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Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan doesn’t much like the United States or Europe, and passionately hates Israel, and so it’s not particularly surprising when he looks forward with happy anticipation to the collapse of Western civilization. What is a trifle surprising is that despite Erdogan’s ever-lengthening record of bellicosity toward and contempt for the West, as well as his re-Islamization of Turkey, the Turkish Republic remains in NATO and continues to be regarded in Washington as a reliable ally. Given the unreality and refusal to face facts that characterizes official Washington, however, even that is worth only the brief raising of one eyebrow. Erdogan has made quite clear which side he is on. The “experts” in Washington are willfully blind.
Türkiye Today reported Tuesday that Erdogan stepped out in Ankara to speak at the 7th Religious Council, and took the opportunity to deliver to the world his view of
“the current state of Islamic civilization.” No doubt to the delight of the attendees, Erdogan was optimistic about the looming final victory of Islam over its enemy for fourteen centuries, the West: “The West’s progress,” said the Turkish president, “built on blood, tears, massacres, and exploitation, has temporarily overtaken the human-centered civilization of the East. A day will come when this era of progress, which excludes the sacred and humanity, will close. As Western civilization collapses with a great clamor, our human-centered and divinely inspired civilization will rise again, stronger than ever.”
Note the projection. Erdogan says that Western civilization was “built on blood, tears, massacres, and exploitation,” but as TheHistory of Jihad illustrates in abundance, that is actually true of Islamic civilization, which he terms “human-centered and divinely inspired.” In fact, for centuries, Europeans lived in constant fear of jihad warriors who had distinguished themselves for nothing more than their bloodlust. The existential threat that they posed to Europe was so well known that it was taken for granted everywhere.
Only in the last century or so has the West collectively lost its historical memory, and decided not only to embrace, but to stake its future upon the unexamined and demonstrably false dogma that Islam is a religion of peace that is entirely compatible with Western secular societies. Erdogan, by contrast, is well aware of the history of Islam and the West, and back in 2018, predicted a renewed conflict between the two. When the Austrian government closed some Turkish mosques in what it said was a crackdown on “political Islam,” Erdogan declared: “These measures taken by the Austrian prime minister are, I fear, leading the world toward a war between the cross and the crescent.”
Erdogan said he had “fear” that such a conflict would come about, but make no mistake: he is itching for such a war. He is the only one talking about it. Certainly the desiccated leftist internationalists who lead Western Europe are horrified at such a prospect, and have already proven that they find no measure of appeasement and accommodation too low to stoop in order to head it off. But Erdogan is unlikely to be satisfied with anything but full surrender. After all, in the case he was complaining about in 2018, Austria had shut down only seven mosques. There are many more in Austria. It shut them down for preaching political Islam, i.e., the idea that Sharia is the only legitimate form of government for Austria and the world.
That was enough for Erdogan to threaten jihad. So he was essentially saying that Austria, and Europe in general, must accept slow Islamization or fast Islamization. Either Europe allowed imams to preach Sharia and Islamic supremacism, leading to the slow Islamization of the continent, or it wouldface a jihad war aiming at conquering and Islamizing the continent. The choice remains: surrender or be forcibly subjugated.
In his speech in Ankara Tuesday, he also said: “There is a clear, systematic, and more organized assault against the values that define us and our essence. The perpetrators of massacres in Palestine, Gaza, and other Islamic lands, who seek to exterminate Muslims, are evident. While covert and insidious enemies employ every means, the war in recent times is increasingly waged through social media.” He knows that the way to gain traction with the West’s pusillanimous contemporary leaders is to play the victim, and so he is earnestly claiming victimhood status not just for the Palestinian Arabs, but for all Muslims. After striking this most fetching of poses, he will likely encounter no difficulty in getting Western European leaders to do his bidding.
Those who see the situation more clearly, however, know that Erdogan’s belligerent words about the West’s innocent collapse should be taken with the utmost seriousness, and result in a long-overdue realignment of our global alliances. Will that be on the agenda for the incoming administration? We can hope.
The nation of Turkey has had it’s own history and share of violence so it’s in no position to be preaching to others.
NATO and the UN(Useless Nations)isa full of Useful Idiots like this one more reasons to Kick both out of America Period
If only it was due to idiocy. That would make them easier to defeat. No, it’s a clash between calculating evil and passive wishful thinking. We are the idiots.
Has Turkey acknowledged the Armenian genocide yet?
