Judenrein!”)
When I posted this same question on X, Fireandice responded accurately: “There is no need for a plan because if they get their way there will be no Jews.”
More fully, Christian apologist David Wood, Ph.D., who specializes in debating Muslims, sarcastically posted: “Those Jews should go back to Isra- . . . Oops. Um. I mean, they should go back to all the Muslim countries they were kicked out of so that . . . Okay, strike that. They should go to all the Western nations where protestors are calling for their extermination!
Exactly!
More chillingly, Leeor Rose said: “They might show their true colours and follow through with what the Mufti planned from the very beginning.” (The post was accompanied by a photo of Haj Amin Al-Husseini, the Grand Mufti of Jerusalem who instigated the massacre of Jews in Hebron in 1929, sitting with Adolph Hitler.)
This was affirmed by Todd Hudnall, who wrote: “From my understanding, for many who say this it means the same thing Haman and Hitler intended, annihilation of the Jewish people.”
Yes, Alexander McKnight noted, “In the sea would be their honest answer.” Or, more concisely still, by Cheeky Tommy, “To hell.”
This sounds very much like the sentiments of some of the Arab leaders who emphatically rejected the UN’s 1947 Partition Plan, just as they had previously rejected the Peel Commission’s plan in 1937.
To quote Haj Amin Al-Husseini in 1936, “There is no place in Palestine for two races. The Jews left Palestine 2,000 years ago, let them go to other parts of the world, where there are wide vacant places.”
Eleven years later, on October 11, 1947 and responding to the UN plan, Azzam Pasha, Secretary-General of the Arab League, said: “It will be a war of annihilation. It will be a momentous massacre in history that will be talked about like the massacres of the Mongols or the Crusades.”
As explained by Daniel Pipes, summarizing the important book Palestine Betrayed by the respected historian Efraim Karsh, “Far from being the hapless victims of a predatory Zionist assault, it was Palestinian Arab leaders who, from the early 1920s onward, and very much against the wishes of their own constituents, launched a relentless campaign to obliterate the Jewish national revival which culminated in the violent attempt to abort the U.N. partition resolution.”
Yes, “Palestine Betrayed reframes today’s Arab–Israeli debate by putting it into its proper historical context. Proving that for 90 years the Palestinian political elite has opted to reject ‘the Jewish national revival and [insisted on] the need for its violent destruction,’ Karsh correctly concludes that the conflict will end only when the Palestinians give up on their ‘genocidal hopes.’”
Unfortunately, those genocidal hopes are burning hotter than ever. And Israel, once again engaged in an existential battle with its surrounding enemies, is reminded that it has enemies around the world, all of whom want to see and end to the Jewish state.
Meanwhile, in the UK, London’s Metropolitan Police have ruled that chanting, “From the river to the sea . . .” is not an arrestable offense. Given the trauma this must certainly cause for the UK’s Jewish residents, especially in light of the immense crowds of protesters, numbering as many as 100,000, this is quite disheartening.
It is also quite ironic, given that UK police have arrested street preachers for making LGBTQ+ identified individuals feel uncomfortable because of their religious beliefs. But calling publicly for the extermination of Israel is not arrestable.
One of my American colleagues who does humanitarian work in Israel told me that, for the first time, he has had to block dozens of people at a time for posting antisemitic comments on his social media pages. And, as if to remind us that this wretched disease of irrational Jew-hatred is not going away, one comment on my X feed said this: “Antichrist Jews are not America’s responsibility! Do you fools understand that the rabbis want America to fall? They have an interest in bringing down America?”
And lest you think that it’s only Islamic extremists and wacky Jew haters who see no place for a Jewish state, the Wall Street Journal had this to say last year: “Perhaps you thought Israel had long ago established its right to exist as a Jewish state. Guess again. Hamas, Hezbollah and Iran want to eliminate Israel as we know it, but who would have thought they’d find allies in Amnesty International?”
Yes, as the Amnesty International report stated in summary, “Israel has established and maintained an institutionalized regime of oppression and domination of the Palestinian population for the benefit of Jewish Israelis—wherever it has exercised control over Palestinians’ lives since 1948.”
