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The Hamas victory parade on Thursday with the coffins of four people they had murdered — an elderly man, someone whom they claimed to be the mother of two young children, and those two children, one of whom was nine months old — has appalled and disgusted the world. Even the Grand Muftis of Saudi Arabia and Dubai have reportedly been moved to issue denunciations of Hamas’ behavior, and those denunciations have in turn jump-started the West’s never-ending quest for that most elusive of entities, which despite never actually having been seen is the hope of numerous Europeans and North Americans for a peaceful future: moderate Islam.
The news came in X posts that have not been substantiated, although no denials have been issued, either. [UPDATE: Now the denials have indeed come.] The Grand Mufti of Saudi Arabia, Sheikh Abdulaziz al-Sheikh, said: “What we saw today in Gaza is a disgrace to Islam, an act of blasphemy against Allah.” The take of the Grand Mufti of Dubai, Ahmed al-Haddad, was similar. He declared: “Hamas has brought shame to Islam on a level never seen before.” These statements spread far and wide; al-Haddad’s got 1.3 million views, and al-Sheikh’s 208,800.
Many people took the statements as a hopeful sign. Uri Kurlianchik, who describes himself as “Jewish, Zionist, Soviet, Israeli, Geek, Author, Hiker, Eclectic, Nocturnal, Trilingual, Listener, Observer, Friendly” and has over 50,000 followers on X, posted the two statements and wrote: “Real Arabs are starting to speak up. Never thought I’d see the day!”
Maybe he still hasn’t. One reader responded: “Sorry. If yesterday ‘disturbed them’, but not the 504 days before, color me unimpressed.” Indeed. Hamas committed numerous astounding atrocities on Oct. 7, 2023, as it murdered 1,200 Israelis, and the Grand Muftis were notably silent about that.
Nevertheless, their words took in others as well. The renowned historian Simon Sebag Montefiore wrote that “these rulings are appreciated,” although he later deleted the post, and with good reason. Note that both Muftis did not speak about the evil done to Hamas’ Israeli victims, but to the “disgrace” and “shame” that Hamas’ actions brought to Islam. They were not worried about moral evil, but about Islam’s image. For the Muftis, taking them by the word of their reported statements, the only “disgrace to Islam” and “shame to Islam” in Hamas’ celebration was in the fact that many people saw it and thought ill of Islam as a result.
On that level, the statements of the Grand Muftis are absolutely true. However, many assume, without a trace of evidence, that they’re saying that Hamas’ acts were un-Islamic. This is in line with the now two-decade-long quest in the West for moderate Muslims, the supposedly mainstream Muslims, as opposed to the “extremists.” These moderates reject terrorism, will never wage jihad, and are perfectly happy to coexist as equals with non-Muslims in a secular state on an indefinite basis.
There is a great deal of confusion about this issue, for it is increasingly easy for Westerners to look around them and see Muslims who are not waging jihad and seem to be coexisting just fine. The problem such Muslims have is that they are not, as many in the West assume, following an understanding of Islam that differs from that of groups such as Hamas, ISIS and al-Qaeda. There is no moderate Islamic theology, or moderate Islamic school of Islamic law. These moderates choose to ignore the Qur’an’s teachings of conquest and subjugation of unbelievers, but that doesn’t mean those teachings don’t exist.
And the fact that they do exist casts the Muftis’ statements in a vastly different light from how many people have taken them. There was nothing un-Islamic about what Hamas did as it returned the coffins that were purportedly those of the four hostages, and indeed, the Muftis didn’t say that there was. The unbelievers are “the most vile of created beings” (Qur’an 98:6) and Muslims are directed to “strike terror” in them (Qur’an 8:60). How is what Hamas did not consonant with that?
The problem with the West’s endless quest to find moderate Muslims who reject all such ugly and incendiary teachings is that it is doomed to founder on the fact that such teachings can be found in Islam’s core texts and central theological expositions. The moderates are therefore unlikely in the extreme ever to come riding in to save the day. We’d be better off looking at the situation realistically and coming up with a strategy that deals with the real problem, instead of continuing to rely upon the fantasy-based policymaking that has dominated the thinking on this issue since 9/11 and before.
Could the treatment of the Bibas family herald such a return to reality? Maybe. But what the Grand Muftis are actually doing, if the statements attributed to them are accurate, are trying to make sure that return to reality doesn’t happen.
Uri Kurlianchik could describe himself with only one word: “dork.” Of course, “dhimmie” works equally well. Don’t hike anywhere me, dork.
And we all know the mufftis jerk it to all of Hamas’s cowardly atrocities no matter how many fake denunciations “woke” trolls propagate on social media.
And yes, all the muff haters disapprove of is the bad PR that Islam got. The only Jewish babies and toddlers they want on Earth are the ones murdered by their fellow islamopithecines.
Just another “TAQQIYA” sunrise . . .
Cute reference.
Western Nations should realize and REFUSE to accept islam in their Nations! There’s no such thing as being a “little pregnant” nor is there such a thing as a “moderate muslim”! Now there may be muslims who are not the insane vest wearing variety, but given the choice of defending islam or sanity – islam wins!
It’s an ideology build on DOMINANCE! World DOMINANCE and, just as sadly, FEMALE DOMINANCE! What muslim women are subjected to would land most people in prison for abuse in a civilized society!