No, and in fact acknowledging it is a criminal offense in Turkey, which has also imprisoned more journalists than any other country. No that The New York Times, The Guardian, CNN, MSNBC, PBS, The Washington Post, BBC or NPR (National PALESTINE Radio) care
“The Young Turks” were implicated in that million-+ slaughter… still WW1 is pushed aside.
Bush set this Muslim Supremacist up with billions for Incirlick Airbase as a staging area for the Iraq War. He can’t be trusted. Many Turks are good people but when religion of Islam is injected you have The Midnight Express culture of violence. It’s a shame. Erdogan is all about himself. Never forget Armenia, and the Greeks under the Ottoman Turks. Killing and Slavery.
Cut to the chase and state the obvious truth: Turkey and the rest of the NATO members are our “allies” to the extent that we pay them to be our allies. If that were not true then they would’ve kicked us out of their countries decades ago.
Most of the them don’t like us anyway but they’ll gladly take our money.and anything else they can finagle out of us. Sadly, Americans are suckers for a sob story, lies & bullsh*t. The rest of the world takes advantage of America because of it. I don’t blame them.
Muslims are decent, when they are, in spite of their religion, not because of it.
The headline omitted the sarcastic quotation marks needed around “Ally.”
I was going to post “When mentioning Turkey – “ally” is the correct term!! They are like a LOT of our “allies” – they’ll be there when THEY need US or OUR MONEY!
Cut to the chase and state the obvious truth: Turkey and the rest of the NATO members are our “allies” to the extent that we pay them to be our allies. If that were not true then they would’ve kicked us out of their countries decades ago.
Most of the them don’t like us anyway but they’ll gladly take our money.and anything else they can finagle out of us. Sadly, Americans are suckers for a sob story, lies & bullsh*t. The rest of the world takes advantage of America because of it. I don’t blame them.
The Globalists (for a digitally-controlled one-world dictatorial government)
and the Communists (for a Marxist dictatorship of the proletariat utopia) have
seized power in Western Europe – and are using Islam as a battering ram to
destroy free and advanced Western civilization. That is why they capitulate
to an Islamic seventh century throwback like Erdogan. One only has to see
the damage done to Western Europe today from a deliberately allowed
illegal immigration tsunami of Muslims to realize that.
The Communists and Globalists have also become deeply entrenched in
America as evidenced by the rise to power of fiends like Obama, Biden and
Kamala – thwarted for now by the near miraculous election of Donald John
Trump.
Islam is totalitarian like Globalism and Communism. A showdown between
it and them for ultimate power is inevitable. But for now, they are in cahoots
and Erdogan has no worry about any reprisals from the West. Except from
Trump and America where freedom has once again prevailed.
When viewed from afar, the difference between globalism and communism is indistinguishable. Their goals are one in the same: world domination (i.e., one world government under their control.)
Ronald Reagan once said to the effect that the difference between a communist and an anti-communist is that a communist is someone who reads Marx whereas an anti-communist is someone who understand Marx. That aphorism applies to globalism as well.
RIGHT ON! My thoughts exactly.
unfortunately the west will be the author of its own demise . islam is a cancer of the brain and morally bankrupt , similar to the wests moral failures in the face of it being taken over by the cult of islam and the antisemitism that is the old canard that the jews are the cause of the worlds problems . the worlds problems are due to the rejection of the gospel . its that simple . the 7 year tribulation will eliminate any delusion that nation states are in charge . the world has been given a reprobate mind and is now under judicial judgement . prepare for worse . !!
In other words, he’s a Turk.
More like a Persian. Ruthless war lords of days gone by. Hand to hand would have been no joke. Compare that to some gamer sending a sidewinder out from FLA. to some place far away.
May we live long enough to see the Hagia Sophia reconsecrated as a Christian cathedral!
As per Google: “Turkey hosts about 20 B61 nuclear bombs at Incirlik Air Base as part of a nuclear-sharing agreement with the United States.”
Maybe the new Administration can make some adjustments to this situation.
Recep Tayyip Erdogan sounds like a real reliable ally. Why is Turkey in NATO at all?
Why is the US in NATO? NATO is an antiquated relic left over from the end of WWII. Thanks to the US Europe has been able to avoid defense spending and instead lavish their citizens with socialism. The US would be in better company if it left NATO and worked with Russia on issues of common interest. Turkey in NATO a perfect example of NATO’s uselessness from a US standpoint. The US should exit NATO Europe has never been our friend or true ally.
All good questions.