Note carefully those words: since 1948. Nation of Israel, there is no place for you!
I’m aware, of course, that there are plenty of peace-loving, fair-minded Christians, Muslims, and Jews who still hope for a two-state solution or the like. And there are people from all backgrounds who grieve over the suffering and death of thousands of Israeli and Palestinian civilians. I grieve alongside each of them.
But they are not the ones chanting, “From the river to the sea,” and those are the people I’m addressing here.
So, to ask again, where would you like the Jewish people to go, despite more than two thousand years of connection to the Land?
On second thought, I’d rather not know. Any answer will not be good.
It’s a call for a one-state solution. . . the one with no Israel on the map – just the way that ugly bitch Tlaib fantasies about.
The evil bitch should’ve never have been let into our borders. But the “diversity-is-our-strength” idiots decided to believe their own bullshit.
Just not all of it.
(Hence you won’t find these 3rd world refuse in Martha’s Vineyard or Kennebunkport. They find that our neighborhoods seem to suffice.)
Guess who helped Ilhan Omar invade America? The Lutheran Immigration and Refugee Service.
ALL of the major Christian churches (Catholic, Methodist, Baptist, Episcopalian, etc.) and major Jewish organizations are receiving millions upon millions of tax-payer dollars from the government to help destroy America through illegal and un-selective, unvetted, immigration.
Judeo-Christian altruism and self-sacrifice are destroying America, “the meek shall inherit the earth”, “love your enemy”. “turn the other cheek”. “love your Muslim neighbor as you love yourself”, “you are your Muslim brother’s keeper”.
“After fleeing my home country of Somalia I lived in a refugee camp in Kenya for four years before seeking hope and opportunity in the United States, and it was thanks to the support of LIRS [Lutheran Immigration and Refugee Service] that I and my family found a home in the United States,” the Democratic lawmaker said.
Omar is just one of the lawmakers, religious leaders and former refugees who stressed the importance of restoring the United States’ long-standing commitment to resettling refugees Thursday on a virtual panel hosted by LIRS, one of nine agencies contracted with the U.S. government to do resettlement work.”
“Rep. Ilhan Omar, others encourage US to rebuild refugee resettlement ahead of World Refugee Day”
Learn the difference between greed and altruism, dumbass.
You wrote it yourself, the corrupt Christian organizations which import hordes of scummy foreigners from the world’s worst shit holes do it for government lucre, not out of altruism.
Exactly right, Jeff. These destructive organizations are motivated by what they consider rational self-interest. Therein lies the flaw in Rand’s (and TFX’S) argument: who decides what is “rational?”
“The concept of objectivity contains the reason why the question “Who decides what is right or wrong?” is wrong. Nobody “decides.” Nature does not decide—it merely is; man does not decide, in issues of knowledge, he merely observes that which is. When it comes to applying his knowledge, man decides what he chooses to do, according to what he has learned, remembering that the basic principle of rational action in all aspects of human existence, is: “Nature, to be commanded, must be obeyed.” This means that man does not create reality and can achieve his values only by making his decisions consonant with the facts of reality.” – Ayn Rand
The “rational” is that which is consonant with the facts of reality. If a country chooses to prosper then STEALING the EARNED income of its citizens to fund un-selective, unvetted, immigration is IRRATIONAL, self-destructive, self-sacrificial, self-immolating. And that is the opposite of RATIONAL SELF-INTEREST.
Perhaps you should write to the Congressmen who fund Lutheran Immigration and Refugee Services and Catholic Charities and Obama who enabled the invasion of the Somalians. But you won’t. I keep giving you the phone numbers to call these organizations and complain. But you never call anyone do you. You want everyone else to do the heavy lifting. I have always said your are a fraud.
It’s just so much easier to type a comment to bash Christianity and Christians. Because that is how thin your thinking on anything ever goes.
It’s really up to the people of Minneapolis who elected this America Hating harridan to get rid of her.