These “condemnations” were not for the horrific murders! They’re ok with the murders – just don’t parade the coffins!
Q: At a crossroads, a $100 bill lies on the ground. To the north Santa Claus is standing to the south is the Easter Bunny, to the west is a moderate Muslim and to the east is a jihadist terrorist. Who reaches for the $100 bill first?
A: The jihadi terrorist of course. The others are all mythical creatures.
Budda Bing! 🎉🍻
Bill & Hillary are on board a sinking ship.
[Q] Who gets saved?
[A] The United States
Also very funny!
I laughed at that one!
Here’s how we know that the X tweets are fake. If the two “Grand Mufti’s” really thought that Hamas had “brought shame to Islam” or perpetrated “a disgrace to Islam, an act of blasphemy against Allah,” they would have issued a fatwa calling for all true Muslims to enter the Jihad to destroy Hamas and all its followers. That’s how Muslims treat those who blaspheme Allah.
But they didn’t.
During the Second Intifada, a corrupt comedy emerged, which was repeated hundreds of times Hamas (AND Fatah) would commit a spectacular act of terrorism with a suicide bomber blowing up a bus, a dance club, a market or a restaurant- any place where the opportunity to kill a lot of Jews presented itself. The Palestinian Authority would then issue a statement in English piously deploring the “violence”, which the lying media led by the legacy networks and The New York Times would uncritically report. Concurrently the Palestinian news media (which Fatah and Hamas control completely) would celebrate the “martyrdom operation”, Palestinians would decorate schools with murals of exploding Israeli buses and name schools, playgrounds and community centers (actually terrorists training places) after “martyrs”. Then the Palestinian Authority (which often fails to pay its own employees for months on end) would issue check for $35,000 (probably with USAID funds) to the family of the suicide bomber. Supercilious diplomats at the European Union, the United Nations and Foggy Bottom would demand Israeli restraint and smugly atone, “the Peace Process [sic] must continue.” At this point no one, even someone as stupid or addled as Greta Thunberg (she’s not a truant, just uneducable) Joe Biden or Alexandria Ocasio Cortez REALLY thinks Palestinians and their apologists oppose terrorism and barbarity like celebrating the murders of Shiri, Ariel and Kfir Bibas.
There is no such thing as moderate Islam. Westerners fall all over this duplicity regularly out of sheer ignorance and the unwillingness to face the facts that according to Islam’s Qur’an and the dictates of their “prophet” moderation is non-existent. It is their way and only their way.
Islam has recorded history of what they do and how they do it. Read about the Ottoman Empire. Read books by Robert Spencer.
The horrendous deaths of these two young boys is nothing new for them. This is simply publicity to slightly distance themselves…until the West forgets and returns to Tic Tok.
Israel, however, better take the reins and remove every Arab from Israel. For Islam teaches duplicity as normal and the end results they seek is a worldwide Islamic Caliphate without any Jews and that is justification for ALL they do.
YOU CANNOT MOLLIFY THESE BARBARIANS. The horrors of October 7 provide ample evidence. There were babies beheaded, put in ovens to die, Has that already been forgotten?
There is ABSOLUTELY NOTHING these mullahs can say that we should allow to take priority, they lie!
This criminal coterie simply pretends until the masses are quieted, turns back from view and gleefully plans their next murderous spree.
If Israel continues moving multiple steps behind this ever-widening evil and continues the leftist delusion of acquiescence as a solution, then may G-d Almighty have mercy upon us because Islam will never relent unless bombed into oblivion!
If the Muslim clerics have made any announcement at all, they will have done it because what happened to the Bibas family has caused more widespread disgust than your average terrorist atrocity. The solution is to practice “divide and rule” – say something that will make all those who are unaware of the truth hasten to bury their heads back in the sand, so that only those who cannot be reassured remain, and are exposed as Islamophobes.
The ancient Semitic struggle of My God versus Your God is at the root of millions of atrocities all over the world! One wonder why God, the Old Testament scourge gave direct instructions to people to kill one another! The world is told over and over again that moderate Muslims are the majority, but such a majority has never been able to control or stop jihadists, who, it is explained, have misunderstood the true peaceful nature of Islam.
The people who are identifying Islam with terrorism are not Ant-Islam or Non-Muslims. They are Islamic Jihadis, who ascribe their actions to Jihad and Islam on a routine basis! After the horrible deeds of October 7 2023, Hamas men were seen and heard in the video they themselves circulated, shouting Taqdeer: that it was ordained and predetermined by Allah! How sad, and inhuman to believe that all the fighting and killing Jews and other Kefir’s, destroying and terrorizing them, are all considered to be a great, legitimate duty in Islam; actions that are devout Muslims’ offerings to God!
My mother’s ELCA (Lutheran) church offers multi-week classes on the beauty and wonderment of islam.
Yes. That “religion.” The one that will kill you in the name of “religion.”
Yet; islam is not a religion. It is a political belief.
There is an ELCA near us in Middle TN. I have enough trouble trying to find an Episcopal Church that doesn’t “cotton” to so many weird beliefs at this point.
Episcopal Churches are worse than ELCA.
We attend a non-denominational church. While we do not agree with all of their beliefs, we find them far better than any “organized” church.