A more cogent question is: why isn’t the CIA covertly working to destabilize the Erdogan regime? They’ve certainly done it to other “troublesome” dictatorial regimes around the world. The CIA is not doing it’s job.
Ironic that the birthrate among Turks is low like Europeans, but that of the Kurds is high. It would be fun to see this putz and his followers replaced by their betters.
And what an ugly mug. If my dog looked like him I would shave its rear end and make it walk backward.
A different take would be that he is again facing rumblings from his people. He recently had a coup attempt. Maybe exposure to the west is having a “bad” effect on his throne. However a rebuilding of the church of Saint Sophia would be very nice.
He hates us but when shite hits the fan, he’s going to be crying for us to help him…. just like so many other countries that spit in our face and stab us in the back! Then when we do help them, mostly for humanitarian reasons, they then say, “That’s all you’re going to give us?”
Let’s the list of countries that help us in our time of need, like 9-11, hurricanes, tornados, floods and their territories used to attack our Interests, financial and militarily.
ERDOGAN, A DICTATOR OF THE WORST KIND, IS UNTRUSTWORTHY! But then again, so was Obama and John Brennan who retreated from the world to allow their Communist Comrades and Muslim Brothers to fill the void. Look at the world today for their Mission Accomplished!
ONLY HOURS after Trump’s victory, the World was calling him, wanting to meet with him, and now meeting with him… to say UNCLE, but no worries because Obama is still plotting with his conspirators, mainly Bill Clinton who is using his insider contacts, on more coup attempts against a sitting President!
The World’s Spotlight is on Trump and Obama can’t stand it because he created the conditions for our DOWNFALL so he could be a Hero to Billions while only hated by millions! His Legacy tarnished forever by demanding Blacks vote for a Black and LOSING PLUS TURNING MLK’S DREAM INTO HIS WORST NIGHTMARE!
It’s a shame Kamala didn’t win, if the world was run by women there would be no wars, just countries refusing to speak to each other and never ever forgiving each other.
WOW!! How woefully naive are you about us. Women can be the most deceptive, duplicitous, conniving, back-stabling and calculating while smiling in your face. And this does not include our propensity for sometimes radical emotional vacillations.
We are, however, great as spies because seduction seems a part of our DNA and our intuitive assessments, often remiss of rational evidence that men focus on, works extremely well.
Let a gorgeous, intelligent woman trained as a spy infiltrate Erdogen’s retinue and over time he will become enchanted by the totally covered, yet enticing way she interacts…and once he indulges his desires, this trained honey pot will obtain everything needed to keep this hateful man from greater power and minimize any influence for him outside of Türkiye!!!
Sorry Gabe, we don,t have 2 yrs to train a spy and infiltrate another gov.. High speed rounds work the best. Not like our IC does not do it.
Apparently, you have little understanding about the readiness of Mossad agents…oops!
“the current state of Islamic civilization.”
Sorry, isn’t Islamic civilization an oxymoron?
I don’t know but it sounds like Erdogan may be rattling his sabers a bit too much. But dictators do that from time to time if for nothing else, to warn his subjects how powerful he is, although that tactic is seldom a lasting strategy.
About as oxymoronic as a monkey with a calculus text book.
Or maybe the fish and his bicycle.
Ask an Armenian about Turkey’s “human centered civilization”. Strategic importance notwithstanding, Turkey would never have been allowed into NATO in 1949 (and at least than it made the pretense of being a secular state). No one except readers of The Economist (mostly people trapped in airport terminals) is impressed by Recip Erdogan and his shitty regime.
Erdogan Looks Forward to West’s Collapse
Erdogan should ask those who perished under the Saudis invasion of Sept 11 for their definition of ‘civilization’.
Or those gang raped by Muslims in Europe.
Erdogan’s contribution to civilization has been to desecrate the Hagia Sophia, a Chrsitian basilica erected by Christian sovereigns Justinian and Theodora.
Can the world even be a better place until we remove the Muslim dictators from their ‘thrones’???
Me thinks not!
The stupid Turk has got it all backwards.
the TURKS, or Islam?!?!?
Good point. Is there a moderate muslim? Sure, he is the 1 holding you down while the radical does his thing. Spare me! Moderate.
Given the history of slaughter and slavery that were the building blocks of the Ottoman Empire it is absolutely astonishing that a Turkish leader could say anything so ridiculous and hypocritical. And the Turks would never have given up the slavery part were it not for the pressure from the Western World.
Slavery in the Islamic world persists – it’s just not as overt as it was.