Ilhan Elmi-Omar will be re-elected, and re- re- elected until she’s 138 years old, because those who voted for her are fellow America-and-Jew (and Christian)-hating Muslims who have colonized Minneapolis and other parts of Minnesota. And their numbers are swelling, due to their having swarms of children, unrestricted and unvetted immigration policies, and dissolution of our Southern borders.
Or Congress comes to it’s senses and kicks Omar and Trashida Tlaib out. And we actually start deporting all Muslims who came here under false pretenses when the Muslim traitor was in the White House.
Send her back. She openly broke immigration law. Dump the dump.
It makes me wonder…..Is Tlaib (and brother lover Omar for that matter) a proper, pious muslima, or is she sporting a cl1t0ris like some sort of western hoe?
Inbred Omar is not only sporting a clit, she has a white lover. She would be stoned to death in Ethiopia. She should be stoned here.
The only true chant about Palestinian freedom is ‘Palestine Must Be Free from Hamas and Hezbollah”. This other chanting is really about seeking chanting as a fashion accessory for virtue protagonists who who have rolled over in submission to the meme of Hamas style hatred of the Jewish people.
Efraim Karsh has always been in love with the Arabs and pines after their love and approval–notwithstanding his position at BESA. Karsh, like a lot of Jews, needs to toughen-up and stop claiming that Muslim leaders dont reflect the Muslim masses. .
That’s the dumbest and gayest comment I’ve ever read. Do you have a brain tumor or are you related to Alzheimer Joe?
Whoever down voted me blows Alzheimer Joe for spare change and crack.
You’ve never heard of Karsh (so have never read any of his books) or Begin-Sadat and have no idea how love sick and delusional so many of my tribe have become. You’re too uninformed and angry to even see how my comment dovetails with the syndrome afflicting Isaac Herzog–who you had never heard of before–yet called him a variety of names.
You’re a poser and a blowhard. You destroyed your family and you’ll never see them again. You’re a convicted, violent criminal. You’re a permanent boarder w/o a pot to piss in. Your anger has the better of you and you’ll see the inside of a cell–yet again–sooner than later.
Please don’t consider a
morally vacuous,
man-made two state solution as viable. The two state solution is simply the enemy’s marketing strategy, a euphemism for destruction of Israel.
Israel is the only country in the world whose borders are defined in the Torah, by God.
Consider this: Arabs come from Arabia. That’s why they’re called Arabs.
How many people are aware of this connection?
Before Islam, in biblical times, ‘Aravim’ ( ‘Arabs‘ in hebrew), lived to the west (‘ma’arav’ in hebrew) of the promised land.
Palestine is a word whose root is of latin origin. It is a word associated with the brutal Roman conquest of Israel. There was a massive national slaughter, the ’ blood of the slain gushing through the streets. And the conquering Romans renamed the sacred land it had profaned, Palestine.
This word, Palestine, no matter what its etymology, reeks of barbarism and destruction. Sound familiar?
This word, Palestine,
post-dates the land of Israel and pre-dates the origin of Islam.
Question:
Why do Arabs, whose original geographic identity has been erased because of the man-made creation of nine synonymous nations in Arabia, and who are now known globally as Muslims, and whose ideology is to conquer the world, market themselves as Palestinian, or support man-made Palestine, a non-arabic, pre-Islam, Roman conquest barbarism word that they cannot even pronounce, for there is no ‘p’ in Palestine?
Answer:
October 7th and the ensuing pathetic outpouring of global hatred towards every living Jew in Israel and around the world.
Great comment. 🙂 The sand monkey Arabs lived to the East of the Promised Land, though. The West is the Philistines and the Mediterranean Sea.
Not all Arabs are Muslims, there are Arab Christians, as well as Arab groups of Druze and Baháʼís.
Those considered Christian Arabs are, more accurately, Arabized Christians. Most are actually not of Arab ethnicity, as few Christians dwelt in Arabia during Muhammed’s time. However, most of them identify as Arabs, having lived among them, albeit as dhimmis, for centuries.
So what? Who cares?
I don’t care what they call themselves as long as they stay the F out of my country. Nazi muslims are not wanted in the U.S.