Guess he’s hopeful we don’t know about the Armenian genocide.
Guess he forgot how Constantinople became Istanbul.
Guess he wants us to pretend October 7, 2023 didn’t happen.
Guess he never heard of what happened on September 1, 2004 in Beslan Russia
Guess he never heard of the islamic invation of Spain.
Guess he is the fum duck we all know he is. In reality I am sure he is well aware of those ISIS that love to cut off heads, are just a few hundred miles away from him and so he has to appease them.
Without the USA, NATO is a bunch of whining Socialist/Islamic/Welfare states that can’t provide for their own ‘collective’ defense, so they must rely on the USA for protection. That time should come to an end on Jan. 21, 2025. They either pay 100% of their fair share immediately or 100% protect themselves immediately. The Deep State has allowed the world to reap immense rewards from the US protecting them and dictating to the bad actors. Now it’s time to put the USA #1 on the list.
If he moves quickly, President Biden could hand Incirlik Air Base over to the jihadists. They could economize by limiting maintenance to but a fraction of the runway since powered hang gliders require a comparatively short takeoff roll. He could delegate the handover ceremony to former President Barack Obama who from the air base might just be able to hear the minarets’ call to prayer, “one of the prettiest sounds on earth at sunset,” in his words.
No, Turkey needs to have its NATO card confiscated and join ranks with Iran, Russia, China, and North Korea. The group’s protocol officers would have to be on their toes, however. Formal dinners among the five could not involve President Erdogan seated next to President Putin. Think about it–should the spirits flow and the topic of Chechnya arise, fisticuffs between the two might just break out. Then, what?
Does Mr Erdogan realise how difficult he is making it for Rashida Tlaib to get to be President in 28?
What in hell was NATO THINKING bringing Turkey in?
Just basic knowledge of Islam would have said this was ridiculous.
Thank God for common sense CLARITY brought to us by ROBERT SPENCER!
I went to Turkey before Erdogan was president. Traveled with a Jewish friend and stayed in a small hotel on the Turkish side of the Bosporus. The Turks were more than friendly, absolutely loved seeing Americans. We hired a guide who had a car and traveled to several smaller cities, saw fascinating ruins with interesting history. Bought some rugs and met wonderful people. One woman who sold me a necklace looked into my eyes and we both laughed about our different clothes. We would have been friends if we lived in the same place.
I’ve traveled to many countries and Turkey was my favorite. Terrible to see what was recently a friendly country becoming so hostile. Erdogan is a thug.
Megalomanic Islamo Fascist Erdogan may think he will be the next Caliph. In reality Turkey is more fragile state than Syria.. 25% of Turkey about 20+ million are Kurds. And about the same number of Alevis which are counted in Turkey’s census. Basically half of the population is not part of ruling Sunni class. Plus Turks like the Europeans are not having as many children. On the other hand Kurds having much larger families than The Turks.
Watch crazy Erdoğan rolling into Syria. under the guise of keeping the peace. If he he does it would be the beginning mark of region wide war. If Erdoğan thinks he will be winning such a war he’s dumber than pile of rocks. Watch Erdoğan next move
Ataturk secularized Turkey. That is all over with and the great Turks my Uncle fought beside in Korea in 1952 are NOT the same people. That they are part of NATO is jaw dropping.
We need to bring home all troops from Europe and Decalre War on Mexico .
Hey Erdogan , you got your ass kicked by filthy ignorant arabs , and became muslim pedophiles … Muhammed was a littie boy raping peasant and murderer , nothng more . allah is nothing but a stupid thought by millions of morons , thinging in heaven you will receive 72 virgins …
Ha… ha … ha … I beleive if there is a heaven , IT IS SPIRITUAL , NOT PHYSICAL …
YOU STUPID FUCCING MUSLIM TRASH
MOHAMMED THE PEOPHILE IS YOUR PROPHET … HA … HA … HA …
MOERATION IS CENSORSHIP …SHIIIIT FRONT PAGE
Considering the lands from Istanbul all the way across to Kabul were populated by Christians, Jews, Buddhists, Hindus and many other small Religious Sects until islamic warriors slaughtered beheaded and forcibly converted everybody to islamic nonsense and this moron speaks about the nature of evil from The West.
Whats the word in Turkish or Arabic for hypocrisy.
NATO came up alongside The Berlin Wall so how come it didn’t come down alongside The Berlin Wall.
If NATO stands for The North Atlantic then how come Turkey is in NATO when its nowhere near the Atlantic?.
Not trick questions.