Because there is no ‘p’ in arabic
Yeah, Paleosimians and other sand monkeys can’t even pronounce the “P” unless they speak English, which few of them are skilled enough to do.
I lived in Egypt in the 1970’s where everyone drank Bebsi Cola.
My no ‘p’ in arabic comment is in reference to my comment that is awaiting moderation and hasn’t been printed yet.
What innocent Paleosimian civilians? Hamas is comprised of civilians. The Paleosimians elected Hamas. Civilians danced in the streets and handed out candy after Hamas invaded Israel and chopped the heads off babies.
FUCK all Paleosimians. NONE of them are innocent or deserve empathy. They ALL deserve to die.
Force them into Egypt and Jordan. Genocide would be better but that can’t happen.
I wish it were that easy to force them all into Egypt and Jordan, as neither country wants them. The threat of cutting off all U.S. aid to both countries would probably help ,achieve this obviously sensible goal, but the current administration, which epitomizes stupidity and incompetence, would never even consider such a measure. BTW: can anyone tell me how we benefit from giving Jordan American aid?
Well, you live up to your screen name. 🙂 That was common sense, not that this corrupt and evil administration has any.
Clueless people do not have answers; they have easy to remember chants. No thinking required.
They want to finish Hitler’s work. The uneducated criminals energized by MSNBC commentator Al Sharpton during the Crown Heights Pogrom who chanted “Hitler should have finished the job!” while Sharpton railed against “diamond merchants” (any hint whom he referred to?) were simply less educated in prevarication than wokelings on campuses, in Hollywood and at The New York Times.
The One State Solution is simply a Leftist & Islamofascist euphemism for The Final Solution.
History has been here before.
There will never be a 2-state solution because ALL OF ISRAEL, including GAZA belongs to GOD’S CHOSEN PEOPLE, the Jews. With that being said, Muslims and anti-Jewish/Israel supporters, have ALREADY LOST. READ THE BIBLE AND LEARN THAT GOD NEVER CHANGES. HIS WORD NEVER CHANGES. GOD PROMISED THE JEWS ISRAEL, AND HE GAVE THEM ISRAEL IN 1948.
Israel will survive WITH GOD’S HELP and with the help of TRUE Christians praying for them daily……………….ALWAYS.
So all these evil people who hate Israel/Jews, are just wasting money and time to fight a LOST CAUSE. Murdering innocent Jews and others will only send their soul to HELL, which is where Satan wants them anyway. VERY SAD that certain people cannot see GOD’S WISDOM and HIS common sense. HEY MUSLIMS: you think you know how to TORTURE PEOPLE? Wait until you get to Satan’s abode…………………..WOW. You will WISH that you were not lied to by the pedo Mohammad.
MARANATHA AND GOD BLESS ISRAEL AND HIS JEWISH NATION, also MY BROTHERS AND SISTERS.
There already is a “Palestinian” state. It’s called Jordan.. But Jordan, which is 70 per cent “Palestinian,” doesn’t want any more of them.
Your (and others’) misinterpretation of the Bible–largely thanks to the Freemason and Rothschild lackey Cyrus Scofield–is leading the world into global destruction. The Jews are no longer God’s Chosen People, as they rejected God’s Son. (Do you think that He was kidding when he said “You will not have eternal life unless you eat my flesh and drink my blood”? Or do think the Evangelists forgot to add an asterisk: “except for the Jews”?) And just to make your head explode completely, the Catholic Church, which was founded by Jesus Christ in 33AD, is the new Israel, not a piece of land.
A tongue in cheek comment…move all Israelis to the US.
And all Palestinians and their supporters from the US to “Palestine”. Let them run the area as the see fit.
Win Win.
The Palestinians are kept in chains not by Israel, but by their own leaders whom they voted for. If you want to blame people, blame your own leaders who don’t care about you, and use you as their. human shields in military warfare to keep the IDF from attacking military targets who use women and children as a shield, knowing that Israel does not want to kill women and children. Where is the decency…..Is there any in these people???????
My understanding is their holy book is riddled with this sort of “decency”.